Amazing Amy Is A Gift That Keeps On Giving

She Speaks On Angelina, The Sony Hack & Paying Women Less Money Than Men


As you may have heard, Sony exec Amazing Amy Pascal recently stepped down from her position at the company after the infamous Sony Pictures Entertainment hack. In a new interview with Tina Brown at the Women In The World San Francisco event, she gives some more information on the leak and specifically Angelina Jolie.

Did Angelina take kindly to her leaked emails?

"The first person I talked to was Angie after that email," Pascal, 56, spilled of the star, who was the subject of an argument between Pascal and producer Scott Rudin. "Everybody understood because we all live in this weird thing together called Hollywood. If we all actually were nice, it wouldn't work."

How she dealt with this mess:

"I ran this company and I had to worry about everybody who was really scared," she said. "People were really scared, all of their social security was out there. People worried about their passports, people were worried about all kinds of things. But nagging in the back of my mind, and I kept calling, going, 'They don’t have our emails, right? Tell me they don't have our emails.' 'No, no, no, no!' Well, then they did. That was a bad moment because you know what you write in emails."

"As a woman, I figured that what I did was control how everybody felt about themselves and about me, that's how I did my job," Pascal continued. "That's kind of the way that a lot of us act as leaders and there was this horrible moment when I realized there was absolutely nothing at all that I could do about whether I'd hurt people, whether I’d betrayed people, whether I'd said things that I didn't mean. I couldn’t protect anyone -- not their feelings, not what they thought of me. It was horrible because that's how I figured I did my job for all of my life. It was also strangely freeing because all of a sudden, it was just what it was."

Amazing Amy on the pay disparity between Amy Adams and Jennifer Lawrence and that of their American Hustle costars Bradley Cooper, Christian Bale, and Jeremy Renner:

"I run a business," she said. "[If] people want to work for less money, I'll pay them less money. I don't call them up and go, 'Can I give you some more?' cause that's not what you do when you run a business. The truth is, what women have to do is not work for less money. They have to walk away. People shouldn't be so grateful for jobs... People should know what they're worth and say no."