rosie o'donnell vs. native twitter activists

February 7th, 2015, 01:06 am

rosie o'donnell vs. native twitter activists

it all started when native activist lauren chief elk found out eve ensler was going to be on the view and tweeted this to rosie:

Eve Ensler will be on @TheView today. Can @rosieperezbklyn & @Rosie please ask detail ?s about why people are still mass boycotting OBR/VDay
— Lauren Chief Elk (@ChiefElk) February 5, 2015

rosie responded:

@ChiefElk - no - cause U r one person - one -
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

@ChiefElk - cyber bully U - chief ... Go make UR contribution to the worlds suffering - let me know how it goes - peace to UR distorted view
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

people point out that calling a native woman "chief" is not the swiftest move:

@ChiefElk ITS UR FREAKING TWITTER NAME - WTF
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

@aurabogado hey aura can u tell highly sensitive people looking for a fight not to have @chief in their screen name
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

and then it happens:

@Toussaint215 - here i am - racist rosie on stage with the students in my school pic.twitter.com/e1V50aBYwA
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

@jayydodd - yes here I go again pic.twitter.com/ZCj49ImW8q
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

1) Do not use a Black Child for you racist rampage. 2) You're Bold as hell RT @Rosie: @jayydodd - yes here I go again pic.twitter.com/pXbDbhSZI1
— *black boy emoji* (@jayydodd) February 5, 2015

@jayydodd - fuck u
— Rosie (@Rosie) February 5, 2015

so yeah

and lauren is a horrible person for different reasons but it doesn't excuse rosie being racist af

also what happened to the ask ro tag

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Tagged: celebrity social media, race / racism, the view (abc)

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what, they're divorcing?!? Didn't they just get married and have a kid?

Rosie O'Donnell is making a clean break -- leaving her wife AND quitting "The View" ... all in one fell swoop.
Rosie's rep confirmed she and Michelle Rounds are splitting after 2 and a half years of marriage. The couple adopted a baby girl together in 2013.
Rosie also announced next week will be her last on "The View." She just returned to the show last September -- and her departure comes amid rampant speculation that Rosie Perez would be the one exiting.
The New York Post first reported O'Donnell's departure.
ABC says it fully supports Rosie's decision to spend more time with her family, and adds she'll be coming back to "The 'View" from time to time.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/02/06/rosie-odonnell-split-separation-wife-leaving-the-view/#ixzz3R4KrLnb2

If Chief is racist to an native american, then why is she using it in her Twitter handle. So it's OK for you to call yourself Chief but not OK for someone to reply to your name? I could give two fucks about Rosie and her shitty ass but she's not a racist here. She shouldn't have replied to Lauren Chief Dumfuck but when you start slinging around that racist accusation, you best be ready to get attacked back.

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yas I was wondering if this was going to be posted. as white people/allies, we reallllly need to be open to understanding the criticisms about the causes we support. it sucks to hear that something you thought was beneficial is not all it's cut out to be, but wouldn't you rather know so that you can give your support to a cause/organization that actually does good work?

yep.

who's in your icon?

Neda from Big Brother Canada

i feel like im missing so much context

same

mte

You are. A lot of @chiefelk's tweets aren't here.

Eve Ensler wrote the vagina monologues

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Mte

yup

basically one billion rising is a dumb white feminism thing.

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I am so gonna regret asking this, but why are people boycotting Ensler's stuff? Is that actually true? (And why didn't I know that she's Dylan McDermott's adoptive mother????)

one of the issues that indigenous Canadians have with Ensler/OBR is that a couple years ago when OBR came to Canada the cause that they decided they were going to support was missing and murdered indigenous women, which is a really important issues in Canada right now. OBR has their own day of action on Feb 14th, but they didn't realise/care that Feb 14th has already been declared as a day of action for missing and murdered indigenous women for years. so OBR/Ensler ended up taking focus away from the really great work that indigenous activists have been doing in Canada for years and suddenly the attention was all on the white people who were out there doing this 'awesome thing' instead of the indigenous women who actually deal with these issues on a day to day basis. and a lot of activists tried to engage OBR/Ensler on the issue and they handled it in a really shitty way.

The woman who Rosie was arguing with on twitter wrote a tumblr post about it: http://chiefelk.tumblr.com/post/49527456060/an-open-letter-to-eve-ensler

ETA: I just went to Lauren's twitter and she posted a link to an article that sums it up pretty well: http://www.dailydot.com/politics/rosie-odonnell-eve-ensler-twitter/

Edited at 2015-02-07 07:01 am (UTC)

eeeeehhhhhhhh, the posting of the pictures to prove her lack of racism was totally shitty and not the way to handle a situation but I do think the "chief" thing A) wasn't intentional and B) literally was just using the first word in their twitter handle.

not saying it was intentional or not but why would she ignore lauren and go for chief? that's just weird

cause her twitter handle's literally chiefelk?

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I admit I am still not completely clear on the context of the boycott that she was referring (and when I first read about this I was totally ignorant to anything that's being discussed here, so maybe I shouldn't even be talking..but here I am..anyway). I admit that I barely glanced at the name, didn't click on Lauren's twitter page..nothing and had zero idea of ethnicity....Then when I went to Rosie's reply I noticed the handle and saw the "Chief" and honestly my mind when to like someone sarcastically using someone's like job title when being a smartass.....Like, if I were arguing with someone who made a big deal about always being referred to as "Doctor" so and so...I'd probably be really mocking. Though the word "Chief" is directly related to Native American culture it does actually have modern day contexts that don't (directly) relate.

That's not to say that I'm not totally wrong because I don't know how much Rosie actually knew and recognized when she engaged in the exchange...And I do think she antagonizes sometimes, is argumentatively bullheaded and takes liberties she shouldn't...ssoooo it's not to say she wouldn't but..I just didn't see it in this instance and I think it makes since that it was just nothing more than saying "Miss" or "Sir" or "Sargent"

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zyuranger

My wife said the exact same thing. She's desperate for a Girls United spin-off

lol @ using a black child to prove she's not a racist

The pictures are dumb. The chief comment is debatable. I'll never like Rosie though. She's terribly unlikable

Wasicu love to say how sad and horrible the things that happened to us were, but never put their money where their mouths are. It's almost comedic to me at this point.

mte, in white girls wearing war bonnets posts its all "LOL THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE OFFENDED ARE WHITE SJWS." no, asshole. don't steamroll over my voice.

The only issues ONTD as a whole really care about are racism towards black people and misogyny

They don't people just hide it better.

i disagree. the popular "wank" posts usually deal with sexism and anti-black racism. these tend to attract a lot of trolls/racists/devil's advocates etc

Don't confuse a post getting a lot of comments as "caring."
I could point you to posts dealing with anti blackness with many comments dismissing people who are offended.

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Ding.

I don't see a lot of homophobia here. But I agree about the rest.

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yep, and it continually pisses me off

onmyowndick

B/c confronting the reality of actual justice for the historic and on-going crimes committed against Natives in the Americas would require too much sacrifice on the part of non-Native people living in settler states. It's never going to be on the table b/c deep down no one really wants to acknowledge that they may be complicit in those crimes.

tbh I think it's twofold (at least in America):

1. Americans are taught all throughout their K-12 education that Indians are long-gone relics of the past so like, shit, why concern yourself with them any more than you would concern yourself with the Dodo Bird or Julius Caesar?

2. There's actual money involved when we do recognize American Indians today, unlike with most other minority groups. You can say Af-Am chattel slavery was terrible until you're blue in the face but it'll never cost anyone a penny. Admit that a certain group is a recognized Indian tribe and suddenly the feds owe them a chunk of change.

I have a number of friends who are Lumbee who tell me all the time that people they speak with will be super-down with their cause for federal recognition until the second they hear how much it would cost the federal government. Once they realize recognition = even a pittance of cash, suddenly it's "Oh well I mean yeah it's bad and all what happened but like lol money won't fix the past, right, best to just let it go." Like wow, not the fucking point.

That's because all the energy they use to put on an act that they care about oppressed peoples leaves them with nothing left for other people who've been invisible (read: ignored), lack real allies and do not have a strong political voice.

When we do speak, all the nastiness and everything they wish they could say to other well represented groups but are too scared to say comes out against us.

That's how I've always seen it.

Edited at 2015-02-07 09:22 pm (UTC)

Why do you think Lauren is a horrible person? I don't really know her story.

she's a bully and a plagarist http://know--your--history.tumblr.com/

also her views on rape are repugnant

... What are her views on rape?

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Oh my god, this is awful. Uuugh.

Everyone involved in this is ridiculously unlikable.

Remember when she played a mentally handicapped person and it was pretty damn offensive

Yes it had something to do with a bus if I recall.

Riding the Bus With My Sister!

That movie was hilariously bad. Secondhand embarrassment.

Not surprised given the "ching chong" mess.

She's a fucking idiot for posting those pics but I do believe her when she says she was only calling that girl "Chief" because of her username. But yeah, pretty gross thing to do using a young kid like that in such an exploitive way.

it's so weird watching celebrities who were the "SJW"s of the 80s - 90s try to adapt to the rules of the new order. I don't think anybody's got this stuff figured out 100% but the main ingredient to succeeding is humility, which all of these people seem to lack.

and yeah, "look at all the racially diverse people I take pictures with" is to winning a social justice argument as correcting someone's grammar is to winning an argument anywhere else on the internet

it's like rolling out the, "but my black friend doesn't mind" shit.

"it's so weird watching celebrities who were the "SJW"s of the 80s - 90s try to adapt to the rules of the new order"

omg this is such a fascinating thought. please expand. who were the other SJWs of the 80s/90s.

i mean i'm thinking about people like george clooney and alec baldwin who were believe it or not once considered hugely liberal

also angelina jolie although at least she knows enough to keep her mouth shut

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