By FRED TOPEL
CraveOnline: John and Mark said Algernon was not based on the story Flowers for Algernon but did you think of that when you played the character?
Andre Holland: You know, actually the thing that came to mind for me was Algernon in Oscar Wilde’s play. That’s the only other time I heard that name, but then I thought about Flowers for Algernon. I don’t know how they came up with the name but I don’t think they were trying to focus on anywhere in particular.
It seemed like by episode two, Algernon became very patient with discrimination.
Well, I don’t think he becomes patient with it, but I think he understands how big the task is. I think he understands this is not something that’s going to be solved in a day, so he starts finding subversive ways to get around it.
Does that translate into his bedside manner, where he’s better able to handle perhaps hostile patients?
That’s a good question. I don’t think so. I think that he’s a patient person by nature and I think he actually has good bedside manner, which I don’t think that Thackery does. Throughout the whole thing, it’s always a challenge because the patients, both black and white, are shocked at the fact that he’s actually a surgeon and it’s the first time for them seeing a black surgeon. I think they’re all a little bit scared of it. But, I think after dealing with the number of patients who are like that, he kind of begins to understand going into it that okay, they’re going to be a little freaked out. Maybe in episode six or seven he starts to say to patients, “Don’t be alarmed. I’m going to touch you.” Anyway, I think it just becomes a part of his life.
What sort of interesting surgical cases does Algernon have?
Oh man, he does a lot. He does a hernia. He operates in a hernia. He works on Ida Harris, the woman with the swollen arm.
She went to the other hospital. So she comes back.
I don’t want to spoil it for you, man.
No, I can imagine how we’d see her again.
Yeah, there’s a number of things. He also works in The Knick as well assisting with some things. There are some heart procedures that happen. There’s an eye. There’s all kinds of things, tons of different surgical procedures but he’s pretty proficient at all of them.
Is Thackery in some ways right that the medical field is not the right place to talk about social progress and integration? That by the time things get as tense as they are in a hospital, that might not be the ideal place for social progress? It’s complicated.
From his point of view I can understand, because he has a vested interest in the success of the hospital and the hospital’s already struggling financially, so I can understand his point of view. But at the same time, I think that, like Dr. King says, if not now, when? If you wait for an ideal time to make a change, to deal with issues, then I don’t know if that time will ever come.
I was thinking more that people who are dying just aren’t as open minded as they might be in good health.
I see what you mean. Yeah, sure. If it was a case of there’s a patient who needs help, we don’t want to try some experiment on this person. We want to actually save their lives, but from Algernon’s point of view, he actually is one of the finest surgeons in the world. It would actually make sense to have him help.
It looks so convincing on screen. How realistic is the makeup of the surgery scenes?
Very realistic. I mean, those guys, there were moments when we all got a little squeamish. When the blood starts flowing and you see the organs that look and feel so real, it’s pretty scary. When you touch the bowel, it feels like the real deal.
How does Algernon’s relationship with Thackery progress. Is it always confrontational? Do they have to form an uneasy alliance?
Again, I don’t want to give too much away, but I will say the way it starts, it starts very rough. It gets a lot worse before it gets any better, but it does develop. Even where it’s left at the end of the season, it still has a lot more ground to cover. If we’re fortunate enough to do a season two, I think that relationship is going to be one of the key ones.
I think it’s key now. If season two is 1901, how different will things be for black doctors a year later?
I don’t know. I think New York at that time was changing at such a rapid pace, fast forwarding even a year, the city would be different than it was in 1900. In terms of the black patients, I think that Algernon really is breaking ground in New York City as a black doctor. He’s beginning to get some notoriety and some fame as being this black doctor who people can come to for help. I’m not sure where they’re going to go with that storyline, but I imagine that he’s going to be the guy to see. Especially for African-American patients who need help because I don’t think the hospitals in the city are going to all open their doors and go, “Okay, come on in, guys. We’re here to treat everybody.” He’s going to become more important.
With segregation, Thackery’s equipment is already so bad and faulty. Does Algernon get stuck with even worse equipment?
He does. Yeah, he goes down to the basement and scavenges and gets as much old stuff together as he can, modifies some things. Every once in a while he’ll borrow some things from the hospital upstairs, but he just makes it work.
Are any of his surgeries compromised by that?
There’s one that gets compromised, not because of the equipment but because it’s difficult for him to offer continued care. Because he has a very small space he’s working in, there’s only room really for one patient so he doesn’t have time to let people sit there and recover for the time that they need to. So he has to trust that people will follow his directions and take care of themselves, but he doesn’t realize that these people also have to go to work, they have to make a living for themselves. So sometimes things get a little tricky in that way, but not because of the equipment. Just because of the difficulty of the whole situation.
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