he was never my favorite on either of those shows, but he always seemed mostly harmless. i know OF his standup and understand that it was lots of wacky rants - but violence against your own family due to complete homophobia? i never pegged him for that.
OMG! everyone needs to go back to civics class. freedom of speech means the government can't prevent you from saying dumb shit; however, the general public has every right to call out the bigotry of hate-mongers like Morgan. NBC shouldn't subsidize his bullshit. I hope he gets fired.
I kinda agree with you. Tracy is most definitely not normal but he probably is homophobic. He just seems ignorant. Like he would be nice and friends with a gay person if he worked with them but will just randomly say stupid homophobic shit.
he has the right to say what he wants to say, of course, but he is representing 30 rock, tina fey, etc-- a show that/and has people heavily supporting glbt rights. don't say he doesn't because you bet your ass he was billed as 30 ROCK'S TRACY MOPRGAN.
i don't think he should be as criticized as isahahahaha washington who actually had hate projected at his co-star but..
Sorry, but when you get to his age and you're still that homophobic and ignorant even though you've encountered plenty of GLBT people, yes you are a bad person.
It doesn't sound like this speech is just an off-colour joke though, it sounds like it was a hateful rant, and I do not believe someone would go into that kind of hateful rant if they did not believe whatever racist/homophobic/etc things they were saying. It's like when people get called out on saying something racist/sexist/whatever and they go "oh but I was drunk lol". Bullshit, alcohol doesn't make you a racist, you wouldn't have said those things if you didn't believe them.
I was going to post this, tbh. My bf recently got into 30 Rock on Netflix and I kept wondering if he was mentally challenged or if that was how Tracy Jordan is supposed to be played...
idk, i think you can joke about being gay and make it tasteful. wanda, in her own stand up, has joked about comparing coming out as a lesbian to her parents to coming out to her parents as a black woman. it is actually very funny and tasteful. i think it's very possible to joke about these things. tracy morgan was not making jokes though, he was just spewing hate.
Honestly this whole situation doesn't surprise me at all. He's always seemed a little off. Oh well. The only time I've ever found him remotely funny was on Martin as Hustle Man.
And Chris, come on dude. I feel like he honestly disapproved but he should have kept his mouth shut instead of saying some ridic bullshit.
I love Wanda. I've met her before and she's the sweetest person irl.
Oh my god. He was hustle man? Wow it's been awhile. lol I really like Wanda and her wife is hot. I still can't for the life of me tell was her race or ethnicity is.
plus he's probably under contract for next season and it could be extremely expensive to pay him off to not show up and buy a replacement, and it's not like 30 rock is a ratings powerhouse that is NBC's top priority
Take the the very same people who are up in arms over Tina's "lack of action" and see if they have individuals in their own lives who spout off sexist/homophobic remarks on occasion.
REALLY. I wanna see how many people continuously tell off their friends, family members or co-workers whenever they hear something REMOTELY offensive/insensitive. I read "I SIDE EYE MY DAD FOR SAYING SEXIST STUFF" comments in wank posts but sorry, side eyes don't make a difference- if you're putting Tina Fey on blast then I can put you and your asshole dad on blast too.
If I had enough mental strength, I'd be chewing out at least 5 people a day for saying messed up shit. But I have to be diplomatic at work, I have to realize my grandfather is an old fuck who will never change and I resist the urge to punch my brother in the face because I don't wanna spend the night in jail.
I think people are forgetting Tina is his friend. She first of all doesn't have the power to fire him. She is not going to attack in a statement considering her relationship with him. I though her statement was fine. I understand what people expect from her.
IA, and tbh I don't think she's going to be chillin' at his crib with a drank anytime soon, but I feel like her comment was as bland as it is because of, well, business. She can't really rip into him because she knows they work together and she knows that going off might garner backlash from some of his supporters. Honestly, I think she knows Tracy Morgan is fucking crazy and needs to be on meds and she's just like "fuck man why didn't you take your fucking lithium that day bitch"? Do you know what I mean?
I'd hope you'd at least talk to them one-on-one first and ask them what the fuck they were thinking and if they really believe what they said. I wouldn't throw a friendship away because someone went on a hate filled rant without trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with them first and seeing if they were willing to confront how and why they were wrong.
Edited at 2011-06-11 06:27 pm (UTC)
He has no appeal and he never did.
The constitution does not protect you from making an ass of yourself.
he has the right to say what he wants to say, of course, but he is representing 30 rock, tina fey, etc-- a show that/and has people heavily supporting glbt rights. don't say he doesn't because you bet your ass he was billed as 30 ROCK'S TRACY MOPRGAN.
i don't think he should be as criticized as isahahahaha washington who actually had hate projected at his co-star but..
I personally love Hornberger. More Pete, please.
And Chris, come on dude. I feel like he honestly disapproved but he should have kept his mouth shut instead of saying some ridic bullshit.
I love Wanda. I've met her before and she's the sweetest person irl.
I really like Wanda and her wife is hot. I still can't for the life of me tell was her race or ethnicity is.
also lol at people still bashing tina fey over her response
what the hell was she supposed to do?
yeah.... because i'm ~~sure she has the authority to do that, and contracts can be completely dissolved just like that
csb/tl;dr/calmdown
Take the the very same people who are up in arms over Tina's "lack of action" and see if they have individuals in their own lives who spout off sexist/homophobic remarks on occasion.
REALLY. I wanna see how many people continuously tell off their friends, family members or co-workers whenever they hear something REMOTELY offensive/insensitive. I read "I SIDE EYE MY DAD FOR SAYING SEXIST STUFF" comments in wank posts but sorry, side eyes don't make a difference- if you're putting Tina Fey on blast then I can put you and your asshole dad on blast too.
If I had enough mental strength, I'd be chewing out at least 5 people a day for saying messed up shit. But I have to be diplomatic at work, I have to realize my grandfather is an old fuck who will never change and I resist the urge to punch my brother in the face because I don't wanna spend the night in jail.
Edited at 2011-06-11 06:56 pm (UTC)