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kpop's newest bully is welcomed back by hybe



Previously, on Le Sserafim: Hybe's newest girl group, Le Sserafim, debuted about two months ago. Within weeks lots of reports came in about one of the girls, Kim Garam, being a monster in high school. The details are fuzzy and Hybe hasn't been very forthcoming about it, but apparently numerous former schoolmates have come forward about being bullied by her. One victim in particular has lawyered up against Hybe.


Statement by the victim's lawyers: "The victim (henceforth named using the pseudonym Yoo Eunseo) was a victim of school violence from Kim Garam and her friends from late April to early May 2018. She transferred to a new school one to two weeks after the incidents, unable to withstand the continuous group violence. On June 4, 2018, the School Violence Countermeasures Committee was held and Kim Garam, a student who had committed school violence, was punished with six hours of special education...Her parents received five hours of special education in accordance with paragraph nine of the same article. Yoo Eunseo, a victim of school violence Yoo Eunseo, a victim of school violence, received psychological counseling and advice. The victim, Yoo Eunseo, voluntarily transferred because she could not withstand the continued bullying but she suffered from malicious rumors."

Hybe's response: "Contrary to the claims, it was confirmed through a third-party statement that Kim Ga-ram was a victim of school bullying, including malicious rumors and cyberbullying, when she was in middle school."

Hybe then pulled Garam from the debut's promotional activities, "to heal her wounded heart." They released another, detailed explanation of the situation, which includes some uncomfortable stuff so I'm not going to rehash it here, check the source below if you'd like to see it.

Yesterday, it was revealed that Garam would be resuming her schedule with the group in Japan. One conspiracy theory is that Hybe leaked Tae and Jennie from BTS and Blackpink dating in order to get people's minds off of this scandal, which doesn't make sense but okay. No word on what's happening legally behind the scenes, but there is severe backlash online so far. She has been spotted at the agency also, practicing with the group and signing promotional things.

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UHHHH

lemme grab TXT and burn this company to the ground
why won't they just get rid of her???

i_prefer_scummy

June 23 2022, 08:25:25 UTC 1 day ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 08:28:33 UTC

That is the big question. My thoughts:

1. I think they see her as an investment. They also already have hella content created with her in it, so scrapping her a few weeks ago would have meant they can't share the content and it'd be a loss.

2. They see her as one of the stand out stars of the group. She is the first one featured in the debut song and video. They think the groups success depends on her talent.

3. They don't want to admit they didn't do their due diligence in making sure she was ~perfect~ idol material. Admitting this could lead to lawsuits from victims.

4. They think they are powerful enough to circumvent Korean general public criticism and folks will get over it.

ETA: 5. Her parents got money or she is connected somehow.

6. They want to make this group an international success and don't think this will hurt them anywhere outside of SK.
tbh i think hybe just has no idea how to deal with a scandal of any kind. they think fans will just continue to stan or cover this up but they don't realize that female idols don't get the "oppar didn't mean it" defense
ofc they do and ofc Japan where ppl probably don’t care tbh

One of my bullies won millions on a scratch ticket. It makes me pretty sad 🫠
Your bully now has a 1 in 3 chance of declaring bankruptcy.
There's a 70% chance that they'll blow through all of the winnings well before they can retire.
Their odds of ending up in legal hot water have gone through the roof.

Honestly, congratulations! Your bully has been cursed.
Adding to that, your bully is going to be getting non-stop calls and texts asking for money from friends, acquaintances and family members. Your bully will lose some friends, create incredibly toxic tension in their whole extended family, and they're never going to be sure if someone likes them genuinely, or is out for their money.
Lol wounded heart….
I guess the whole "reflecting" excuse got old
Who is the woman with the short hair in the gif? Looks like Seo In Young but I don't think it is??

wonheaux

June 23 2022, 06:14:06 UTC 1 day ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 06:14:30 UTC

she's jea from brown eyed girls

shittysoup

1 day ago

juanitatequila

June 23 2022, 04:19:35 UTC 2 days ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 04:20:56 UTC

i'm convinced she also bullied and blackmailed staff members from hybe tbh

she also brought literally nothing to the group so i don't understand this DESPERATION for her to be there?!?!?!
Her manipulation must be strong cuz their is no way I will let some 17 (?) girl bully me without getting her face smashed in.
She must be related to someone in the company cause literally WHY would they hold onto her so intensely? She doesn’t even add anything to the group, their 5-piece performances were all solid without her.
I don't follow kpop that closely anymore, is this affecting the group in any way like on the charts?
no, it looks like her scandal shot them up to the top ten but fearless is also bop
I mean, no, but they also moved up higher on the charts after she went on hiatus. I think a lot of fans are gonna be done in SK if she comes back, tho.
What backlash are they getting for this online?

revertigo

June 23 2022, 04:33:37 UTC 2 days ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 04:34:25 UTC

it doesn't look like she's guilty at all tbh
https://docs.google.com/document/d/108cJs2GeHfWbn9I9-yzMEYvkXMJA3UExd7aH67skXaY/edit?usp=sharing
Omfg what is the truth!!!

revertigo

June 23 2022, 04:48:15 UTC 2 days ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 04:49:08 UTC

ok like when i first read the bullying rumors, it was so obvious to me it was started by a bunch of jealous teens? i was kind of concerned for the adults around me who took it seriously?

then shit got kind of real with the school violence report, but when you read the both statements, not even the one from the alleged victim said garam was physically violent. and the victim's legal counsel never denied hybe's claims that their client uploaded a picture of a minor in their underwear 💀 i would've done much worse than curse the girl out tbh

alex_haruko

1 day ago

revertigo

1 day ago

Lmaooo I'm so sorry, some of the evidence on that doc isn't evidence at all and proves nothing? The first paragraph doesn't even disprove at all the claims of the victim regarding their s*icide attempt.

I have no horse in this race, but that article was clearly written by fans because it's quite biased.

revertigo

1 day ago

alex_haruko

1 day ago

Speaking broadly ab this document, its a very lazy and damaging interpretation of the situation

revertigo

1 day ago

iznanassi

1 day ago

revertigo

1 day ago

iznanassi

today

revertigo

today

mzgrottesca

1 day ago

revertigo

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mzgrottesca

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revertigo

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mzgrottesca

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revertigo

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So you want to die on the hill of some fan accounts thesis? Like what happened to believing the bullied until actually proof of innocence is found? And no, I am not reading that. And second, fans can manipulate screen shots so I'm not going to believe some fans saying noona didn't do it.

And honestly what has this girl gained by coming forward? She's seconds away from being doxxed by crazy stans who have only known this group for five seconds, had to drop out of high school, felt she had to commit sui*ide, etc etc. No one would do this just because they were jealous. There's nothing to be gained here.

revertigo

1 day ago

tsukino

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revertigo

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tsukino

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revertigo

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tsukino

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almostlawyer

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revertigo

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youandeyeteewhy

1 day ago

magzness

1 day ago

i love how the doc pretends to be impartial and then right at the beginning it says "tweet @thegreatgaram for more info" lmao

revertigo

1 day ago

at this rate im not even gonna have any more thoughts on this and be head empty. when the school violence committee documents were leaked i felt like it was definitely confirmed/over for her, but hybe's silence and willingness to keep her is what has me wondering weeks later. i feel like hybe has had to be compiling some form of rebuttal this entire time. also the way netizens seem to be more upset about her doing 👉👌 on a picture with friends than anything else...

revertigo

1 day ago

simprov

1 day ago

kashiyaek

1 day ago

??? how is that your conclusion when the document opens with a disclaimer saying "This document is not intended to prove whether Kim Garam was either guilty or innocent."

It doesn't deny the fact that the whole incident (and subsequent investigation and hearing) was — as corroborated by the Department of Education, even with their "speculative" choice of words (I don't speak Korean but if it translates to "seems" and "appears", it sounds like a run-of-the-mill "confirmation, without saying more") — on record. Details notwithstanding.

revertigo

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neuroticismette

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revertigo

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neuroticismette

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revertigo

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neuroticismette

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iznanassi

today

revertigo

today

I stopped reading after the first claim was declared false because ... what? Some unnamed people thought the message sounded like it was written by the victim? That's not proof and I wouldn't be surprised if most of the document is like that.

I haven't looked into what Kim Garam is supposedly guilty of, but this Bible-length Google doc isn't fooling anyone with "This document is not intended to prove whether Kim Garam was either guilty or innocent" then saying everything is false.

revertigo

1 day ago

That photo … they look like „keep original format“ copy pasted
literally who is this child related to? who is her family?
Honestly, I think the group will survive even with Kim Garam just because it's HYBE and they have a lot of money and power.

Now, I don't think they'll be one of the leading girl groups like the company wanted, that ship already sailed with the way they've handled the whole situation. The group will probably have a good level of fame and that's it, especially because every comeback they have there'll inevitably be articles and SNS posts about the bullying allegations.

koalat

June 23 2022, 05:41:51 UTC 1 day ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 05:45:40 UTC

how do idols in other companies with longevity and loads of fans get dropped super fast but HYBE cant drop a nugu? so weird

edit: now i think about it most idols made it thru their bullying accusations/past so nvm !
theres also a history of false allegations in kpop tho
some groups never don't recover from false allegations like t-ara, lovelyz, and aoa

but soojin was dropped and, recently, a bg dropped a kid after checking w/ his school and confirming the bullying rumors

I didn’t know the AOA allegations were proven to be false. The last I heard of the situation was that Mina wasn’t in a healthy mental state and was perhaps an unreliable narrator, but I don’t think that disproved all her allegations.

akty52

1 day ago

mzgrottesca

1 day ago

akty52

1 day ago

revertigo

1 day ago

benihime99

1 day ago

revertigo

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benihime99

1 day ago

revertigo

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benihime99

1 day ago

revertigo

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benihime99

1 day ago

altheablue

1 day ago

mzgrottesca

1 day ago

AOA... girl
Like come on now
How are T-ara or AOA examples of "false allegations"? You can say they didn't deserve scandal maybe but cmon.

revertigo

1 day ago

kashiyaek

1 day ago

roomgirl

1 day ago

kashiyaek

1 day ago

There's a longer history of people getting away with bullying and shitty behaviour in kpop.

revertigo

1 day ago

are we surprised that BTS label would be okay with bullying, after all the let the boys do?
Come on now, this was expected

i_prefer_scummy

June 23 2022, 08:33:08 UTC 1 day ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 08:34:07 UTC

What do they let the boys do exactly? And they've been under hybe for only a few years... So I am assuming you mean more recently.

benihime99

June 23 2022, 08:34:48 UTC 1 day ago Edited:  June 23 2022, 08:35:43 UTC

how long do you have
cause it ranges from assaulting their fans to disrespecting holocaust memorial?

Hybe is just big hit new face

miwa201

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benihime99

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miwa201

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benihime99

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miwa201

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