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Martin Sheen Says He Regrets Not Using His Real Name - Ramon Estévez


  • Martin Sheen spoke to Closer Weekly, saying one of his regrets was never using his real name Ramon Estévez.

  • "That’s one of my regrets. I never changed my name officially. It’s still Ramon Estévez on my birth certificate,"

  • He added that his given name is also still listed on his marriage license, passport, and driver’s license. Martin's parents were both immigrants, his mother Irish and father Spanish.

  • "Sometimes, you get persuaded when you don’t have enough insight or even enough courage to stand up for what you believe in, and you pay for it later," he said, adding, "But, of course, I’m only speaking for myself."

  • And while he regrets not using Ramon in the public eye, he says he's thankful he was able to persuade his son Emilio to keep his real name.

  • "The only influence I had on Emilio was to keep his name...When he started out, his agent was advising him to change his name to Sheen, and he wouldn’t do it. And I thank God he didn’t."

  • Seems he was unable to persuade Charlie to keep his, whose real name is Carlos Irwin Estevez.

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drblind

drblind

June 22 2022, 11:04:02 UTC 2 days ago

i let americans pronounce my name differently than it's actually said and i feel like i've gone too long this way to change it to the right way lol
spiffle

spiffle

June 22 2022, 11:09:38 UTC 2 days ago

I had a co-worker pronounce my name incorrectly. I corrected them. They laughed and continued to call me the wrong name for the whole time I worked there.
theactualworst

theactualworst

June 22 2022, 13:51:44 UTC 2 days ago

I had a coworker like this who would always mispronounce our other coworker’s wife’s name. We’d always correct him and he’d act like it was just too hard. People suck.
weighty_ghost

weighty_ghost

June 22 2022, 14:09:13 UTC 2 days ago

I had a coworker who had lived in Canada for 20+ years, her legal name was a Chinese name but she had been going by an English name for 20 years and preferred it particularly in business - she said her family were the only ones to call her by her Chinese name so it made her feel weird. We asked her on first day what she wanted, and she said English name.

Well my boss said fuck that and continued for 5 years to call her by her Chinese name (I think because it made them feel special for hiring someone 'international'). It caused confusion because people were like... who is --? and she'd have to constantly correct people
maidenhell

maidenhell

June 22 2022, 14:57:27 UTC 2 days ago

I once had an instructor in college do this. Every morning I would correct him during roll call ... and every damn day, he would say my name wrong. My fellow students even noticed it and would roll their eyes. Thing is, if you say my name wrong, it can become a word that rhymes with something that has bad connotations. The man should have retired. He was just so ignorant.
artsyfartsy01

artsyfartsy01

June 23 2022, 12:40:22 UTC 1 day ago

I had a coworker like that once, who refused to pronounce my name right, and I started calling him fully different names all the time. He got so annoyed so fast lol
ginainabottle

ginainabottle

June 22 2022, 11:19:45 UTC 2 days ago

Americans' inability to pronounce the easiest names just bc they're slightly different than what they're used to never ceases to amaze me. We can't all be Karens and Johns, folks.
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muffintiem

muffintiem

June 22 2022, 11:22:26 UTC 2 days ago

In the last 10+ years or so, I make it a point to make sure people say my name right. It always feels lowkey racist when people don't pronounce it right after hearing me say it.
umhowabout_no

umhowabout_no

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semalina

semalina

June 22 2022, 13:12:13 UTC 2 days ago Edited:  June 22 2022, 13:17:10 UTC

a person once "joked" how the proper way to say my name sounded like one of the ways to say cum (attempting to keep it vague lol) and i never looked back
trynabme

trynabme

June 22 2022, 13:28:16 UTC 2 days ago

Lol this is me. I have a unique African name and Americans always butcher it and I don't say anything lol.

If I am out at a loud venue, and its just someone I am meeting in passing (As in I wont see them again ever) I just give them a generic name. To much hassle to try to let them understand over loud music.
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nigelwitthebrie

nigelwitthebrie

June 22 2022, 14:18:17 UTC 2 days ago

My Korean name is Yuna, but the Americanized Anglo-Saxons always mispronounced my name by calling me “Oona” or “Urna”….so now when they ask me why Asians have two names (which is their ethnic and American name) I usually respond by saying it’s cuz most Americans butcher our name, so to make it easier on everyone we adopted an Americanized name.
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lozbabie

lozbabie

June 22 2022, 14:29:11 UTC 2 days ago

My mums name is a hypen (think Jodi-Lee) She went by Jody her entire life but when she was 54 decided she was going by Jodi-Lee. Took my dad about 5 he ads to adjust and it’s still a bit weird to hear her refered to as that, but she loves it and my grandparents love it too.

It’s definitly worth it!
piecesofalice

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hawkguy

hawkguy

June 22 2022, 14:48:24 UTC 2 days ago

Yeaah, usually people ask me to repeat it when I first introduce myself, or I will correct them the first time they say it, but then I kind of let it go (I know I shouldn't but I get self-conscious!)

Ugh I had this one professor who mispronounced my name on first roll call. I corrected him and gave the option of calling me by my initial. He then, in mock-offence, said "What, you don't think that I can learn to say your name properly?" and made me repeat my name a few more times. Next class, and for rest of semester, he still kept mispronouncing it. 🙃
nigelwitthebrie

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tragedyofempty

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oblivious_frog

oblivious_frog

June 22 2022, 15:31:37 UTC 2 days ago

The head of my old department mispronounced my hispanic last name by switching around 2 of the letters and then like a domino effect it happened with others even in meetings with clients. I was so tired of correcting them.

Thank god I've joined a new team that respects how things should be pronounced.
lone_concertina

lone_concertina

June 22 2022, 16:07:26 UTC 2 days ago

I'm an American who moved to Portugal and now just go by my mispronounced name because no one here can figure it out the right way.
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plunaris

plunaris

June 22 2022, 20:06:04 UTC 2 days ago

I'm in the same boat. My name is Vietnamese but not difficult to say in English whatsoever, but ever since in pre-school my teachers would never say my name correctly so I just settled with a bastardization and now it's too late to go back because too many people call me that name instead of my actual name.
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archersangel

archersangel

June 23 2022, 04:37:26 UTC 2 days ago

I have a Polish-ish (it was "simplified") last name that people have trouble with.
Some pronounce a letter that's not there & I'm like; Where do you see this letter you're pronouncing? I'm not saying it when I tell you the name.

But I'm torn between correcting people & seeming like a nit-picking bitch and letting people say it wrong.
buries

buries

June 25 2022, 02:27:21 UTC today

there is never an expiry wrt correcting the pronunciation of your name. do it if you feel comfortable. if anyone asks why, just say you’d like for your name to be said correctly. you owe no one shit.
oldmoviesnstuff

oldmoviesnstuff

June 22 2022, 11:20:50 UTC 2 days ago

I found it easier to adopt "an English name" when I moved to England because they always pronounce my name wrong and I didn't want to wear myself out having to repeat my name over and over again :/
sea_thoughts

sea_thoughts

June 22 2022, 12:42:00 UTC 2 days ago

I'm sorry. :/
nigelwitthebrie

nigelwitthebrie

June 22 2022, 14:21:35 UTC 2 days ago

This for me^^^but I live in America lol….for me I kept saying “it’s like Tuna but with a Y (my name is Yuna)….yet they would still butcher it. Sometimes I feel like they intentionally mispronounce it, just to see my reaction. After awhile I just tell everyone my English name and only let my family call me by my ethnic name.
bsfan

bsfan

June 22 2022, 17:25:09 UTC 2 days ago

This sucks. Yuna is so easy to say too.
heavy

heavy

June 22 2022, 21:05:03 UTC 2 days ago

Yuna is a very cute name
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kerosene_pill

kerosene_pill

June 23 2022, 17:28:08 UTC 1 day ago

I'm baffled by how this would be so difficult to pronounce?! People are so stupid, I'm sorry :(
boomstick

boomstick

June 22 2022, 19:05:43 UTC 2 days ago

Yeah...my friend is from Norway and her birth name is Astrid, pronounced "Ah-stree". She legally dropped the "t" because everyone mispronounced it.
bossm

bossm

June 22 2022, 11:27:42 UTC 2 days ago

I took the name of my father because it was easier than having the difficult name of my mother. It’s actually not a difficult name but people were always mispronouncing it and it sounded more foreign.
boomstick

boomstick

June 22 2022, 19:06:29 UTC 2 days ago

My last name is long and Greek and nobody could pronounce it or spell it. I took my husband's last name because it's the same as a classic Hollywood name (think Flynn or Monroe) and it's so nice having a name people can actually pronounce.
bossm

bossm

June 23 2022, 09:38:46 UTC 1 day ago

I feel you! The name of my father has a strange letter in it but at least it sounds normal.
oncourt

oncourt

June 22 2022, 11:32:13 UTC 2 days ago

TIL Martin Sheen has a very Spanish name

I used to hate my family name when I was younger because it is extremely popular where I live and I wanted to have a "cooler" family name. Nowadays I like it, everyone knows how to pronounce it and I never have to spell it
purrple_267

purrple_267

June 22 2022, 11:39:45 UTC 2 days ago

My name starts with an 'i' followed by another vowel, a couple of times a week someone calls me 'L.....'. Trust me, this is not limited to Americans. I write my name in lower-case and it doesn't help cause motherfuckers can't read.
wowthatisminty

wowthatisminty

June 22 2022, 19:37:35 UTC 2 days ago

That happened to a friend of mine in college. Their name is Ien (pronounced like "Ian"). They would get so much email addressed to "Len." It probably didn't help that their birth name DID start with an L so people would see the email address and see "Ien" and just think Ien was doing some sort of ee cummings thing.
purrple_267

purrple_267

June 22 2022, 19:53:26 UTC 2 days ago

I feel for your friend! "i" doesn't help, people still see an L and some will keep seeing it after you've corrected them 3 times lol. It's also the first thing I wonder when I see a post about that fantastic 4 actor (Ioan?) - how many "Hi Loan"s he gets on monthly basis.
justrachna

justrachna

June 22 2022, 11:41:30 UTC 2 days ago

I use a fake white people first name for booking reservations at restaurants and my white bff is used to me using her name sometimes for bookings she just rolls with it when they announce her name or my fake white name for reservations lol
snark_ranger

snark_ranger

June 23 2022, 11:18:46 UTC 1 day ago

I am so quick to give the other person’s name if I am getting dinner I can see the moment of surprise on their face that it rolls off my tongue so easily.
buries

buries

June 25 2022, 02:30:59 UTC today

i use my dad’s name whenever we go anywhere bc it’s the most basic name you can’t mishear. mine, you can. glad to know someone else does this lol.
emmanium

emmanium

June 22 2022, 11:49:56 UTC 2 days ago

My first name Emma is quite common in many countries and cultures, so it's difficult to get it wrong, although the pronunciation of course differs from language to language. I don't care if ppl say it the way that's 'normal' in their language, that's just natural.

My last name is a long and 'complicated' Finnish last name that's easy to spell and pronounce for native Finnish speakers and basically no one else. So saying my name to non-Finnish speakers is always fun.
invisiblegirlx

invisiblegirlx

June 22 2022, 13:35:10 UTC 2 days ago

Finnish is a challenge for me to pronounce as a non Finn with Finnish family who lived there. I can't wrap my mouth around the long words and so many vowels. Whenever I tried to speak in Finnish people would talk to me in English rofl.
loveumbrella

loveumbrella

June 22 2022, 15:15:46 UTC 2 days ago Edited:  June 22 2022, 15:16:08 UTC

my name consists of just the same five letters and mostly vowels, first name and last, it's a trip for even Finns to get right, so for foreigners i just spell it straight away
vvitchbaby

vvitchbaby

June 22 2022, 15:40:44 UTC 2 days ago

Your comment about Emma reminds me of the very first AITA post i ever read of a kid named Michael in a French class and his teacher pronounced it the French way of "michelle" and he didn't like it. Comments were so divided on who the asshole was
xtinkerbellax

xtinkerbellax

June 22 2022, 11:51:33 UTC 2 days ago

Emilio Estevez is a good name so glad he kept it. I have a Spanish last name but idk if the average person in the US would even recognize it as such, although I do remember covering the definition in Spanish class.
theactualworst

theactualworst

June 22 2022, 13:54:05 UTC 2 days ago

I agree I love his name.
dnttllhrry

dnttllhrry

June 22 2022, 15:16:41 UTC 2 days ago

I love the name Emilio.
lolitalockheart

lolitalockheart

June 22 2022, 16:39:48 UTC 2 days ago

It is a great name especially compared to Martin Sheen imo
scarygibberish

scarygibberish

June 22 2022, 18:03:03 UTC 2 days ago

It's a good name but it's always bothered me that people pronounce it with emphasis on the first E when it should be on the second
helyanwe89

helyanwe89

June 22 2022, 11:57:13 UTC 2 days ago

My last name is German, which I am fine with. I dislike my Irish first name, I prefer to just use my middle name as it is a normal, common name. I really wish my parents had reversed the names so my legal first name would what my middle name is. I looked into doing it myself & it seems way too complicated. My family goes by middle names a lot so they could have probably still called me by the name they liked more.
picturemegone

picturemegone

June 22 2022, 12:18:56 UTC 2 days ago

I have the same issue. I wish first and middle was reversed but I don't want to go thru all the trouble and money to change all my documents. I have always been called my middle name since birth and I hate having a useless first name.
i_l0ve_my_az

i_l0ve_my_az

June 22 2022, 12:50:32 UTC 2 days ago

Same here. my first name is pretty common but i HATE it and i never go by it. i was told it’s a pretty common spanish/catholic naming convention (citation needed lol). i have french and quebecois friends whose first names are marie and who never go by that either…
marywebgirl

marywebgirl

June 22 2022, 13:14:55 UTC 2 days ago

I have an unusual Irish first name so I use my middle name, Mary, for my “Starbucks” name (hence my username too).
veracity

veracity

June 22 2022, 18:05:03 UTC 2 days ago

That's why we made Rae her middle name. I realized Rae would be pronounced like Rä to many Germans, given the ae connection. Since we live here, we did a lot of thinking.
xenaskills

xenaskills

June 22 2022, 11:59:19 UTC 2 days ago

Can someone tell me why America is so weird about Spanish heritage and why they seem to lump all Latinos and Hispanic people together? Is it just stupidity? Laziness?
xtinkerbellax

xtinkerbellax

June 22 2022, 12:03:01 UTC 2 days ago

Ignorance? Whenever ancestry came up when I was growing up and I said my Dad's family was Spanish I'd get, "oh, so you're Mexican?". Like if I meant Mexican i would have said that, have you never heard of Spain?
bdl

bdl

June 22 2022, 12:21:10 UTC 2 days ago

this…. is a very fraught topic

i would try and delve into but my kid has her first dentist appointment today and i don’t have the time lmao
delfintaka

delfintaka

June 22 2022, 12:52:28 UTC 2 days ago

Good luck to your bebè! 🦷❤
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marywebgirl

marywebgirl

June 22 2022, 13:15:30 UTC 2 days ago

Good luck!
bdl

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xenaskills

xenaskills

June 22 2022, 13:45:49 UTC 2 days ago

That’s ok. Go get your kid’s teeth pulled.
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gloeden2

gloeden2

June 22 2022, 12:22:53 UTC 2 days ago

WHITE PEOPLE.
I mean, y'all need that spelled out?
You see the same thing throughout Europe and Brexit...I mean, Britain.
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mwffj

mwffj

June 22 2022, 12:24:07 UTC 2 days ago

We don't have a lot of Spaniards here compared to the sheer numbers of Latino and Hispanic people here. So the default is to assume when you hear a name like Gonzalez, it's Hispanic or Latino. Plus most people aren't even aware that Hispanic or Latino is an ethnicity and not a race. They'll argue with you when you tell them that Carlos Rivera down the street is classified as White.
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bicth

bicth

June 22 2022, 12:58:44 UTC 2 days ago

I umm- I mean, whew… chile

syvlie0o0

syvlie0o0

June 22 2022, 13:15:49 UTC 2 days ago

It’s not that complicated at all - Latinos are the second biggest ethnic group in America so all Spanish speakers are grouped together. No one here cares about differentiating Spaniards cause there aren’t that many.
vespertinev

vespertinev

June 22 2022, 13:36:15 UTC 2 days ago

Most of America speaks Spanish, we're not weird about it.
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steph313

steph313

June 22 2022, 13:50:45 UTC 2 days ago

One thing Florida can get slightly right (well, at least in the major cities—south Florida/Orlando/Tampa—we aren’t talking the northern or redneck parts) is attempting to differentiate the different Latino countries people come from. It’s honestly not difficult after listening and learning from various people why it’s straight lazy to mix up, say, Puerto Ricans with Cubans—they’re entirely different cultures. They all are.

But I can’t tell you how many people I’ll have visit and be like “I want real Latin food!” and I’ll be like, “Ok you’ll have to be more specific. What kind? We’ve got a Cuban place, a Colombian place, and about 5 Brazilian places all within a 5 mile radius.” And they just stare and say either “Is there a difference?” or “Which has the best tacos?”
dnttllhrry

dnttllhrry

June 22 2022, 15:18:15 UTC 2 days ago

Boils down to Census shit in the 1970s. All Spanish speaking people were categorizes as "hispanic". For what reason, I'm not sure.
yami_no_hoshi

yami_no_hoshi

June 22 2022, 15:40:56 UTC 2 days ago

Haven’t you asked this before on one of your other accounts? Didn’t get the answer?
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therearewords

therearewords

June 22 2022, 12:04:10 UTC 2 days ago

My last name is only an issue in this country so sometimes I use my mother's: one day I'll discover if Asians can handle it, but never a problem with Anglicans and Latin Americas.
therearewords

therearewords

June 22 2022, 12:08:18 UTC 2 days ago

Add tweet here about respecting other people's names, not deciding to give them nicks because it's easier for you, people have a name for a reason and share it with you as a sign etc.

Gosh darn why didn't I keep that tweet.
umilicious

umilicious

June 22 2022, 18:39:32 UTC 2 days ago

Uuuuuugh, that is my pet peeve right there. I can’t tell you how many white Americans have asked to give me a nickname and have looked shocked when I say no to their face. Like, it’s only five letters — it doesn’t need to be any shorter!
therearewords

therearewords

June 22 2022, 18:41:49 UTC 2 days ago

Invest in someone through acknowledging their name tbh
sibylblack

sibylblack

June 22 2022, 12:13:11 UTC 2 days ago

Just here to say that I can't believe someone as nice as Martin Sheen has an awful son like Charlie.
gloeden2

gloeden2

June 22 2022, 12:26:25 UTC 2 days ago

Sheen wasn't so great back in the day.
He was Jeremy Strong but with psychedelics and a booze problem on top.
He's always had the right politics. But he was not a good guy in other ways until much later in his life.
sibylblack

sibylblack

June 22 2022, 12:44:10 UTC 2 days ago

I remember reading something about him having issues with alcohol but I didn't know the rest.
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beuk

beuk

June 22 2022, 18:28:37 UTC 2 days ago

Echoing the he wasn't always nice sentiment: we watched a video in health class a million years ago that featured Sheen talking about having to change his lifestyle after a heart attack (iirc). He referred to himself as having been a "rat bastard" and for some reason I've never forgot that.
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picturemegone

picturemegone

June 22 2022, 12:14:09 UTC 2 days ago

I got so tired of correcting people when I was younger that from middle school on I just went by my easier to pronounce first name instead of the middle one everyone who knows me has always called me.
gloeden2

gloeden2

June 22 2022, 12:17:14 UTC 2 days ago

It is what it is.
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