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Daniel Craig likes going to gay bars




The 53 year old actor has been married to actress Rachel Weisz since 2011, but he says he has been going to gay bars for as long as he can remember.

One, because he gets in less fights. He says everybody is chill at gay bars and there’s none of the aggressive heterosexual dick swinging he finds at straight bars. (I think he is just talking about toxic masculinity.)

Two, before he was married he says it was a good place to pick up women. He says he would go to those bars for ulterior motives and so would straight women. He says it was a very safe place to be.

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I think this came out at an interesting time because I’ve recently seen a lot of discourse about straight women and men flooding gay bars/clubs and making the queer folk at those gay spaces feel unsafe, when the whole point is it’s supposed to be a safe space for queer people. The rebuttal I’ve seen from certain straight women is that they too deserve a space to feel safe.

ONTD, how do you feel about this?
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My brother owns a gay bar and he says 99.9% of the people they need to remove for aggression are straight men who are there to pick up straight women. Either they get aggressive with the women or with other men for speaking to them.

I have no problem with straight women though going to gay bars as a safe place where they can have a good time without fear of harassment. But I have friends who think the complete opposite and really detest these women.
I’ve found that bar fights are started by people who are not part of the target/theme of the bar. I used to go to a biker bar, and everyone was chill, until the dumbass frat bros show up and try to start shit. They usually got kicked out pretty quick, and for the most part it was just middle aged guys who wanted to have a beer and talk bikes.
I just don’t understand why. Do these friends who “detest” these straight women keep that energy up outside of the bar? The amount of guys I’ve known who have this attitude, but have no issue attending “girl” nights out is unbelievable. The hypocrisy of it all.
I don’t detest straight woman at bars.

But we shouldn’t be able to tell you’re straight. So if you’re giggling over ‘teh gays’ and getting upset when being hit on then get the fuck out
shut the fuck up

hersplendidness

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hersplendidness

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jcgabo

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hersplendidness

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jcgabo

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lithiumflower

October 14 2021, 12:42:02 UTC 1 week ago Edited:  October 14 2021, 12:43:11 UTC

This was supposed to be a post comment, sorry about that.
It makes me wonder if that's why Fred "What Assault" Savage hangs out in gay bars. Some tabloid found out Fred goes to one a lot & suddenly he was all "Oh, I hang out there with my wife, just supporting my local businesses, etc", rme
What is this?? "I love gay bars - no homo!" lmao
I feel like let gay people have their spaces.
If all the straights are at the gay bar where are the gay people supposed to go to avoid the straights?
It's gentrification via orientation.
I love Daniel Craig
One, because he gets in less fights.
Luckily I have never seen a bar fight, but it sounds dumb that he needed to invade gay people's spaces to feel safe.
The rebuttal I’ve seen from certain straight women is that they too deserve a space to feel safe.

Straight women are nearly 50% of the population but can't make their own spaces?
Realistically, no. There’s no space straight women could make that straight men won’t feel entitled to enter.
I remember reading about female only areas on a train, in a country where school girls and women were constantly being sexually assaulted.

They couldn’t even have that. Men had a fit over it and invaded the space.
In Cairo, at least in 2015, they had women only cars on the subway system
Yeah, we have them in Japan for certain hours (peak hour) but it's never exclusively women. Drives me nuts. Thank god for telework now.
Remember that movie theater that wanted to have a women's only showing of Wonder Woman a few years ago and was sued by a (gay) man? Men will always feel entitled.
Not really. There was (is?) that women's coworking space The Wing that had to drop their "no men" policy after a discrimination lawsuit.

Plus it can get ugly real quick, seeing as a lot of TERFdom is a reaction to the perceived loss of those spaces.
lol straight women are not "nearly 50%" of the population. women might be but where exactly do the lesbians and bis fit into your statement?

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bellwetherr

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heretoruinyou

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bellwetherr

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akty52

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*women are nearly 50% of the population

The way power and specifically patriarchy works makes it so that this simple fact doesn't change what actual structural and material power women have access to broadly.
Please give me the address of that planet because I would like to go there.

swissbeauty23

October 14 2021, 09:15:10 UTC 1 week ago Edited:  October 14 2021, 09:15:56 UTC

I'm a bisexual woman and frequent queer nightlife, and not only do I typically feel better in them, I feel like I can be myself WAY more easily in those spaces.

I like to remind people who get up in arms about "straight girls" being at "their" bars that A) there really aren't many spaces for queer women, not even in big cities and B) not all women you assume are straight....are straight.

that being said, I do understand the issues that straight people in general can cause when entering these spaces, seeing them as side shows/novelties, etc. it's very much an issue. but I also think it's better to judge on behavior, not appearance.
I like to remind people who get up in arms about "straight girls" being at "their" bars that A) there really aren't many spaces for queer women, not even in big cities and B) not all women you assume are straight....are straight.

one thing I like about queer spaces in BK is that it's a mix of queer men and women. but the bars in manhattan are almost exclusively dominated by white gay men
This was the impression I got when I was there last month. I went to Metropolitan in Williamsburg vs. Phoenix Bar in East Village and the demographics were definitely different, although Williamsburg was much whiter than the part of BK I stayed in.

cbluechicken

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alienjive

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swissbeauty23

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oh 100%. the Brooklyn queer nightlife scene is fantastic overall.
this is how i feel and the get to be yourself part especially, it all feels so much safer and kinder. we don’t have any clubs or bars dedicated to the lgbtq+ community in my city unfortunately, but we do have special nights. i feel like i can have stuff in my pockets and know it’ll still be there by the end of the night without checking, meanwhile at any normal club night or gig i’d have my hands checking every 10 secs my phone is still there

andisprohi

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swissbeauty23

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a straight guy put his hand up my skirt and touched my vagina in a gay bar so yeah, we all know men go to gay bars to try and pick up what they see as desperate women with their guard down
I'm so sorry that happened to you 😓
thanks bb. i think most of us unfortunately have a story like it 😢 i was just grateful that the security kicked him out when i told them what happened so he didn't have the opportunity to do it to anyone else
jfc I'm so sorry :(
I’m so sorry. That’s disgusting and enraging.
fucking hell that’s horrible, i’m so sorry that happened
As a straight woman, I do too! Many of my friends are gay men in their 50's-70's. I find that at bars catering towards an older crowd, I feel welcome and almost always have a good time.
This has been my experience as well. Old Time gay people just want everyone to have a good time, and as long as you're not being an asshole it's fine.
Omg my absolute favorite club is an older one too! Everyone is about 20+ years older than me, and the dj plays amazing music from the 70s-90s. I always have a good time there, and it's also really inspiring to see people who are my parents or grandparents' age having a great time dancing.
It bums me out that intergenerational friendships, especially in the LGBTQ community seem somewhat rare; at least in the places I have lived. There is a lot of animosity in particular towards gay men (specifically white ones), which I understand in some ways. And I am coming to their friendship as a white woman so I recognize my level of access and privilege. But the friends I have are gay rights activists in the deep south who have spent their whole lives fighting to make things better for everyone. They judge no one and accept everyone. Also, many of them lost like, a third of their friends to AIDs when they were my age. I appreciate their nuanced perspectives, their wild stories, and their radical acceptance even if I don't always agree with everything they say-how boring would that be?
I've never gone to a gay bar because I feel like I shouldn't be there as a straight person really, it's not my place to roam around. I'd only go if I was invited by friends who are LGBTQ+ but even then I'd be a little uncomfortable. It just seems a bit out of place, and I don't want to really intrude on people their nice evening you know :(
I’ve actually only been to a gay bar once— the patrons made it very, VERY clear that as a straight woman, I had absolutely no business being there, so I’ve never gone again.
From gay men or women? Both?
It was men and whew they were a bit more hostile than was necessary imo lololol but that was my bad—I don’t blame them for wanting a het-free space. The funny thing is that I would never even think of going into a lesbian bar? Like I know better, so I don’t know what I was thinking that one time.

hersplendidness

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jinjjaaa

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hersplendidness

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thank you. you have plenty of other places you can go.

madhler

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hersplendidness

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jinjjaaa

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hersplendidness

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hersplendidness

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idk if you live in/near a big city, but they usually have "gay friendly" bars and then "gay bars". see if you can do some research and find the ones that are gay friendly. it will have a safer vibe then a normal bar and you'll be welcome.
maybe i'm just too dykey looking to be bothered by cishet men but all the shit I've gotten in (queer) bars have been from cishet women.

this reminded that the other day I walked past this place downtown were there were two bars, one gay bar on one side of the street and a lesbian bar on the other side. the gay bar was paaaacked and the lesbian bar seemed to be permanently closed :( i hate how often this happens, there are so few lesbian bars/clubs out there and the pandemic probably caused most of them to shut down :(
and lesbians have been a huge part of lgbt history as well but that gets forgotten
I went to visit some of my friends in San Francisco who are gay men, and they took me on a quest to find a lesbian bar. Admittedly, they just might not have been tuned in enough, but we could not find one in either San Francisco or Oakland!

At least most of the women I met in the gay bars were gay too, which hasn't been my experience in other cities. But still, I thought of all places there'd be a lesbian bar there. 😢
As of April, there were 16 lesbian bars left in the US vs 200 in the late 80's.
That’s so depressing :(
that is sf miserable
ok i thought it was just me but in the past few years but especially lately now that bars and clubs are open there have been a flood of straight people in gay spaces. Which I get the argument of having a safe space but I've seen some straight women do some heinous shit at bars. My one friend was making out with a guy and this women comes up and is like can I take a picture while you all makeout. Like, this is not some exotic zoo for you to play in. i feel like it's just a product of rupaul and gay culture hitting mainstream
"can I take a picture while you all makeout"

What..the... so creepy
I don't trust straight girls that watch Drag Race.
I know! And because they bring business, more often the gay bars become regular bars. You'd really feel like the new audience there wants to gawk at you while pretending to enjoy the culture they desperately want to destroy.
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