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Coroner Reveals Cause of Gabby Petito's Death



A Teton County coroner has revealed the cause and manner of Gabby Petito's death and how long her body lay in the Wyoming countryside.

Details behind the cut. [Warning, violence]The cause of death was strangulation, the manner was homicide, and her body lay in the woods for 3-4 weeks before discovery.

Her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie, allegedly fled from his parents' home in Florida shortly after authorities began searching for Gabby. The couple was traveling by van across the Western U.S.

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I just began reading about this last week and apparently there was confusion about his age. Ppl thought he was 28 fsr.

analievelyn

October 13 2021, 03:17:39 UTC 5 days ago Edited:  October 13 2021, 03:23:14 UTC

OP,FYI your cut is broken
fixed it!
he looks 38.
I'll say it again. Fire the cops that let her die.
It's the least they could do to people who don't do their jobs.
This didn't have to happen. There was more than enough proof she needed help.
Cops only protect and serve their own, anyone else, nah.
I wonder if those cops will actually be fired considering all the attention and the fact that the victim was a young white girl.

I really fucking hope so
I doubt it. At most they go on paid leave while it's "investigated" and the department concludes that, while the outcome was ~unfortunate, it's a tough job and they followed procedure.

analievelyn

5 days ago

They won’t be. The Supreme Court ruled cops have no obligation to actually protect anyone.

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.
https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again

misato

4 days ago

glitterslugs

4 days ago

Especially when it comes to domestic abuse, cops are the most useless waste of space and funding.

I went with a family member to the cops after finding out her boyfriend hit her. The cops literally shrugged and were like, can't do anything unless you want to press charges or get a restraining order.

As if a restraining order actually keeps him physically away from her. Even giving us resources to reach out to or an abuse hotline would have helped a little.

analievelyn

5 days ago

mercuryfish

5 days ago

analievelyn

5 days ago

misato

4 days ago

vibeology_e

4 days ago

littleorcs

4 days ago

analievelyn

4 days ago

marwari_mettle

4 days ago

analievelyn

4 days ago

marwari_mettle

4 days ago

daijouboo

October 13 2021, 03:31:00 UTC 5 days ago Edited:  October 13 2021, 03:33:23 UTC

I tried watching that body cam footage of the incident in the park with them and the van. It's extremely jarring to compare it with literally any other video of cops interacting with people of color. Like, the cops in this video are practically deferential to Brian and of course bend over backwards to help Gabbie-as well they should have, she was clearly in distress. They have so much patience and talk about their own relationships etc. I just wish the same courtesy could be extended to non-white people in any other law enforcement situation.

moonisaballoon

5 days ago

daijouboo

5 days ago

I mean the Supreme Court ruled cops have no legal obligation to actually help anyone in a dangerous situation so, “protect and serve” lol

the NYC cops let a serial stabber slash a guy half the death on the subway and hid in the conductor’s cabin and let this dude get stabbed a ton of times before they decided the victim had softened the stabber up enough to come and help and when he tried to sue, lost big time bc the cops are legally speaking NOT here to help

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crystalzelda

5 days ago

archersangel

5 days ago

jinxeh13

4 days ago

lmao firing a cop is like trying to kill a cockroach, (but then again at least with the cockroach there's respect for his willing to survive. cops are just bastards.)
I genuinely don't know how these people (cops) go through life feeling fine that they've let so many men murder their wives or girlfriends. Same with parole boards that let men who have committed intimate partner murders and they immediately do it again.
i wish it would be a wake-up call to all white people (especially white women) that bend over backwards to defend the police that no, actually, they don’t really give a shit about you either. cops aren’t your friends and while they might not all be intentionally malicious, the number of them that are downright incompetent is staggering. like if you look at a lot of unsolved crimes, especially violent crimes against women, they’re not unsolved because the criminals were brilliant masterminds who covered their tracks, they’re unsolved because the police fucked up.

ahkna

4 days ago

Her cause of death makes sense considering how great a predictor of homicide it is in dv relationships

Sad stat below


[Spoiler (click to open)]

Strangulation victims are 750% more likely to be killed than victims who have never been strangled, according to The Training Institute on Strangulation Prevention, a California-based program.

Idk if this phrasing makes sense but like…it’s so, so sad and distressing that we have a statistic like that period
It makes sense to me 🤷🏿‍♀️

But yes, it's is a major indicator.
strangulation should be its own category of crime given how serious an indicator it is of further violence and murder. idt it's taken seriously enough in the eyes of the law or the police (obviously given the content of this post)

analievelyn

5 days ago

itsme_eloise

5 days ago

petecarl

5 days ago

baekpedaling

5 days ago

petecarl

4 days ago

youidiotkid

4 days ago

Yep, nurses in my state want it to quit being overlooked.

https://crosscut.com/2020/02/spokane-nurses-want-strangulation-stop-being-overlooked-domestic-violence-cases

This came out shortly before COVID, so idk if there has been any follow up.
yep, here strangulation triggers a sane case even in the absence of concomitant sexual assault for just that reason.
Yep, strangulation is the ultimate last act of control. it's so horrendous, they get to literally squeeze the life out of you.
Men absolutely LOVE to kill women this way because it's extremely intimate, it takes a long time, and they get to watch her die slowly.

If a man chokes you during sex, girls, get the fuck out right now and do not look back.

mangosmuggler

4 days ago

ahkna

3 days ago

And that stat is why choking in porn is so disturbing to me. It normalizes something that is so dangerous.
Looks like I have more processing to do. I was assaulted by someone I was on a date with and I guess I downplayed the danger I was in. He had his hands around throat and was throttling me. It's been 15 years but I keep finding I've been repressing parts of the incident. Jesus.
not surprising at all considering at one point in the bodycam footage she states that he grabbed her face hard enough to leave marks.

i don't doubt the results of the autopsy, but how does a coroner determine definitively that she was strangled when she was left in the wilderness for almost a month? wouldn't it be difficult to see soft tissue damage at that point? :s
There might be bone damage/breaks that are consistent/can only be explained by strangulation.
I know one way that they determine that is by looking at the hyoid bone in the neck to see if it is broken. That bone is rarely broken/fractured in the typical ways that people may fracture something. But is commonly fractured as a result of strangulation.
If there's no broken bones, they can still find blood clots and damage in the deeper tissues of the throat.
Strangulation breaks bones and blood vessels that leave behind evidence.

aliceofclubs

October 13 2021, 03:26:28 UTC 5 days ago Edited:  October 13 2021, 03:26:50 UTC

I just saw the body-cam footage earlier today, from when they were stopped on the highway.

this is so distressing, why didn't they arrest him then
> why didn't they arrest him then

bc they do the same at home (grabbing hard enough to leave marks, probably choking) to their own wives and girlfriends and thought nothing of it.
Domestic abuse isn’t taken seriously, violence against women isn’t a priority, they both allege they were violent towards each other (which ignores that abuse victims can retaliate/defend themselves which does NOT make them abusive in return), white privilege, male privilege, some sort of misguided “let’s not make a bad situation worse with arrests when a bit of time apart will let cooler heads prevail” which really doesn’t work with DV - goes to the crux off the matter that if you’re not trained to recognize the patterns (she’s upset, he’s calm, he won’t talk until he knows what she’s saying, she doesn’t want to press charges even though a disinterested third party called 911 saying he was slapping her) which all point towards abuse, you’re going to miss shit like this.

Do I think the cops thought he was going to kill her? No, I don’t. Do I think if they’d been actually trained to interact with DV cases they might have seen the signs? I do. Maybe we should invest in that instead of brand new AK-47s or something. Also, I think they were park rangers, not police? If you interact with the public in ANY kind of law enforcement, you should know this shit.
I think, ultimately, cops would have to care about domestic violence first and even with proper training, they literally just don't.
Most of the fucking world doesn’t have a division for hate crimes against women, except Canada does and I think parts of the Netherlands. With incels multiplying like crazy and gunning down women in attacks on women more and more (Atlanta Spa shootings are Asian hatred but the media ignores the women part of it all), the US still doesn’t give a shit about women. We are raped and sexually abused and yet crimes against women are still NOT CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME.
They didn’t arrest him because she literally said she hit him? I get that it’s distressing, but the cops basically did what they’re suppose to do which is de-escalate and make them go to separate places

ahkna

4 days ago

crystalzelda

4 days ago

colorheartsgrey

4 days ago

not gonna read the post but thank you for the update, OP.
arrest his parents
indict the cops
end the boyfriend
He has to be dead if they haven’t caught him, right?
He’s a huge naturalist who has previously camped in the woods for months on end.

I was in Moab like, 2 days after them. Went to the blue ridge mountains last weekend. Nature is fucking MASSIVE. You really can’t comprehend how goddamn big this country is until you drive for 6 hours to go from the tail end of nowhere only to end at the ass end of nowhere with like, one gas station in between. He’s got a head start, money, gear and the know how to exist in nature for prolonged periods of time. Odds are good this fucker is alive and kicking in the Appalachians.
jesus that sounds like a horror movie plot
“He’s a huge naturalist who has previously camped in the woods for months on end.”

It seems like most people doubt any of that is true. There’s a difference between “van life” and actually surviving in the wild.

halloween1978

4 days ago

evilgerbil

4 days ago

Probably dead, but then I think about how Eric Rudolph was able to live in the woods in North Carolina for a few years. I don't know if there are enough things for him to scavage or clean enough water where he's at if he's still in Florida.

archersangel

5 days ago

syvlie0o0

4 days ago

I haven’t been following closely but I had the same thought.

Is the other theory that his parents helped him escape to the wilderness and he’s just roughing it in nature and making some kind of getaway off the grid?

One of the early reports when they were looking for him I (probably unsupported by the info available) sensed they were searching in a manner expecting to find his body not him hiding out.
i think he's dead tbh
He had such a head start that it wouldn't be super hard for him to disguise himself somehow, I think
Nah, his parents helped him escape

akty52

4 days ago

likeiused2

4 days ago

He's a weird survivalist so I don't know. As more time passes it makes the most sense that he's dead but I also feel like if he was dead he would have been found by now? He strangled his girlfriend, stole her van and used her credit card to fund his return trip home then went about life like nothing happened, even going on a family camping trips where he posed for cutesy photos with his nephews. He doesn't strike me as the type to harm himself.

rubie_dubidoux

5 days ago

harrys_headband

5 days ago

ahkna

4 days ago

sglitzys

4 days ago

he’s hiding somewhere thanks to his mommy and daddy’s help
one the one hand, since dead bodies can't conceal themselves by moving around then I feel like if he is dead then he'll be found sooner than if he's alive/moving around to avoid getting caught

on the other hand, we live in a world of surveillance and computerization so his only real option for evading capture is remaining in the wilderness for literally forever. it's a hell of a lot harder to go start a new life now than it was for John List. even the Unabomer eventually got caught! if I had just murdered my girlfriend and didn't want to kill myself and I had as much of a headstart on anyone suspecting anything as he did, I would've gotten onto a flight to a country that doesn't have an extradition agreement (or doesn't have one for potential death penalty cases - does Wyoming have the death penalty?? idk) rather than try to rough it indefinitely, which kinda makes me think he just went and killed himself. he would've had to do it in or near Florida though, otherwise he'd be caught on gas station tapes and whatnot and idk how easily it is to remain hidden in the wilderness in Florida (as opposed to like, wherever they found Forest Fenn's treasure)

missmagic12

4 days ago

He's either dead or has gotten extremely lucky.
I mean I know they have to check this nature reserve since that’s where his parents said he was going, but good god, he had a four day head start and his parents were clearly in on it, so I tend to not believe that he went there at all. With four days, sadly he could be anywhere.
there are loads of tiktok videos that think his sister his hiding him up in her loft/attic
I guess it depends on the man power they have looking for him.
I read an article and a lot of expert survivalists were saying he is either at the tail end of his ability to survive out there, dead, or not there because that terrain is especially difficult with the wildlife and bugs and swampland.
His parents only recently being like “oopsie doodle we meant September 13th not 14th” re: the last day they saw brian is ASTOUNDING

How do you not know the last day you saw your kid when he’s missing? If my child would missing I’d be obsessing over the day
They’re def trying to save him

I bet he came home, told them what happened, got a head start and took off. ugh it gets me so angry
some people are speculating he's hiding in a bunker in a backyard because drone footage shows the mom in the garden and what looks like a hand reach out and her something.

dumpweeds

5 days ago

frejasface

5 days ago

xbenji65

5 days ago

joe_pwnz_pete

5 days ago

kkslider

5 days ago

Holy shit, I had not heard that. His parents can rot alongside him.
his parents are POS. i hope they suffer and wish them the worst.
Notes to my future children: I will turn you in for murder
This entire case has been so upsetting. Seeing how calm he was with the cops contrasted with how distraught she was should have tipped them off. Don’t they have training for domestic issues? Reactive abuse is a thing and that entire incident was a giant red flag.
I can’t get over how useless the cops were. they still let her leave with him despite there being signs of abuse. They failed her and now she has become another victim that has lost their life

Reading the headlines this morning left me feeling queasy. This monster offed himself in the woods by now bc people like him don’t ever want to face the consequences so they take the easy way out
This is exactly why cops shouldn't be sent out to handle domestic violence calls, we need people who are actually trained and could fucking SEE the signs of her distress and know what to do. Cops never do anything of use when it comes to these calls.

It's heartbreaking.
It really fucked me up watching the cops take her at face-value when she, whilst distraught and clearly traumatised, deferred to blaming herself for the situation escalating in that video. Like wtf you dipshits, that is symptomatic of a cycle of abuse that she would be so ready to say it was something she did that caused it to get physical. Meanwhile fucknut is jovially having a chin wag with the other cops.

I mean, at that point is it even fucking critical thinking????
It's not surprising and yet it's not any less heart wrenching. I hope everyone involved in this situation gets what they deserve.
that piece of shit and his parents are going to hell
This hearts my heart so much. I knew it the fucking instant I watched the dash-cam footage. It was so familiar, how they make you look like the one who’s hysterical and out of control while they act completely stoic and unaffected. He was probably furious with her for “being so emotional that it got them in trouble with the cops.” Just a guess based on personal experience,

I hope he and his family rot in jail.

vamatelf

October 13 2021, 04:20:56 UTC 5 days ago Edited:  October 13 2021, 04:22:14 UTC

Same. Triggered a dissociative episode for me. Knew for certain that poor girl wasn’t alive anymore.
I’m so sorry. I know this story has been deeply affecting me, too. Love to you, friend 💜
I hope he's dead

I don’t, not yet anyway. I want to see Justice for Gabby and her family, and then the inmates can have their way with him and his parents.

If he is dead, I at the very least hope his parents are held to account for Gabby and her family's sake.
I feel like he's probably dead but I want him caught because I want him to have to face what he has done.

People have been really gross about this case though, don't forget a young woman died.

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