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BTS named South Korea's "Special Presidential Envoy for Future Generations and Culture"


💜 President Moon Jae-in appointed kings of kpop BTS as his special envoy for public diplomacy

💜 The members of the group will attend major international meetings, including the 75th session of the U.N. General Assembly in New York in September

💜 Blue House spokesperson Park Kyung-mee said BTS will send a message of consolation and hope for the youth around the world and also join various activities on such issues as the environment, poverty, inequality and respect for diversity.


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The government needs to milk them as much as possible before the wave of enlistment starts and they lose their popularity.

Will they be attending this in person or is it all online?
Some reports mentioned they will go to New York, some didn't. There hasn't been confirmation yet.
....respect for diversity?

*insert Eartha Kitt laughing gif*
This makes me think of some Blackpink video for I think the UN or something too that was essentially like ‘we watched a documentary and learned so much about the environment, we need to protect the environment ☺️’ and I think it was the most underwhelmed I’ve ever felt in my life
right, when it comes to groups like bts and blackpink I'd rather they say nothing at all then try to partake in conversations like these where they've got nothing to offer. im puzzled as to why their teams don't prepare them beforehand or do they just not bother bcus they think "ah their audience is too young to care much anyway"
Exactly! I was excited going into it thinking they’d have something substantial to share, and have some kind of actionable campaign or something but nope. Why even bother then?!
that is literally what i was thinking! it's very obviously a ploy to be looking like you're doing the right thing without any accountability or action needing to be done. ok, you're talking about diversity but what are you actually doing, besides being colorist towards each other? you're talking about the environment but all four have multiple fashion deals and are jetsetting.

it's just so transparent and yet it works every time. fwiw i feel like american celebrities often have to demonstrate what they're doing with concrete numbers, so i wish it was the same in this case. could even be a charity single! anything!

umhowabout_no

2 weeks ago

they're obviously trying to get them an exemption lol

but anyways i only came to say that i saw a gif of the mask removal the other day and i can't believe they didn't get any shit for it but jennie got all that hate for dressing as a nurse 💀
I wonder how BTS's rise specifically is going to impact the issue of diversity and how to deal with diversity in SK. Because again, 99.99% of kpop groups have been in some serious mess when it comes to racism issues but now that kpop is a lot more global (I remember how rampant blackface was in 09 lol), KPOP and SK society will be a lot more scrutinized especially with this type of government backing. Like, Korea is always in this weird timeline of extreme and rapid growth economically but then still trying to adapt with social issues like the effects of colonialism, occupation, war and now COVID and a lot more international interest in kpop and kdramas (but not necessarily korean culture and history). Even now there's a huge housing issue with more foreign english teachers hoarding temporary housing that was originally meant for temp domestic workers.
Ive not heard of this, how are they hoarding housing? Don’t they just live in regular apartments amongst Koreans like everyone else?
The issue is mostly with officetels/studio apartments that are popular with foreigners bc you get better facilities in accessible areas without having to commit to the 2 year lease that is usually the renting system in korea/seoul. Like someone corrected below, foreign teachers usually access housing through their employers so I was wrong about that and I thought it was exclusively because of english teachers but the officetel hoarding is mostly a problem with foreign students or western immigrants who are planning on staying in korea for a year or less. The issue is that housing is already very limited especially in Seoul and officetels were originally meant for local professionals who needed more convenient housing especially in downtown areas to cut commute time. There are a lot more people than officetels available and with the growing number of temporary foreigners using them up, locals have a harder time finding housing in city centers.

vina_3

1 week ago

Idols now have some sort of sensitive training programs in some companies (JYp comes to mind) and the ones who are aiming for foreign market are kindaaa trying but it feels very contrived. I mean, for the general public in SK feminist is still a controversial word, that's why the girl crush concept wave is so weird. It's the empowerment trend without the (very shallow) social comment we get in western pop music. I feel like this sort of cultural difference is hard to manage even if by some miracle an idol is actually socially aware (but I honestly can't think of a single one who has positioned themselves like that). Playing both markers is harder than it seems and at the end of the day idols know the Korean market is where they'll have longevity.
Outside of ONTD and OMONA (rip), has any of these appropriation and racist issues been on the media?

I remember Mammamoo in blackface, has there been any other issue that has caused actual attention from reports that are not an ontd original?
Even now there's a huge housing issue with more foreign english teachers hoarding temporary housing that was originally meant for temp domestic workers.

i haven't heard of this? foreign english teachers get apartments provided by their schools and they're usually on long-term leases from the school or the school owns them ie a teacher stays for a year and then the next teacher moves into that same apartment once the previous teacher left.

vanilla_09

1 week ago

Tbh, idk if it impacts anything. Companies STILL ignore international fans when they bring up issues of racism, cultural appropriation, and like issues. And from what I’ve seen, Koreans get angry when it is brought up for international fans (tho let a dating rumor come out and companies act like their assets are on fire, despite some groups financial intake being mostly from international fans).

If HYBE can’t properly deal with one member of a group singing the n word (not a peep, not even a denial), or flops in an attempted apology about some speech put into a song that shouldn’t be there (if my guys has to post a hand written apology for going out with friends, the least HYBE could have done was a typed up apology from the artist, not the company). So if you take this as a basis for how they’ll deal with things Nd how it’ll shape BTS going forward… idk.

As long as SK isn’t throwing a fit, BTS won’t have any criticism, esp since I-fans wouldn’t dare speak against anything they do.

But as of now, it doesn’t seem like it’s caused any change.
these people?



When I first saw V and J-Hope, I couldn’t see them because they were too black.
Yeah when the nights get too dark I couldn’t find them
Maybe it just doesn’t translate well into English because obviously none of the members have even a tint of darkness to them.

Maybe they were in the shadows when they first met and it was night time?
they've referred to each other with the korean equivalent of nigga, called one member a maori chief because he has darker skin and a bunch of other stuff

i wouldn't bother thinking they meant well tbh

whysogayprop8

2 weeks ago

i think koreans have a different perception of what is dark and what isn't when it comes to skin tone. i've seen this "joke" so many times by other kpop idols towards anyone that is slightly tan. but this instance is particularly odd considering rm isn't that much lighter than jhope and v
even being a slightly darker than uber-pale shade gets you colorists jokes in korea. they're not the only group that's done this... actually i'm struggling to think of one that hasn't
colorism is prevalent in south korea. makeup products and skincare often has lightening/whitening properties :/
I always thought this was just kinda sad because namjoon is clearly the darkest member. It strikes me as internalized colorism more than anything. But the paler members are also fan favorites so this sort of thing is buried FOR REAL when it's one of them.

pwrpuffgrl

2 weeks ago

that gif is so old it’s crazy how much things changed
Urgh i guess the fans will be even more insufferable now.
they're 100% getting an exemption lol
enlist already
At this point, if they wait another year, or whatever, my faves will be coming back as they’re going in. I’ll deal with army bragging over the delay if it means I can get a NCT comeback without BTS coming back at the same time. There’s always too much toxicity when they line up comebacks like that.
It’s funny that army, particularly the non korean ones living in middle america, act more prideful about Bangroon 5 being government pawns than their own korean fans but threw a hissy fit when Olivia Rodrigo got invited to the White House. Probably because they’ve spent the last month acting like all her streams are paid for and no one in america could possibly know who she is if BTS are #1!!1!!1! They even started to veer into anti-vax conspiracy.


Anyways, they’re probably gonna get an exemption but lord knows everyone who isn’t a delusional army wants them to fuck off for 2 years.
Why so aggressive tho?
Why not?
They stan someone else. Maybe that affects them.

pwrpuffgrl

1 week ago

rainstormraider

1 week ago

these guys are so embarrassing. i really don't understand how they chart so well. the only time i ever hear anyone talk about them is to mention how much they hate their music.
they chart well because their stans have an organized chart manipulation programme ready at all times. its impressive. makes u wonder what these people could achieve if they put that effort into something productive
Like that time I read about them spamming certain hashtags last year, you know, and racism was defeated. But for real, if only you could harness that collective effort and energy and put it to good use.

sirlolsworthy

1 week ago

Hope this means next time some problematic American politician shows up, SK doesn’t call EXO. I still have nightmares of them having to meet Trump a few years ago. Leave the politics stuff to BTS and call EXO (or anyone else) when someone cool shows up.
Ah, you’re an EXO-L, this makes sense.
Not really. I like them, but they aren’t the fandom(s) I identify with. I thought this whole site knew I was a Monbebe/wenee/NCTzen?

rainstormraider

1 week ago

slaygalthessily

1 week ago

I’d heard of this group only very vaguely until late last year, when their English-language song became an ear worm of sorts. Late to this post, but having skimmed through the messy history posts recently, what is the tea with this group in general? Are they actually popular or is it just their fanbase being super loud?
They're popular enough to sell out stadiums around the world but still enough of a niche interest that most media still talk about them like they're novelty (they've been going for 8 years and done 4 of US promo) and they're not really relevant to the general public. It's really just that their fanbase on social media is very loud and very organized because the group encourages that sort of obsessive behavior.
That’s interesting and similar to what I had thought, and you’re right - people / media are still ‘discovering’ them despite their long history. I suppose the group’s label is also encouraging the group to encourage the fanbase? I’ve seen some comments on YouTube and twitter and they seem very full on.

sirlolsworthy

1 week ago

rainstormraider

1 week ago

erstwhile_jab

1 week ago

rainstormraider

1 week ago

erstwhile_jab

1 week ago

dalpaengi

1 week ago

rainstormraider

1 week ago

the comments in this point, you could make food with all that salt.
I’d be less salty if the sweet n low apologized directly about the jim jones fiasco. If he had family in guyana that lived with the aftermath of that tragedy he’d be writing “salty” diss tracks and vent tracks for all his mixtapes

shawarmafordays

July 28 2021, 07:35:32 UTC 1 week ago Edited:  July 28 2021, 10:24:54 UTC

Oh I definitely think Suga should have apologized for the Jim Jones fiasco. He shouldn't have hidden behind the agency when everyone expected better of him. But the way ONTD is doing a deep dive for BTS' controversies is quite telling about the community's attitude towards Asians and its always the same group of users.

You can criticize a band and have your opinions but when you're constantly making targeted posts like while every other white celeb walk around without people deriding their success and achievements by bringing up their problematic post, it makes you wonder who is this for, exactly?

dalpaengi

1 week ago

shawarmafordays

6 days ago

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