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French celebrities and Charlie Hebdo tweet against decapitation of professor



Samuel Paty was a professor who used Charlie Hebdo religious caricatures as examples of freedom of expression on his lectures, because of this, the history teacher received threats since showing the caricatures to pupils around 10 days ago.

The suspect of beheading the professor, an 18-year-old, was shot dead by police following the knife attack, outside a school in a Paris suburb on Friday evening. The teen posted a photo of the teacher's body on Twitter shortly before, claiming responsibility for the killing.

Authorities have arrested 9 suspects, investigated for possible links to Islamic extremism. The attack is believed to be terror related, motivated after Mr Paty discussed caricatures of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad with his class.

The parent of a student had filed a complaint against the teacher, and the teacher’s information started to appear online, prior to the threats and attack.

A national tribute will be paid to Mr Paty.











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Jesus how tragic!
Lit said those words while reading this.

I've always thought anyone who has it in them to kill someone is fucked up, but i think the ones that do some sort of beheading are even worse, cause you have to be reaaaaally fucked up to stand all that goes on through that horrible scene.

Hope his killer ass rots in hell.
Oh god. I can't see this going well for Muslims/BIPOC in France. Afaik tensions are already high and France is racist af to begin with, and I've heard things have steadily been getting worse for a while now. RIP Samuel Paty.

trancexperiment

October 17 2020, 19:53:58 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  October 17 2020, 20:34:01 UTC

I agree, i was going to say I don’t need to see tweets by racist French people using this as an excuse to shit on brown Muslims even more.

Edit: Hey fortunebombney, you want to tell me why you disagree with the notion that French people use Islamaphobia to be racist against brown Muslims?
thats where im at tbh.
Basically
First thing I thought.
so weird that's your first thought and not the guy who was beheaded for simply doing his job
Why?

sh0ckeye

1 month ago

quixotomy

1 month ago

This is fucking wild. That poor man and his family.
On Reddit they were saying you could find pics on Twitter of the head on the pavement :(
The suspected killer posted the picture to his own Twitter before being apprehended :(

Per the Associated Press:

The prosecutor said a text claiming responsibility and a photograph of the victim were found on the suspect's phone. He also confirmed that a Twitter account under the name Abdoulakh A belonged to the suspect.

[Description-Graphic] It posted a photo of the decapitated head minutes after the attack, along with the message, "I have executed one of the dogs from hell who dared to put Muhammad down."
I saw it on Reddit earlier today...the NSFW filter wasn’t working on the app I use. It was horrific
Is this a thing? Bc I use mobile and get the blur function but now I’m afraid to go on Reddit today.

colorfilm

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trancexperiment

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colossusx

1 month ago

Same it was HORRIFYING
The decapitated head was on the front page of reddit all morning. There's no blur on mobile unless you click the post, either.

trancexperiment

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neversohonest

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jesus christ
Don't say this people will search for it now.

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vervain

1 month ago

ilovespooons

1 month ago

That's horrifying. Religion causes so much needless suffering.
It's safe to say this kid didn't know much about Islam, he was just another lost boy.
They never do. It's just always weird entitled macho bullshit in these cases.
Don't call him a lost boy, please. His actions had nothing to do with being a believer og Islam but he was not a fucking lost boy.

shittysoup

October 17 2020, 21:14:43 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  October 17 2020, 21:15:05 UTC

Yeah...I don't know how I feel about calling men who commit horrific and malicious acts of violence "lost boys".
Yeah, no...men who commit horrific crimes are not just some "lost boys". That trivializes their crime. I hate when they do this every time there's a school shooting too.
yeah, let's not do this. fuck him.
this is tragic but did he need to use pictures shitting on a persecuted religion in class like... choices.
Sure, blame the murder victim.

This is tragic would’ve sufficed.
Seriously wtf
lol people go out of their fucking way to just shit and shit on muslims and shit on their traditions for a point and nothing gets reported and now this is the greatest tragedy. he sowed clear segregation in the classroom having the muslim kids leave while he showed this bullshit to impressionable mind. miss me.

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bangorilla

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kinkiestofboots

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Stop.

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slaughtermatic

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Unpopular, but I agree. It wasn't necessary, and could have put his students at risk. I don't understand why people think "teaching" excuses disrespect.
IMO, it's similar to teachers using the nword in class and/or allowing their students, for historical purposes or what the fuck ever. It's not necessary and they should know it will make people feel ostracized.

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parachuteending

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neversohonest

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parachuteending

1 month ago

people really desperate to have a hot take and just end up showing their ass, huh?

ritaamber

1 month ago

why, though? he wasn't plastering the caricatures around town, it was a class on free speech that people choose to attend. no one forced them to be there, surely.

matsjhummels

1 month ago

shittysoup

1 month ago

The guy got fucking beheaded

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colossusx

1 month ago

No.
Do you think the teacher was mocking or insulting Islam and the prophet? If he did, he deserved it? But you really don't know what he said. Maybe he just showed several pictures of different religions without mocking them or insulting them.

Yet you're here in this post making excuses about his violent murder.

You are a disgusting pos.

slaughtermatic

1 month ago

su_metal

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slaughtermatic

1 month ago

as a muslim AND as a history teacher: he showed the pictures as an example of how far free speech can go and to create a dialogue on what is ethical and what isn't. he asked muslim students in their class if they were willing to see it or not, and that they had permission to stand outside for a bit til the pictures were gone. some students waited outside the classroom, some stayed inside. i genuinely don't know how he could've done things better, he went for the approach i myself go for when i have to teach the evolution theory.

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ionadelfina

1 month ago

Ffs look at yourself
garbage take
" like... choices"

loooooooool imagine writing that down
this is tragic BUT

lol, what a reaction.
This is beyond a bullshit take. How can you even think this after someone was beheaded in the name of that persecuted religion for showing a picture?
wtf is wrong with you
I get what you are trying to say.
If I as a teacher showed these pictures I would most likely get in trouble at work.
Because they are offensive pictures.
You can discuss the pictures and freedom of speech without showing the pictures.
I would see your reasoning under normal circumstances, but this is not the place.

slaughtermatic

1 month ago

paceyringwald

1 month ago

😧 horrifying....
Before ONTD or anyone tries to be like oh he’s being disrespectful towards Islam - students, including Muslim students said the professor first told them that if they feel uncomfortable about this they are free to leave the classroom and showed it to them to prepare them for what they may encounter.
We use Ewan McGregor memes to make fun of Jesus and that should be game for any fairytale mascerading as a religion. Like pls prophets are like tarot cards level. No one should Fucking die from this and this is true for any religion.
I wish secularism would go further. So many innocent lives have been lost due to this bs. And before any Christians try to claim that’s different let’s remind them of the crusades. And before Hindus try to distance themselves from this let’s remind them of Kashmir.
Wow...fairy tales is in itself disrespectful, what are you going for?

Christians by and large, don't have any reverance for their own faith, that's why no one gets up in arms much these days about Jesus being mocked or caricatured. Islam has always revered all their prophets, and you KNOW it's a big deal. So why go there?
All religions are fairy tales. What the actual hell?

kerrigwen

1 month ago

kinkiestofboots

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syvlie0o0

1 month ago

If you do not believe in religion, you believe every religious text to be full of made up stories. That’s what fairytales are.

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fernandocolunga

October 17 2020, 20:45:25 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  October 17 2020, 20:48:47 UTC

Oh I’m sorry I’m supposed to believe messages ~angels** shared with a shepherd forever ago are not fairytales? Pls.

Christians by and large, don't have any reverance for their own faith, that's why no one gets up in arms much these days about Jesus being mocked or caricatured.
This generalisation. Girl evangelical Christians have so much reverence for their faith it is sick and unhealthy. In fact in the case of SOME Jews the reverence they have for their religion led to genocide in Palestine. And why single out Christians? It could be true for some of them but I’m sure that’s not the case for every single religion. And how much you revere your religion isn’t some competition that grants you immediate access to paradise.

“Islam has always revered all their prophets...”
Lmao ok good for them? I’m not religious so I’m not sure why the same should apply to me? Like if you wanna follow what a bunch of ancient dudes have to say that’s on you not on me. The wonderful prophet Muhammad couldn’t bother to name one woman save for Jesus’ mom (lol) in his entire holy book. So I’ll pass on his wisdom thanks
They didn’t seem to respect the opinion of this teacher, they probably wouldn’t mine as well, so idk why I’m supposed to bother with theirs.
Certain sects of Christianity are incredibly reverent toward their faith/practices/etc. It just depends on which ones. Nondenominational Christianity? Probably not. Mormons? Super reverent. Evangelicals? Super reverent.

And yes all religion is fairy tales in the end.

Source: my bachelors degree in religion.

syvlie0o0

1 month ago

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ferelden

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ferelden

1 month ago

they're literally fairy tales though lol

elderpricely

1 month ago

No one should have died, this shouldn't have happened.

The pictures are however offensive and hurtful to Muslims. No matter what your take on it is, it is hurtful to THEM.
Don't dismiss something just because you don't understand it.

syvlie0o0

1 month ago

fruitymangoes

1 month ago

"professor first told them that if they feel uncomfortable about this they are free to leave the classroom and showed it to them to prepare them for what they may encounter."

See, this is what I don't get. He WAS being respectful. If he said that to me, I'd just leave the class. The killer chose to stay then got all offended over it. I don't agree with your take religion as a fairytale but each to their own.

Islam never has and still doesn't portray The Prophet's likeness, that is why it's extra offensive to us. But I wouldn't kill a professor over it. The most devout Muslim student would make a complaint.

sh0ckeye

1 month ago

paceyringwald

1 month ago

Pure evil.
This is a tragedy, and I hope it is not used against the muslim communitty :(
You know it will be, esp in France. They relish the chance to use "Islamist" extremist. 🙄

hamnoo

October 18 2020, 07:29:27 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  October 18 2020, 07:47:22 UTC

I get why this murder is a horrible opening for more societal islamophobia and racism but why shouldn't he be called an islamist extremist? Does he need to have connections to organized Islamist terror for that? I thought Islamist was the term for extremists who misuse the Muslim religion as reason for enacting terror?
This is horrifying.
there should be no place for religious extremism in the 21st century. If the media had any integrity left they'd show the caricatures everywhere - show these people that acts like this and Charlie Hebdo only lead to more "blasphemy". Cowering only proves them right.

it's ridiculous and barbaric that someone can get beheaded over showing some dumb art.
What is the point of showing them everywhere, though? Why is it special? You are doing something disrespectful to all Muslims, just to offend the extremists and 'show them you don't care'? That will never have the effect you want, and the other Muslims should not be given the message that no one cares.
Genuine question. Do most Muslims believe its not right to show the caricatures?

kerrigwen

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neversohonest

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ritaamber

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paceyringwald

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ritaamber

1 month ago

paceyringwald

1 month ago

I mean you and some others in here essentially blaming the teacher for getting himself murdered isn't exactly disproving my statement.

spellgabbana

October 17 2020, 20:43:30 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  October 17 2020, 20:50:38 UTC

do it to every religious figure. fuck men written about by other men in books being seen as more important than real life people living on this fucking earth. i should add that i don't want cartoons like that about any religious figures but more than that, i don't want people dead over religion anymore.

neversohonest

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neversohonest

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neversohonest

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backrolls

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spellgabbana

1 month ago

Wow...why not say the N word and fly the Nazi flag everywhere while you're at it, too?

Here's an idea....how about, try respecting people!

katheli

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kerrigwen

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spellgabbana

1 month ago

Sorry but this is a stupid take. Muslims do not have nearly as many protections as Christians in the west due to the orientalist and racist “othering” of brown/nonwhite Muslim people, so making fun of them on the same caliber as Christians is intellectually dishonest. Just say you hate Muslims and go.

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trancexperiment

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katheli

1 month ago

The fact that you can encourage the spreading of white supremacist, racist "caricatures" of Arabs and Muslims as some act of integrity, and people will support this position on here is sad.
Damn. RIP to the professor. Also, I really hope that there won't be an uptick of violence and racism against Muslim people in France.
This is horrifying...
oh God I made the HUGE mistake of seeing the pic on reddit and honestly DON'T DO IT. I'm already fucked up and it felt terrible
I cant believe how HQ it was
horrible just horrible. my brain didn't quite understood as real at first
I accidentally saw it yesterday and I will never forget seeing it. I wish I could get it out of my brain. So so so awful.
Yikes, I’m terrified to go anywhere on the internet now like Reddit and Twitter in case I accidentally come across it. Wtf is wrong with people that they cant put something like that under about a thousand ‘only click if you want to see this’ warnings :(

nutellawhore

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ritaamber

1 month ago

There's this intrusive self destructive urge to go look, but I have to remind myself that it will add nothing to my life, only take.

So many times I've looked when I shouldn't have and only my forgetful depression-rotted brain saves me from picturing that shit every day for the rest of my life instead of the handful of days/weeks the image haunts me.

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