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Cards Against Humanity sent its only black writer to a mental institution for speaking about racism


  • Unsurprisingly, the majority of the white staff wanted the n-word in the game, Nicholas Carter was not okay with that.

  • He asked one of the co-founders, Max Temkin, about it - How did it happen? Instead, Temkin told the head writers to fire him.

  • They were surprised at his attitude change (being positive, having money, being outspoken), and so they committed him to a mental institution out of 'concern'.

  • The psychiatrist said he was being 'delusional', and would not release him until he agreed that yes, he was only imagining the racism.

  • Head writers Jo Feldman, Julia Weiss talked with COO Nick Markos a week after Nicholas was let out. They pretended they didn't know where he was.

  • The three told Nicolas he could return to Cards if he signed, essentially, an NDA and would 'confirm to behavioral requirements' because he had 'affected the energy of the room'. He did not sign, hence this article.

  • Nicolas was about to give his resignation. Weiss would beg him not to quit, saying the culture could change, and he withdrew it.

  • The three then fired him on a call later, claiming he quit on his own free will.

  • says "Only the most docile, loyal supporters of the company are promoted into positions of power." Which is unsurprising.

  • Honestly the entire tale is why I don't trust startups, and why white liberals are not automatically our friends.

  • The CAD team released a statement rebuffing a lot of statements in an article by a banned source. One of the aspects listed is "But we didn't SPELL OUT the n-word!"

  • Max Temkin has stepped down.


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I hope this can be posted bc it's horrendous. Burn your CAH cards and play apples to apple.

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I’m sorry what?????
That ws my fucking thought when I read this???? I didn't even know until someone pointed it out on CAH's shit response to it.
I’m truly speechless and disgusted like that’s such an extreme reaction to being called out for your lack of diversity
Seriously! this read like a bad movie plot! holy shit
This is the only response I had reading this whole thing.
I’m glad I never got into this stupid game but wow
same feelings here
same, I distrust white people with ~edgy humor
What???
Welp, never playing this again!
I read this earlier it was crazy! Can you just admit people like that??? I feel like I’ve known people really struggling with their mental health/addiction and the most their families have ever been able to get them placed somewhere involuntarily was 48 hours. And that it was a COWORKER vouching for behavior??? I do not know my coworkers well enough to even guess their mental state or feel comfortable enough to relay that info to a medical professional!!

Never played CAH. I’m too vanilla. Now I’m happy to not have supported this.
that part confused me as well
the father did ask that he seek help bc the company called his sister and fearmonger'd her into thinking he was erratic. He took him to the place but they had him committed instead.
I was under the impression it was very difficult to commit an adult without consent
"Andy reached out to my sister who was a senior in college. He told her that I was going to be disciplined at work for my behavior and could lose my job, which so frightened my parents that they drove from New York to Chicago overnight. My dad came to my apartment and asked me to “see someone.” I agreed, since I was imagining a therapist on a couch asking me if I was suicidal. He drove me to Illinois Masonic, where the combination of my parents’ concern and the collateral of a co-worker who was operating with the head writer were enough to have me forcibly kept there."

veritas_44

3 months ago

ekrelly

3 months ago

It’s not that hard

bluesforgotten

3 months ago

bananainpyjamas

June 29 2020, 03:08:45 UTC 3 months ago Edited:  June 29 2020, 03:10:08 UTC

My university in California managed to commit me to the locked inpatient ward at the university hospital "as a precaution" after I made ONE visit to campus mental health and expressed fleeting suicidal thoughts. I was a graduate student in my mid-20s, so very much an adult. Later I found out the university was extremely trigger happy when it came to any hint of the s-word because it wanted to maintain its "good" suicide stats (there was a whole NYT exposé a few years back about how this particular school handles mental health). My parents flew in and raised hell so I got out quickly, but if I didn't have them to advocate for me, I'm not sure what would have happened.

crash31

3 months ago

bananainpyjamas

3 months ago

nomoneyfun

3 months ago

bananainpyjamas

3 months ago

This is just my experience, but I've been committed several times without consent. We have something here in Louisiana call the Coroner's Emergency Certificate. It can be called a Physician's Emergency Certificate in other states. The CEC means they can keep you up to 15 days for observation. And I'm pretty sure they can keep you longer than that if the Coroner or Doctor thinks you need to be in there. It's some really scary, sketchy shit.
from knowing people who have been committed with no consent, it’s not difficult if you’re a woman or person of colour. i’ve known people who have been ripped from their homes out of nowhere bc some neighbour claimed there were “rumours” then got a family member involved

i’ve known someone who was gaslit and the family used that as a way to get them taken away for being too outspoken

and another teen was discovered to be on anti depressants, her mum sent her away asap. never saw her at school again after that

this is based on the uk but it’s beyond fucked up how it works

inwazyja

3 months ago

Not exactly the same but I got committed after being gaslit my youth group they kept telling me I had a eating disorder (I didn’t) but I was in a bad place and wanted them to accept me and stop treating me so terrible I eventually agreed. I was a minor so easier but I do wonder about more of the details. If they gaslit him or if he thought somehow it would help not his fault no matter what and fuck this game
There’s definitely more to both sides of that story. The company claims one of his co-workers and friends contacted his parents. It’s pretty damn hard to be committed unless family is involved. Is it possible? I’m sure it is. But.....unlikely.

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helenrdemeter

3 months ago

It sounds like the hospital fucked up too because in my experience unless you are a threat to yourself or someone else, you can sign yourself in voluntarily and leave when you want. At least that's how the locked psych unit at my hospital is.

bluesforgotten

3 months ago

I AM SHOOK. W - H A A AAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?
I have steadfastly avoided playing this game so many fucking times in my life because I saw an example card that made me uneasy. Any time it’s suggested, I do not trust the group I’m with to not include one person who will be terrible and use the game as an excuse for it. The fact that there is even a card with “the n-word” on it is nasty and dumb.
Startups are fucking toxic and this is disgusting. Glad he is exposing their gaslighting asses. Poor guy.
The FUCK?
what in the chingado hell
What??

Glad I've never played CAH and whenever I see photos people post of it I'm just like... OK?
Not surprising seeing that there's a card that says "big black dick"

I played once where I was the sole POC, I'll never play the game ever again. I only know white people that play it.


I still fuck with apples to apples though
Has this game ever been played with more than one black person? I'm guessing no.
I played once with two other black people but that must have been a rare unicorn

kobewife1

3 months ago

No when I played this I was the only black person usually...
i've also only played once with two black people but everyone else (except them and me) was white, and everyone but me were high or drunk lol

it was fun to play for the first time but definitely fits the edgy white-guy-with-a-guitar-at-a-party crowd (which there was one when i played as well)
now that you mention it...
Yeah. I've played and a bunch of other people I've played with are Black as well. Weirdos over here, I guess.
Same experience. I played once and was like hmm, never again. It's just white ppl being edgy, which to most of them means racist and homophobic.
I always liked apples to apples better because you can make your own jokes while CAH just tried to be as "edgy" as possible.
apples to apples is much better
The game is not funny at all, I don't understand how it's become the go-to party card game. I've played it maybe three times and was bored every time.
I find this thread fascinating. I'd never thought of it before, but the only time anyone irl has brought up this game have been white, in my experience.

That's probably what turned me off from ever trying it.
This is horrible. Most people I know never even want to play this game. It was only ever funny to hipster college students 15 years ago.
TW: suicidal ideation

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I had a loved one in another state that was suicidal and sent goodbye texts. her sister called me all frantic so i rushed home to "support."

we called the hotline for advice and we told them not to send the cops, but they sent them anyway. half a dozen. She's biracial fyi. They made the situation worse and handcuffed her and had their guns and shit.

Have yall ever called them for help and they just sent cops to the person's house? here
Yes, I've had a friend be committed against her will. Similar situation. She needed support, not to be imprisoned and plied with drugs against her will. She has PTSD from the whole experience (beyond what she already had)
im so sorry abt your friend <3 ive been hospitalized and it was a mess, but it wasnt forced so its not at all comparable
", I've had a friend be committed against her will. Similar situation." wait, are you saying you called for your friends and the cops committed her? or that you have a friend, and she was forcibly committed?
That is one of my fears and the last time I was suicidal for an extended period I had to beg friends to not call because I really didn't want to be committed. I needed to get my feelings out though; that is the rough aspect of being suicidal, you are always afraid to tell others.
From my experience if someone calls for a psychiatric eval or anything of the sort the cops always come with. And I would guess that majority of the time it makes it worse because they don't know how to handle those situations
I've heard about that happening. I know folks mean well, but I wish they would stop spreading those numbers everywhere.
the one time i called a suicide hotline, i told them very specifically that i was not planning to kill myself just yet but it was on my mind and i needed someone to talk to. i was lying but i was terrified they would send cops. they didn't send them thankfully.

cops are 110% not trained to handle suicidal people and should stay completely out of the process. they are agitators, not relief.
I had to call for work (used to work in mental health) and personally for my brother which was really hard bc on top of his severe anxiety he’s autistic and can’t communicate verbally very well. It was such a difficult and scary situation bc he was hurting himself to the point to where I couldn’t do anything to help him and he was going to cause significant harm and the cops definitely made things worse bc they just barked orders at him which made him hurt himself more. Issues like this (on top of racist police hurting BIPOC) are why I think we should defund.
I am so fucking sorry, bb. What a terrible position for all of you to be in. The systems for getting people "help" in this country are literally deadly, and that always has to be weighed when one is considering making a call.

My ex has bipolar disorder & alcoholism, & there were so many times where I feared for both of our lives, yet held out on calling the police or anyone else, because they're pretty notorious for killing people in crisis in our city. It's so messed up, especially when racism is involved. :/

Much love to you. <3
I had a very bad experience with that
At work I had to call 911 for an attempted suicide and they sent an ambulance. Months later someone called themselves and they sent police who had their guns on the person, yelling, making them show both their hands and handcuffed them
I've always hated CAH. On top of the shitty edgelord humor, every house party I'd attended where they played this it'd go on for way too long and couples would end up picking each other's answers as winners every round.

This story is wild, and I wouldn't put it past the wypipo that created this game to treat their lone black employee terribly tbh.
That is so accurate. It really does take way too long every time, and you can always tell who is catering to who.
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