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Internet Divided Over Airplane Seat Debacle



A new video surfaced recently of a flight and two passangers who had a conflict...of sorts.

The woman's seat reclines and his doesnt. He punches the back of her seat repeatedly after she's reclined it.

Unrelated to the embedded tweet a lot of online users have commented on the issue with some calling for police to get involved for the man's actions toward the lady's seat.

Who do you think is in the wrong here?

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He would have never done this if it were a man reclining. Fuck this dude.
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Mte.
Right. They're both wrong but his response is honestly fucking embarrassing for an adult. He knows that if he acted like that with another dude he'd be at risk of getting his ass beat.
/post
This was my FIRST thought
Mte
Absolutely.
lol you know it.
Seriously.

An actual douchebag.
EXACTLY !!!!
There is a special hell for ppl who recline all the way. (Those sleeping on overnight nights have a get out of hell free card tho)
What if this lady was on an overnight or connecting flight though, is what I don’t get. She could’ve been travelling for 20+ hours already and now be on her last transfer. That’s why it’s inconvenient but I don’t see a point getting angry at anyone for doing it. People have to have more empathy. You expect to be cramped on a plane.
Well, I hope the seats recline in hell then.
both jerks

but if he asked nicely first, and she still reclined all the way

fuck her

and definitely fuck anyone asking for the police to be involved in this?! lolll
lmao the policeeee have better things to be doing
Apparently he did ask nicely first. She put the seat up at first but after they had their meals she reclined again.
wooww fuck her then lmao she knew it was going to piss him off
Oh, so she showed consideration and compromised by making sure he'd have room for a comfortable meal and only decided that it was her turn afterwards? What a selfish, selfish woman. She should have put him first the entire flight. Does she not know her place in society?

ickyspot

1 month ago

wormsinthedirt

1 month ago

he's an asshole. sorry, but if you got the last seat that doesn't recline then you just have to accept your sardine fate, you can't transfer your own bad luck (or lack of planning) so other people get inconvenienced instead.
Or pay to choose another seat if it bothers you so much I mean he knew what seat he was going to get

lloyd_llewellyn

February 14 2020, 11:30:54 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 11:31:35 UTC

What it was the last available on the plane. I mean nobody in their right mind would choose that particular seat. There’s a thing called common decency. I would not want my fellow passenger to suffer so I can get more comfortable in my seat. His behaviour was childish for sure but that lady had it coming.

fernandocolunga

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

fernandocolunga

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

fernandocolunga

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

fernandocolunga

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

fernandocolunga

1 month ago

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

bellwetherr

1 month ago

I think he’s 1000% in the wrong and I’m not defending him, but when you book “basic economy” on many of the major airlines now, they assign your seat at the gate so you can’t even choose.

but yeah, sometimes you get the shitty seat, just deal with it. clearly it wasn’t a long haul flight, it looks like a regional commuter plane.

syvlie0o0

1 month ago

normanikordei

1 month ago

slinkydinks

1 month ago

syvlie0o0

1 month ago

Agreed!
mte
I’m a nervous flyer so I pick seats with a wall behind as a security blanket. Don’t punish my fearful ass by crushing me lol

pseudonygma

February 14 2020, 14:47:33 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 14:49:10 UTC

THIS!!!!

Ffs, seats are made to recline for a reason. If everybody reclined, this issue would not be problem. Sucks for tall people, but this is what happens when you book economy and airlines are packing in as many people as they can.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the airlines. They don't need to pack economy this tightly, it's not even a profit issue. They always make enough from first class and business class to cover for the entire flight, even if there's no one sitting in economy.

It's the system that's the problem, not the other passengers.

/edit
Also, this whole issue could be avoided completely if the against the wall is used for something else, or eliminated entirely.

fraggleroq

1 month ago

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

Mte, sucks for you I'm still reclining
It's the airline's fault. They shouldn't be designing seats that can't recline when the rest of the seats can.

honey_wheeler

February 24 2020, 10:59:19 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 24 2020, 11:14:33 UTC

Right. It sucks, and I hate when people recline because my knees are squashed even when they DON'T recline, but it's just a feature of airplane travel we all have to accept, and behaving like a Kool-Aid juiced toddler always makes you the asshole.
People who recline all the way deserve to be thrown off the plane but he was also in the wrong here
yeah both suck

but we don't know if he asked politely before doing this? so who knows
He did ask. She put her seat up at first but reclined again after they had their meals.

chomsky

1 month ago

trekkiepetrelli

1 month ago

chomsky

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

Depends on the length of the flight and time of the flight. If I’m flying from Vegas to FL at 5 am...I’m putting my g-d seat back. Probably not if I was aware the guy behind me couldn’t, but otherwise?
I’m usually in the last row of either economy or the eco plus section for 8+ flights and everyone reclines as soon as the seatbelt light goes off...it’s expected. But on my airlines those last rows always recline as well, sometimes even a bit more than regular aisles

sassalicious

1 month ago

new_peteland

February 14 2020, 10:27:46 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 10:28:23 UTC

I hate when people recline all the way, but the fact of the matter is the seats recline so she’s within her rights to do so. I wouldn’t (and never do), but I have had people recline and spill my drink and knock my food, and never have I reacted like this (or at all, I’ve literally never said a word to anyone when they’ve reclined).

The fact that the flight attendant rewarded his dick behaviour with a drink tells you everything you need to know about why men think they’re entitled to behave this way. People recline fully all the time and people react like this.

u_chai

February 14 2020, 11:13:45 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 13:47:44 UTC

I haven’t seen the video yet. But perhaps not rewarded... instead trying to pacify an adult baby so other passengers aren’t furthermore disrupted? Though I wouldn’t put it past an asshole like him to indeed think it’s a reward.

Edit: never mind! I just read an article from tmz and it seems even the flight attendant was an asshole. This stupid airline is even threatening her cause of the video. I’m behind her wanting to press assault charges against the violent asshole.
I don't mind when people recline. That's what it's the for, and those chairs are the least ergonomically designed pieces of crap. But I hate when people suddenly drop back. Just recline gently soI have a warning! I've had people almost smash my laptop screen.
this. ugh, men and their entitlement to space. While she was well into her right to recline (be it a dick move), he shouldn't have reacted that way. Hell, he probably could have just propped his bare foot near her head and she would have put her seat back into space

chomsky

February 14 2020, 10:28:40 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 10:35:50 UTC

I fly in economy like 25+ times a year and lo siento but I'm reclining my seat if I need to, and I expect the person in front of me to do the same if they need to do. My posture / lumbar area gets all fucked up if I sit in one static upright position for 14 hours, and I've accepted my fate when I paid for an economy class ticket vs. even just premium economy. This dude could have avoided this by choosing his seat (even if he had to pay).

Anyway in my experience most airlines with cramped pitches don't let their seats recline at all (see: Ryanair, Easyjet, etc) or they have a modified recline that slides the seat portion of the seat forward so that when the back reclines it isn't encroaching upon the person behind you. Seats recline for real on international / long haul flights but those airlines also generally have a normal pitch in their economy class.

The only time it's a dick move to be reclined is during meal service but tbh you can ask a flight attendant to speak to the person in front of you to sit upright then, and they'll almost always do that for you so your tray isn't in your lap.
It’s one thing to recline in front of a seat that also reclines. Reclining in front of someone whose back is pressed against the bathroom wall is something else entirely and you’d have to be a total dick to ignore fellow passenger’s discomfort. If your posture requires constant reclining then maybe you need to pay for a seat that is not second to last. No one ever deliberately chooses the last seat. The flight was probably full and his was the last seat available.
Yeah, I personally think it's considerate to not recline in front of someone who can't, but she was still within her rights to do so. My argument is more about the overall sentiment that anyone in a reclining seat who reclines is a dick, which I disagree with.

I also know if I reclined in front of this guy without realizing his seat didn't recline, and his reaction was *this*, I would stay reclined out of spite.

To your point that the flight was probably full - I can't assume that because I don't know the route, but I do know that even on full flights, there are people that *won't* pick their seat, so if this guy has so much ire / is that tall that this recline impeded upon his life in a way that he knew would elicit this reaction, he would have had time right up until check-in to choose a seat that wasn't the last row. If he didn't, then his seat would have been assigned and he could have requested the gate agent to switch with literally anyone else with a randomly assigned seat to give him more leg room. That is, of course, assuming he could muster up common decency.

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

chomsky

1 month ago

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

right but by that logic no one in economy should recline - because if he can't recline means she can't recline means the person in front of her can't recline etc. at that point we really should blame consultants & the airlines for even giving us the option to recline at all in order to pretend we're not sardines.

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

laydownhere

1 month ago

But he's ignoring her comfort by demanding she not recline when I'm positive the person in front of her probably reclined (as is their right to do so). So basically she gets fucked so he's comfy. But she's the asshole?
if that were the 'rule,' no one would be reclining ... because if the 2nd to last isn't "allowed" to recline, then 3rd to last needs to be considerate of that and not recline, and on and on and one.

lloyd_llewellyn

1 month ago

nah, get mad at the airline for designing the seats like that, is not her fault
I recline too and I never get mad at people reclining in front of me. I never know it was SUCH a big deal until I heard about it on ONTD.

chomsky

1 month ago

swearwolves

1 month ago

Both are assholes. She's inconsiderate for reclining all the way, but he is childish for doing that incessantly. I can see kicking the seat or whatever once or twice in frustration, but that guy is doing way too much.
I can see kicking the seat or whatever once or twice in frustration

At what point can we expect adults to no longer physically act out their frustration? Punching even once isn’t okay. What if she needed to recline for a neck injury?
This is relatable because I have titanium rods in my neck due to surgery + an "invisible disease" in my back and these people would call me an asshole for reclining, but I can't sit up straight for extended periods of time, so...

mzgrottesca

1 month ago

this
This. Not to mention the intimidation and fear she felt that he might further snap and literally punch HER.
Seriously. We're talking about a grown ass man here. How is kicking a seat in frustration justified?
lol mte i'm shocked at these reactions
Nah the only asshole here is the airline for forcing people in this situation with no way out, thousands of feet in the air. Before anyone says “well they shouldn’t fly then”, I will say that is a very un-empathetic, capitalist response and in no way reasonable or realistic. People need to travel for various reasons and sometimes flying is the only option. Airlines managed to give enough space to people just 30 years ago. They have been operating unchecked and without accountability for too long now
I agree with this.

And the real villains are the airlines.
His punching would’ve lasted about 8 seconds.

Her reclining would have lasted 5 seconds.

I don’t know what either said to another but by the way his face got red I assume it was nasty.

Her letting it continue without flight attendant intervention, that’s in her. Same for him.

There is no winner here.

Both are cunts. 🤷🏽‍♂️
I fucking hate flying.
ugh, yes
+1
if they made long distance train travelling affordable i'd probably never step foot in a goddamn plane again
god same
mte, that high speed rail pic that's been floating around twitter is teasing me so bad

averageontder

1 month ago

malabami

1 month ago

I'm gonna go with the airlines being wrong for stuffing in so many seats that is beyond uncomfortable and the whole process of flying stressing people out to their breaking point.

I'm tall so I've definitely gotten upset with people reclining in front of me in the past, I try to be more chill about it now but I honestly wish the chairs didn't recline.

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I'm so sorry for your knees ;_; I started using my cell phone to watch things on flights because often that's about all will fit if someone reclines. I never recline, if I want to try and sleep I get a window seat and lean against the wall.
I honestly wish the chairs didn't recline

I saw on the news one airline (American maybe, I can't remember who it was) is working on replacing seats with ones that don't recline all the way back. So you can recline a little, but not enough to encroach on the space of the person behind you.

beautyfluid

1 month ago

Exactly this. Greedy airlines have been unchecked for too long. The only asshole in this situation is the airline
IA we live in a society (queue Joker jokes I guess) where you need to pay more to be guaranteed a comfortable space on the plane. It’s fucked up
Hard agree
Definitely agree that it's ultimately on the airlines for choosing to sacrifice comfort and pack people like sardines instead to increase their own profits.

malabami

1 month ago

IA. I had a lady yell at me once because my knees where digging into the back of her chair as if i could control the length of my legs

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

Before I recline I turn around and ask the person. Usually they don’t mind it and appreciate the gesture. And then if it’s a long haul flight when we get food I put it back up so the person can eat normally. I had people recline after we got drinks and such and it resulted in spilled drinks on my pants so after that I try and ask cause I don’t want to be that asshole.
This... Thank you.
Jw... what if even if you ask politely they tell you not to recline. How would you respond?

It’s a honestly a dilemma of mine. Hence I don’t ask at all... i would turn around a bit while reclining the seat, just to see if the person behind me won’t be disrupted.
And how many people are really going to say no when asked if they're not assholes? I don't want the person in front of me reclining, but I'm not going to say they can't if they ask.

u_chai

1 month ago

kriskross

1 month ago

u_chai

1 month ago

You say okay that's fine and don't recline your seat.

u_chai

1 month ago

Oh great, more aeroplane reclining seat wank for ONTD lol.

But yikes at anyone saying she was in the wrong and calling her a “cunt” for it. He got a shitty seat, that’s the way the cookie crumbles, the fact that he responded to a reclined seat with violence says all that needs to be said. She paid for her seat the same as he did, she deserves to use what she paid for how she likes.
lmao airline seat recline drama and tipping drama on ONTD are the hills I routinely die on and I just can't say no.
Other big hits of Internet Arguing: routine infant circumcision, breastfeeding, and The Punctual vs. The Chronically Late.
It’s so strange, it is common knowledge with American that you not suppose to recline your sit? I’m from Asia and fly longhaul and shorthaul economy all the time and everyone recline their sits ... no one being fussy about it. Not sure why it’s her fault, if the airline dont want recline sit they should fix it; she have very right to do so.

syvlie0o0

1 month ago

arcticmonkeys

1 month ago

Now we just need another tipping post!

And for you comment, I totally agree.

dybbukzelda

1 month ago

IA. It doesn’t surprise me the responses are like this, but fuck that. The seats were made to recline. He should have paid for a better seat or took another flight at a different time/different airline if his seat is so important to him. Especially the people saying it’s so rude to recline when you know the person behind you can’t — so what you’re basically saying is that no one in the plane can recline then, because if she can’t, then the person in front of her can’t, and so on and so forth.

He behavior is honestly despicable and if he tried that shit on me, he wouldn’t have any hands
100%
mte lol
Ita, these posts are ridiculous
Yep
lol as soon as I saw this story I was wondering when it would end up here
People who recline all the way are jerks. It’s a plane, not a bed, you don’t need to lay down. If my fat ass with a bad back can manage a cross country flight sitting upright without reclining so can most people. If you want to fly in some state of repose, get a first class ticket.

Your space on the plane is the space in front of you and the space immediately to your sides. Not the space behind you as well.
There are so many bad takes in this comment it's incredible.

1. Cross country flights are short comparatively. Assuming you mean a transcontinental American flight, that's like 5 hours from LA to NY. It's reasonable that if this flight is during the day, then most people won't have a biological need to sleep and might not need the recline. That said, there are longer flights where people do need to sleep or at least adjust positions.

2. Reclining a seat doesn't put you in a state of repose. Let's not get hyperbolic. Delta's short haul economy seats recline to 2". 4" is like the max for standard/basic economy in most situations.

3. Why cite your back issues if you can't muster empathy for other people who face similar problems but *can't* make it cross country / further tbh.

4. Recline is built into airline seats that people already pay for, so no, your space isn't to your sides and in front of you. It encompasses as much as your paid ticket allows, which includes the 2 to 4 inches your seat reclines to the back. Why is the onus on them to purchase a multi-thousand dollar business class ticket when other customers can drop $50 max to choose their seat (generally around $35) to guarantee they're not in the back row, or in a much more luxurious scenario, like $100 to upgrade to the exit row.

Like - capitalism is shit and airlines are shit for cramming seats with 18" pitches into a plane, but flying is not a human right. It's a paid service and customers are entitled to what they pay for. If you want more guaranteed comfort outside the boundaries of what can reasonably be expected of a randomly-selected economy class ticket, then you need to pay for it, and the burden of paying $30 to guarantee more leg room is much less than paying $4000+ to recline because some guy in economy class purchased that ticket *knowing* seats recline, but can't forfeit 2-4" of space.
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Agreed!

trekkiepetrelli

February 14 2020, 12:10:26 UTC 1 month ago Edited:  February 14 2020, 12:11:10 UTC

she gets like an inch to lean back on but it makes all the more difference to him and his space/experience.

you can't tell me that little recline is worth your comfort over the person behind you and their comfort? i'm all for looking for myself but i'd NEVER make someone in already a small space that even more uncomfortable idgaf if they booked their ticket knowing they're in the back row. get a fucking neck pillow.

chomsky

1 month ago

ickyspot

1 month ago

pwrpuffgrl

1 month ago

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

fluffybb

1 month ago

su_metal

1 month ago

You are great in this post 👏🏼
ur doing the lord's work tbh. "flying is not a human right. It's a paid service" the entitlement of some ppl i stg

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

teenxwolf

1 month ago

honey_wheeler

1 month ago

teenxwolf

1 month ago

seat reclining should straight up NOT exist in economy there's just no sense for it with minimal space for everyone it's outrageous.
This is a very dumb comment. Have you never been a 5+hour flight? Or an overnight one?
Who me? Yes, I've flown from the east coast to the west coast. I've flown from the Midwest to Europe. No, I wasn't reclining on any flight.

Flying while fat makes you *very* aware of the space you are and are not allowed to take up as a person, and I go over and above to make sure I'm not taking up space to make other people uncomfortable. It does irk me when other people don't show that same level of consideration though.

For the record, I don't think the guy's response was correct either, but according to other posters he did ask her not to recline and she did it anyway. Should he have handled it differently? Sure but she could have shown more consideration as well.

weighty_ghost

1 month ago

This. I’m not going to begrudge someone for utilizing an option available to them (well, yes I can, I’m constantly stuck behind people who seem to misunderstand the purpose of reclining seats and immediately pop it back as soon as the wheels leave the ground and then sit there on their laptops while I, behind them, can’t even use mine because the seat is in the way and the angle I’m forced to keep my screen at means I can’t read anything on it), but considered what minimal relief it brings to the reclining passenger and what a pain in the ass it is to the person behind them, it shouldn’t be an option at all.
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