Mulan movie cuts out Li Shang

My excitement for this movie just plummeted. :(

Keep it!

Whatttttttttttttttt?

Wow, i'm shookth.

He was Bisexual?

Also I dont get the logic of replacing him with someone else? If that other person is in the ~role of Shang~ why not just call him Shang and leave it be?

Also, how many white people in this....

They were afraid of displaying the Ping/Shang dynamic that oscillated in the ambiguously romantic-attraction territory so they had to create a new character for her that clearly has no interest for her while shes a man and is very obviously ~straight

Ahhh I can see how that makes sense in their brains

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idg why they would write out the whole character for that reason though? why not just write the pre-existing character as not having any interest in Ping? seems weird to write an entirely new character when it'd be easier to just write out a relatively minor detail.

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Cause Shang originally gains affection for Mulan when he thinks that he is Ping, so people have been running with it for years that it means he's bi cause he loved Mulan both when he thought she was a man and when she was revealed to be a woman.

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Since when is he bisexual?

Iirc there was the whole theory that he was attracted to Mulan as a man because he looked at Ping no differently than at Mulan

It's because he ~falls~ for Mulan before knowing she is a girl. I remember watching the movie as a kid and thinking that.

I thought that too when I watched it as a kid.

it's kind of a 12th Night situation isn't it.

Um, bye.

Keep it. No Shang no coin from me.

aren't they also adding a witch as the vilain?
This sounds like Disney trying to sabotage the movie before it even comes out

I adore the cartoon and was so excited for this but with each update it's like... whyyyyy?! They did a near identical rehash of 'Beauty and the Beast.' Why is this changing so much?

Mulan dont need a man, so I'm okay with this.

Ugh I hate this "no need no love interest" mentality with action female characters. Nobody ever, ever says that about male characters and there's always a half baked romance in those movies. It's like if a female character has a love interest is somehow a weakness?

Not only that but it's almost always woc who already are not viewed as proper LI. Usually instead hypersexual or mammy tropes who fix all the yt problems.

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IA. I mean, I hate shitty forced romance plots as much as anyone else does, but I hate the "strong female character = never allowed to be emotionally vulnerable?" trend

I love me some half baked romance in movies ngl. I'm always here for the kiss moment.

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For me, it's just not what I came to see in most cases. Even with action movies with male leads. It's annoying a lot of the time. Cant even watch a horror movie these days without this crap.

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mte women both are and aren't allowed to have love interests in film.

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but she's still getting a man, is the problem
and from the casting notice he's a real downgrade

But there's a male replacement for him in this that will probably be the love interest? So there's still a man.

but she still has a love interest? that begins to feel attractive toward her before she's revealed to be a woman? someone explain.

Someone on twitter says the new lead doesnt like her and rivals her/is mean to her until he finds out she's a woman lol Disney is really afraid of anything outside the box of a heteronormative traditional pairing

that's misses the whole point!

What? That they would have him be mean to her until he finds out she’s a woman just seems worse to me.

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wow that's some bs.

im sure it also it has to do with how big the marketing for this is going to be in china, they can't risk this getting banned for having a hint of something sexually ambiguous

Edited at 2018-04-16 05:23 pm (UTC)

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lmaooo wow, all these drastic changes for a no homo.

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It's literally in the casting call in the tweet lol
He's "Full of himself with a mean, bullying streak to him". Sounds like a catch.

Why would you mess with perfection?

Just cancel it then!!!!!

Why does beauty and the beast get an almost shot for shot remake with beautiful live action and singing, and one of the BEST Disney movies is being paid dust??????

beauty and the beast being such a faithful recreation was a bad call though. The best of these live action recreations were cinderella and jungle book, which were clearly modeled after the cartoons, but took plenty of artistic liberties. Cinderella imo is even better than the cartoon.

Okay you must convinced me to watch the live action Cinderella!

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now i kinda want to see it because i hate the original cinderella cartoon

I thought Cinderella's remake was boring. They cut down the role of the best character.

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Ia so hard about live action Cinderella being better than the cartoon. I love that movie so much, that it's embarrassing!

ia! I loved cinderella, it was beautiful and the actress was perfect

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Why does beauty and the beast get an almost shot for shot remake with beautiful live action and singing, and one of the BEST Disney movies is being paid dust??????

I'm sorry what. Did you ...hear Emma Watson singing?

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People call him bisexual because he was attracted to Mulan when she was impersonating a man.

Also everything coming out about this film I’m losing severe interest. Why they changing it that much.

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