11:55 am - 06/25/2014

Orphan Black: A Few of Many Burning Finale Questions that need to be answered in Season 3

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1. Will Cosima Survive?
I breathed a huge sigh of relief when Cosima survived the finale. We got a couple of scares, with Rachel smashing Kira's bone marrow (and they can't get more for six weeks) and Cosima not waking up at first when Kira shook her, but it looks like she may have found a new hope in the copy of "The Island of Doctor Moreau" Ethan left for Kira.

2. Did Rachel Survive the Pencil to the Eye?
Will Rachel be rocking an eyepatch in season three? Thanks to Cosima and Scott, Sarah had a weapon on hand in a fire extinguisher and a pencil when Rachel stopped by to see her before her procedure, but will it be a pencil to the eye that takes Rachel out for good?

3. If Rachel Does Survive, Will She Be More Dangerous?
If Rachel does survive the pencil, I imagine she'll be even worse than she was in season two. She would hate Sarah - and those who helped her - even more. Kira would never be safe, and that would make trying to figure out a way to save Cosima even more complicated, especially if Rachel figures out they have her father's notes. Even though Marion helped Sarah and Kira leave, Rachel must have people who are loyal to her.

4. Will There Be Consequences for Scott for Helping the Clones?
Scott may have just recently been inducted into Clone Club, but he has certainly proven himself to be quite the ally. However, we didn't see him after he gave Sarah the keycard and told her to get Kira. If Rachel survives and realizes he was helping them, what will that mean for him? Could we see Scott in season three helping Cosima figure out Ethan's notes? And am I wrong to trust Scott, or should I be questioning how eager he was to be part of Dyad and this project?

5. Where's Helena Being Taken?
Mrs. S handed Helena over to Project Castor, but where are they taking her? What do they want with her? What will happen with her pregnancy? (If she is pregnant.) Do they know she's pregnant?

6. How Long Before Sarah Finds Out What Mrs. S Did?
Mrs. S tells Paul that Sarah will never forgive her as she and Paul watch Helena being taken. How long will Mrs. S be able to keep what she did a secret?

7. What Will Helena's Babies Be Like?
(Again, if anyone is actually pregnant.) Will they be like Kira - smart, able to survive and heal fast? We know that at least Helena and Gracie are out there, but are there any other "broodmares" alive possibly pregnant?

8. Why Was Charlotte a Success?
As Marion tells Sarah, there were hundreds of failures. Why didn't they fail with Charlotte? And what happened to her leg that needs a brace?

9. What is Topside?
Marion tells Sarah that Topside steers the Dyad group, and as we saw when Cal showed Mrs. S what he discovered, there are many, many tiers to this. And what about these "other forces at work"? There always seems to be more.

10. Can Marion Be Trusted?
Sure, she helped Sarah and Kira get out of Dyad and she shared some of what she knows with Sarah, but that doesn't mean I trust her or that Sarah should. She's holding back at least something, and that something is probably going to be something big. She seems to know too much for that not to be the case.

11. What About Those Male Clones?
Yes, there are male clones now, and so far, we've seen three of them. Mark doesn't seem to know he's a clone, but you would assume that the soldier one does. And is the scarred clone the Helena equivalent? Do the male clones have monitors too? If so, who is Mark's?

12. What happened to Tony?
Will we see him again? After all, the wrong people could find out about him and track him down.

13. How Much Does Paul Know?
Paul apparently knows about Project Castor, so presumably he knows that Mark's a clone? Does he know more than anyone else since he knows at least something about both projects?

14. What Will Sarah Do with the Information About Project Castor?
Now that Sarah knows about the male clones, what will she do with that information? Will Clone Club try to track them down, or will the focus be on saving Cosima? (Hey, maybe there's a Cosima-equivalent male clone who can help them save Cosima!)

15. Should Alison and Donnie Still Be Worried About Dr. Leekie's Body?
Sure, he's buried in their garage and Dyad is saying he died of a heart attack, but he's still buried in their garage. (Heart marks the spot.) Considering Dyad was going to kill him that night, is it possible someone was following him and saw Donnie kill him? Should Alison and Donnie worry about this coming back to haunt them?

16. When Will We Learn More About Felix?
He's the "very best" of them, as Sarah puts it, but because of the clones' lives, we hardly ever get a chance to delve into Felix's, and when we do, clone world always comes knocking.

17. Where Is Delphine?
It's hard to believe Delphine just went to Frankfurt, or if she did, that she's going to stay there, especially with Cosima dying. When and where will she turn up again? And on the love interest front...

18. What About Cal's Secrets?
Cal may have really come through for Clone Club, but what's the deal with his resources, the people he knows in Iceland, the gun/IDs/money in the drawer in the RV, the RV not in his name, etc.? Cal has his own secrets, and I really want to see that addressed early on in season three. Until they are, it's impossible to fully trust him.

19. Will We See Jesse Again?
Helena deserves some happiness and love too! However, Helena and Jesse were over before they could even begin, but since she did have his hat - and it's all that was left when she was taken - could he show up again?

20. How are the Two Groups of Clones Similar and Different?
We've seen how Dyad handles the female clones, but we've only just begun to get a glimpse at the male clones of Project Castor. Do the male clones have monitors too? If so, who is Mark's? Is there a Dr. Leekie on the Castor side? Can the male clones have children? Is there a Sarah-equivalent who can if they were designed not to?

21. Is Angie Still a Problem?
Was Donnie's visit to her van and threat enough to get Angie to drop her investigation? I'm guessing no. Will she find out the truth in Orphan Black season 3?

22. Will Art Go Back to Work?
Art was suspended because he became a thorn in Daniel's side working with Clone Club, but how long will that suspension last? Will he be back at work next season? Will he be working with Angie again? If so, will he be able to keep Angie from digging any further, or will he just make her even more determined to find out the truth?

Rest of the list is at the source etc. etc.

I loved this reveal sfm Idoncurr

ONTD, what are your ~predictions for season 3 and what do you actually wish would happen?


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principino 25th-Jun-2014 04:03 pm (UTC)
I wish this show would have writing worthy of its star. It's utter shit and it's a damn shame that Maslany is stuck in it.
breaktheice89 25th-Jun-2014 04:26 pm (UTC)
arnaudian 25th-Jun-2014 04:29 pm (UTC)
s2 was a serious drop from s1 but how is it "utter shit" lol
thirteenarrows 25th-Jun-2014 04:56 pm (UTC)
ia. this show wouldn't be near as loved as it is if it wasn't for tatiana. the writing in the first season was average at best and this season was a fanservice mess.
bodyline 25th-Jun-2014 04:05 pm (UTC)
I don't think the male clone reveal was a terrible idea but I think they should've held off on it for S3. The surprise with Charlotte was better.
aria_grace 25th-Jun-2014 05:25 pm (UTC)
I just hope the male clones don't make it too confusing. There's so much going on already, what with Dyad, the clones, the proletarians, the police investigation. We didn't really need MORE story lines to keep track of.
two_haiku 11th-Jul-2014 03:42 am (UTC)
Kinda reminds me what happened to true blood : /
wickedmynx 25th-Jun-2014 04:06 pm (UTC)
I don't want anymore kidnappings, that's for damn sure. I also hope this new clone has a versatile actor, so far he ain't seem all that great.
daceymormont 25th-Jun-2014 04:07 pm (UTC)
i hope we get more of art (especially art and sarah) and tony next season
wickedmynx 25th-Jun-2014 04:10 pm (UTC)
i hope we get more of art (especially art and sarah) and tony next season

daceymormont 25th-Jun-2014 04:25 pm (UTC)
bye felicia
ace_kay 25th-Jun-2014 04:10 pm (UTC)
This! I've been kinda shipping Sarah and Art since season one...
skyler_white_yo 25th-Jun-2014 04:32 pm (UTC)
The Tony story seemed more like fanservice. Like here he is, he's a clone, see his mullet and stubble, let's have him make out with Felix and hit on Sarah. Then, bye bye Tony, good to meet you, thank you for being our clone of the week.
zombieland 25th-Jun-2014 04:38 pm (UTC)
I keep hoping that Art and Felix will hook up, but it seems that'll only happen in my dreams.
nicholasdee 25th-Jun-2014 04:51 pm (UTC)
if they bring tony back, can they at least try and give him like harry legs and non sculptured eyebrows. it was such a lazy makeup job
ekrelly 25th-Jun-2014 04:07 pm (UTC)
i hope in season 3 they stop losing kira. set her up with a gps tracker or something for god sake.
toxic_illusion 25th-Jun-2014 04:10 pm (UTC)
ikr they need to invest in

supernova804 25th-Jun-2014 04:19 pm (UTC)
LOL and one for Helena too
save_me_xenu 25th-Jun-2014 05:01 pm (UTC)
That kid is an irl Chuckie doll.
aria_grace 25th-Jun-2014 05:28 pm (UTC)
I used to be all about Kira but now I kinda want her to go safely to Iceland so we can focus on the clones and not on saving the kid.
pippopippo 25th-Jun-2014 04:08 pm (UTC)
I think the show needs to examine everything it's proposed about the nature vs nurture argument and be very careful about its stance. Because it seems to me like they're veering on the "nurture" side of things, which raises questions about the queer clones like Cosima and Tony.
totalrecoil 25th-Jun-2014 04:42 pm (UTC)
The fact that with the exception of Sarah & Helena, all the clones had a different fetal environment provides an alternative explanation for how they're different.
zombieland 25th-Jun-2014 04:44 pm (UTC)
Ahh that's a good point I hadn't taken into account.
pippopippo 25th-Jun-2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
That's a good conjecture. On the other hand, there's so much emphasis on how Sarah takes after and is influenced by Mrs. S that you can't help but notice all the "nurture" aspects. That's why I'm just saying that the show needs to be clear about the messages it's sending.
zombieland 25th-Jun-2014 04:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this is true. Going by the show's logic, people become gay based on how and where they were raised. But as long as they balance everything out and give Mark gay love scenes next season, I can overlook this sketchy logic.
toxic_illusion 25th-Jun-2014 04:11 pm (UTC)
Kira looks like Landon Donovan. it's distracting
pastelstar 25th-Jun-2014 04:27 pm (UTC)
oh shit she does lollll
toxic_illusion 25th-Jun-2014 04:31 pm (UTC)

justyourfaceha 25th-Jun-2014 04:12 pm (UTC)
This season was a little underwhelming. Still, I'll definitely continue to watch. The whole clone thing is really fascinating to me. It looks like Helena left her eggs for Cosima so I don't think she'll end up dying. Cosima is really important imo and I don't think they'd kill her off.
aria_grace 25th-Jun-2014 05:29 pm (UTC)
Ohhh good catch. I missed that part.
godrevypoint 25th-Jun-2014 06:47 pm (UTC)
ok the science is confusing me a little. if helena's eggs can cure cosima then why couldn't they just use helena or sarah's bone marrow? why did they need kira's?
justyourfaceha 25th-Jun-2014 06:57 pm (UTC)
I believe they provide stem cells...that's all I've got...lol

I'm an English major, I don't know. :(
atheistkathleen 25th-Jun-2014 09:05 pm (UTC)
o that's what the nitrogen was for?
whiskybars 25th-Jun-2014 04:12 pm (UTC)
this show got too tangled up in itself and it isn't as interesting anymore imo

will still watch it for tatiana tho
burleyqgirl 25th-Jun-2014 04:12 pm (UTC)
Speaking of the pencil to the eye, did anybody else think it was kind of hilariously needlessly-complicated that they had Kira draw a picture to tell Sarah to pull on a fire extinguisher (to shoot a pencil randomly into the room hoping it hit someone in a disabling spot) after Nerdboy Scientist released her hand? Like, they cleared the room but the guy (is it Scott?) obviously had no trouble walking right back in. Couldn't he have just whacked or Maced Rachel or something?
la_petite_singe 25th-Jun-2014 04:15 pm (UTC)
I was definitely expecting more from that device as they were building it. Like, I thought it was gonna release the fear gas from Batman Begins or do something really intricate, but it just...shot a pencil. I mean, it worked, but that's not really very crazy science.
aria_grace 25th-Jun-2014 05:31 pm (UTC)
Right?i was expecting an explosion or something. Not a flying pencil.
supernova804 25th-Jun-2014 04:26 pm (UTC)
IKR, I thought she got hit by like a cap or something from the extinguisher and was waiting for something else to happen
ugotnothinonme 25th-Jun-2014 04:43 pm (UTC)
ikr and what if the pencil missed lol like as if it would go right in her eye
alchimie_amour 26th-Jun-2014 03:40 am (UTC)
yeah i thought the fire extinguisher was going to propel her away while on the gurney
stani_mnt 25th-Jun-2014 04:15 pm (UTC)
I hope Rachel is dead.
Also, poor Helena. She just can't catch a breath
la_petite_singe 25th-Jun-2014 04:20 pm (UTC)
I didn't quite get the meaning of Cosima's ~vision of Delphine when she fake-died for a second. Was it just that she loves her and came back to the light or whatever to eventually be with her, or was there something more mysterious going on there? I'm not 100% down with the dynamics of that relationship, but I could be so into it if they develop it more.

Don't care about Paul at all. Definitely hoping for lots more Cal & Jesse, though tbh I don't think the Tony reveal worked at all and I hope he's not back. I love the idea of a trans clone, but somehow it just didn't work at all, especially the flirtation with Felix; I just didn't buy he'd ever make out with someone who looks just like his sister, no matter their gender.
timandnorah 25th-Jun-2014 11:49 pm (UTC)
Well I mean Tony was very very drunk when he kissed Felix.
alchimie_amour 26th-Jun-2014 03:46 am (UTC)
RE: the scene with delphine - i initially thought they were trying to add to the mystique of kira's psychicness with that one, but idk we'll just have to see
dissident 25th-Jun-2014 04:21 pm (UTC)
Helena channeling Lorde
who_love 25th-Jun-2014 04:21 pm (UTC)
I loved this series and I'm hf male clones so long as the ladies remain at the forefront
skyler_white_yo 25th-Jun-2014 04:22 pm (UTC)
Can they stop kidnapping Helena and Kira when they're not sure what to do with the story.

The more I think about, the more season 2 just makes me so unhappy. Tatiana deserves so much better.

Not sure how I feel about Castor Clones, guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens.
aria_grace 25th-Jun-2014 05:33 pm (UTC)
IA. Enough with kidnapping those two. I'm kinda pissed they sent Helena off. I was looking forward to more time with her and the other clones.
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