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Rogue's Deleted Subplot From X-Men: Days Of Future Past Finally Revealed


This article contains spoilers for X-Men: Days Of Future Past. If you haven't seen the film yet, come back after you've done so.

For a couple of months running up to the release of X-Men: Days Of Future Past, the inclusion of Anna Paquin's Rogue was the subject of intense speculation. It all started with Bryan Singer's insistence that despite being featured in the teaser trailer for the film, everyone's favorite mutant from down south was out of the picture. This position was then reversed almost a month before the film's May 23rd release date, though her re-instated role was referred to as a "mere cameo." Now we know we see Rogue for a brief moment as she and Bobby hold hands in the newly corrected future. Between both extremes was a subplot that writer/producer Simon Kinberg deleted from the final script: a subplot that would have made for a longer, but a more sensible film.

The Daily Beast caught up with Kinberg on the Louisiana set of his next film as writer/producer, Fox's The Fantastic Four. In the ensuing interview, the hot topic of just how much we didn't get to see of Anna Paquin's performance was addressed rather directly, with a directly proportional response from Simon Kinberg himself:


Strangely enough, I think this subplot could have worked, because it's exactly what I (and I'm sure countless other comic geeks) thought was going to happen the moment Kitty Pride got slashed by Wolverine. The movie originally had a scene that would have brought Rogue into the picture to try and help Kitty heal during the time travel process. While the scene would have changed Rogue's power set a bit, the idea was that she could touch Wolverine, absorbed his healing powers, and then transfer them to Kitty. Not only does this make Kitty's wounds a more significant part of the plot, the extra scenes would have also meant more screen time with Sir Patrick Stewart and Sir Ian McKellen - which would have been worth the money and narrative effort spent. So what was Simon Kinberg's problem with this scene?


After taking in Simon Kinberg's statements, and pulling apart/reassembling the story pieces of X-Men: Days Of Future Past, the Rogue subplot doesn't seem like that much of a detour. In fact, it begins to look like a thematically tidy, yet fan pleasing solution to the ensuing plothole that arises in the story line's deletion. Also, by letting Kitty Pride to get by on only a wing and a damned prayer, the filmmakers indirectly engaged in an act of cruelty towards a mutant we've yet to see played as nothing more than a sidekick/love interest. Seriously, what did Ellen Page ever do to you guys?

Since I don't know how the original story implemented this scenario, there's only one way I can see this deleted storyline fitting into the finished film. Assuming the Rogue/Kitty healing scenario is in play, we know that Logan would have had to have another instance of his consciousness being knocked out of focus, when he feels his power draining. As fate (and scriptwriting) would have it, there's a chunk of time that left him at the bottom of the Potomac during the final fight in the film. Simon Kinberg could have easily juxtaposed Rogue healing Kitty with Logan at the bottom of the river, or replaced Logan being at the bottom of the river entirely with the Kitty/Rogue connection. The latter would have made more sense, seeing as one of the biggest nitpicks the movie left dangling was how the hell is Logan still alive when he's been left to drown for so long? The former might have been able to use comic book logic to keep Wolverine alive underwater for extended periods of time. Both solve two problems, and give the proper due to two female mutants whose names aren't Mystique.

It's not the first time Rogue almost appeared in an X-Men-related property, and knowing that X-Men: Apocalypse is going to use the now battle tested "First Class meets Old Class" formula going forward, it probably won't be the last.

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Finally saw X-Men: DOFP. But someone could explain me [Spoiler (click to open)]Logan's scene in the end ?
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jacobcr 30th-May-2014 03:40 pm (UTC)
OP! ♥

Would love if they put a director's cut on the DVD.


crying T___T


What do you need explaining about the ending? :s

Edited at 2014-05-30 03:41 pm (UTC)
flawlessa 30th-May-2014 03:43 pm (UTC)
What's this gif of?
jacobcr 30th-May-2014 03:48 pm (UTC)
Old Professor X watching the mansion burn while waiting in X-Jet. Old Mags and Iceman have gone off to rescue Rogue at that point.
grotesque_xxx 30th-May-2014 03:43 pm (UTC)
bb ♥

[Spoiler (click to open)]Logan in the end; he met Jean and Professor but then Mystique found him?[Spoiler (click to open)]
endingonfire 30th-May-2014 04:13 pm (UTC)
Where are these scenes coming from??? This and the princess scene weren't in the film, are they being released now?
fabouluz 30th-May-2014 04:18 pm (UTC)
Mystique and Wolverine will be the major villains next film.
theantipoet 30th-May-2014 03:43 pm (UTC)
if Rogue comes back for AoA, I hope to god they recast her :/

OP: the Logan scene at the end was just to hammer home that 1) the future was changed, 2) all the events of the last X-Men movie are officially retconned and can be ignored.
grotesque_xxx 30th-May-2014 03:45 pm (UTC)
thank you :)
oblivious_frog 30th-May-2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
AoA is set in the 80s so I doubt Rogue will be in it.
itscomicrelief 30th-May-2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
Of all the X-Men, I find it hard to recast her as I can't put one actress in my head to get her right

Edited at 2014-05-30 03:57 pm (UTC)
jigglemypuff 30th-May-2014 04:22 pm (UTC)
Well she'd be a kid if she's a live at all. Depends on when in the 80s it is set.
go3x 30th-May-2014 04:58 pm (UTC)
YES to this. I didn't want to see her in this more than what she appeared because I don't like the forced chemistry between her and Bobby. Bobby had way more chemistry with Kitty in this series.
freshoffthefarm 30th-May-2014 03:44 pm (UTC)
IDK I think adding them going to get Rogue would have added unnecessary length to an already long movie.

Seeing Kitty struggle to hold on and ~be brave~ all on her own without the need for outside help was good enough for me. I didn't need to see Rogue come in and save her just to see Anna Paquin.

Though I did see AP's name higher than oh, everyone else in the credits.
dianakingston 30th-May-2014 05:00 pm (UTC)
To be fair, that would have at least created a scenario in which a woman saves another woman - not a common sight in this series.
slinkhard 31st-May-2014 08:24 am (UTC)
Or any series, really.
makahakat 30th-May-2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
the idea was that she could touch Wolverine, absorbed his healing powers, and then transfer them to Kitty

that is not how her powers or wolverines powers work tho wtf

how the hell is Logan still alive when he's been left to drown for so long

bc he's wolverine??? im p sure there was a point in the comics where sabretooth like literally ripped him in half and threw him down a damn mountain and he didnt die
2morrowww 30th-May-2014 03:48 pm (UTC)
isn't he the hulk's fave because he can rip him in half lol
hardy91 30th-May-2014 03:51 pm (UTC)
IKR!
I thin the initial idea was that kitty would get hurt so they would need someone else to keep wolverine in the past. Hence they rescued rogue so she could take kittys powers and keep wolverine in the past.
ametalheart 30th-May-2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
This!
makahakat 30th-May-2014 04:01 pm (UTC)
ohhh that wouldve made sense!

which is why they didnt do it, im sure
mermaid_darling 30th-May-2014 04:23 pm (UTC)
I thought Rogue lost her powers in X3, or am I mistaken?
agentnever 30th-May-2014 05:01 pm (UTC)
Why does Kitty even HAVE that power, though?
cageyb 30th-May-2014 05:52 pm (UTC)
In the comics they established that drowning is a surefire way to kill regenerators like Logan for good since it causes brain death.
2morrowww 30th-May-2014 03:46 pm (UTC)
can anyone explain to me why charles was alive if he died in the third movie lol
makahakat 30th-May-2014 03:51 pm (UTC)
bc this franchise effing blows
2morrowww 30th-May-2014 03:54 pm (UTC)
i thought there was supposed to be a logical explanation? cause like some after the credits scene? but as far as i rmr the after the credits scene was erik playing chess all alone or whatever
i'm so confused
theblackwidow 30th-May-2014 03:54 pm (UTC)
because "science"
jacobcr 30th-May-2014 03:55 pm (UTC)
Transferred his consciousness to his comatose twin brother
grotesque_xxx 30th-May-2014 03:58 pm (UTC)
evett 30th-May-2014 09:28 pm (UTC)
because Singer went "Ratner hew?" He wasn't having any of that X3 bullshit so he changed everything he could.
annita008 31st-May-2014 12:26 am (UTC)
i have been wondering the same thing
jigglemypuff 30th-May-2014 03:47 pm (UTC)
Do we still need spoiler tags? I thought the rule was only through opening weekend?

I hope they include this on the DVD. Also I'm confused about Rogue's age in all of this.
hardy91 30th-May-2014 03:54 pm (UTC)
Well she was a teenager in the first x-men so I would assume she would be mid/late thirties in DOFP

Edited at 2014-05-30 03:54 pm (UTC)
yummyhead2toe 30th-May-2014 03:50 pm (UTC)
Can we finally reveal Wolverine's naked front side?
vehiclesshockme 30th-May-2014 03:51 pm (UTC)
I'm hopefully going to go see this today.
wheresandrae 30th-May-2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
shame because Anna Paquin is one of the most talented actors in the cast (re: Margaret not True Blood)
outoftime 31st-May-2014 03:23 am (UTC)
Thank you - I know she's nothing special on TB, but she is an amazing actress when given the material (Margaret).
anchellada 30th-May-2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
i irrationally hate her in these movies
ametalheart 30th-May-2014 03:57 pm (UTC)
I just want more Rogue, is that too much to ask? I think Anna could do a great job if they focused on her character a bit.
r_a_black 30th-May-2014 04:21 pm (UTC)
Same. I was super disappointed that all we got was a glimpse.
amber_protocol 31st-May-2014 01:13 am (UTC)
If a woman wants screentime in this series she'll have to be naked wearing bodypaint, otherwise it's dudes only lbr.
slinkhard 31st-May-2014 08:27 am (UTC)
mte
ciao_bella315 30th-May-2014 03:59 pm (UTC)
I don't think I've ever been more confused by a franchise than this one.
survival 30th-May-2014 04:01 pm (UTC)
#justiceforrouge
lettace 30th-May-2014 04:02 pm (UTC)
Didn't she take the cure? Wtf was she going to do

And op, I'm wondering the same thing. Mystique rescues him so he never gets experimented on? No adamantium claws? but I guess it makes sense bc Wolverine's going to be in X-men apocalypse
mattthew 30th-May-2014 04:04 pm (UTC)
the cure supposedly didn't work. magneto moves the chess piece at the end of the movie after he lost his powers.

also, maybe he still does get his adamantium claws. idk, this movieverse isn't the most consistent. i try not to ask too many questions.

Edited at 2014-05-30 04:05 pm (UTC)
lettace 30th-May-2014 04:07 pm (UTC)
lol shame on me to this day i just thought magneto knocked the chess piece over w his hand
but he does have his powers, so oop

i was about to complain about too much wolverine in this movie but for once he didn't do much lol
grotesque_xxx 30th-May-2014 04:08 pm (UTC)
Mystique rescues him so he never gets experimented on? No adamantium claws?

that's a good question
beoweasel 30th-May-2014 09:42 pm (UTC)
Maybe she was taking that serum that Hank developed back in the 70's? The one that deadened your powers?
hausofashley 30th-May-2014 04:22 pm (UTC)
I agree with why they cut it, but still I wish they had Rogue in it somehow. I hate excluding her made it look like she didn't survive with the last of the mutants. Mystique too.

They didn't have to have Wolverine cut Kitty - the Sentinels were closing it, so the time was limited regardless of her wound.

I just really wanted the theory/reported spoiler to be Rogue finally embracing her power, flying through the air, and destroying a Sentinel, as time reached the end.

It would've been amazing.
war_machine_rox 30th-May-2014 04:48 pm (UTC)
I would have cried tears of joy if that theory actually happened in the movie ;_;
turkish_popstar 30th-May-2014 05:40 pm (UTC)
this would have been awesome
mekania 30th-May-2014 06:16 pm (UTC)
Mystique was definitely dead by the future timeline. They dissected her to create the Sentinals.
kittenmittons 30th-May-2014 06:24 pm (UTC)
I don't think that's true? The timeline with the Sentinels is the timeline that all the other movies were a part of, and Mystique is definitely alive in those. There was a line in DOFP where Trask said he needed a sample from her brain and bone morrow and such, so it's implied that they experimented on her but didn't kill her, for whatever reason (probably because this series is a continuity mess). She may have died between X3 and DOFP, but she was alive after first being captured and experimented on in 1973 for the Sentinal technology.
pastelstar 30th-May-2014 07:34 pm (UTC)
Ugh I would kick a baby to see Rogue finally being the baddest of all on screen
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