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SHIELD season finale promo

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nashiouji 7th-May-2014 01:31 am (UTC)


And all the grant sympathizers are already claiming "NO, GARRETT KILLED THE DOG".
alessandra_lee 7th-May-2014 01:33 am (UTC)
It definitely looked like Garrett (or at least someone who wasn't Ward) killed the dog. Not that it excuses Ward being a murderous member of a Nazi organization.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 05:23 am (UTC)
See i was rewatching the scene, and while they did leave room for ambiguity, unless it was someone else entirely, I don't buy that Garrett would bother killing the dog OR keep Ward as a protégé if he knew Ward would defy a command, especially one meant to establish Ward's absolute obedience to Garret's orders.

Since they were a bit heavy handed with the parallel of that scene to Ward killing FitzSimmons as a symbol of his 'silencing his feelings for the team', I think he preferred to toss them into the ocean over an up-close kill because it's impersonal and he can remove himself from the act, just like letting the dog run far enough away enabled him to see the poor pup as another hunt, no different from the other animals he shot before.
diamond_dust06 7th-May-2014 03:03 am (UTC)
He fucking killed the dog. I hope that shuts them up already.

Edit: Er, I mean, Ward did, not Garrett. ~It's a weakness.~

Edited at 2014-05-07 03:05 am (UTC)
amber_protocol 7th-May-2014 03:46 am (UTC)
Even if he didn't kill the dog, why would anyone congratulate him on not doing that? Everyone knows you never kill the fucking dog.
tommybeulah 7th-May-2014 01:31 am (UTC)
There will be hell to pay if FitzSimmons dies. I watch for them and May being a badass. Im not here for special snowflake Skye and her whiny daddy Coulson
klutzy_girl 7th-May-2014 01:34 am (UTC)
They didn't FitzSimmons in the promo. They're totally fine.
deceitful 7th-May-2014 01:38 am (UTC)
Since Fitz is getting along with Trip now and was ready to believe the good in Ward I'm convinced he's going to be a casualty.
endingonfire 7th-May-2014 01:43 am (UTC)
People are theoriZing that Fitz dies and I am not ready to entertain that notion.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 02:30 am (UTC)
I so see him getting Doyle'd, and it will wreck me.
pillamelai 7th-May-2014 02:31 am (UTC)
Ngl, I find it better than confronting Simmons about being 'friendzoned' (like I felt was going to happen), or keeping on assuming the black guy is uneducated. He's being showing his true colors these last episodes.

If the writers can't portray an honest friendship between a man and a woman, they could have made him gay or something. Ward x Fitz was my favorite crackship when this show was starting. I realize this is Disney, but they made Mulan not straight, so it's not that far off.
shamoogity 10th-May-2014 03:28 am (UTC)
I think the guy who plays Fitz is one of the best actors on the show. He actually really made me for feel for him in terms of how betrayed he felt by Ward. And he's got great comedic timing. They'd be stupid to kill him off this early.
pillamelai 7th-May-2014 02:22 am (UTC)
I still don't get why Ward is supposed to be evil. He's just a spy, doing what spies do. No one batted an eye when Coulson killed those guards at project TAHITI.
alessandra_lee 7th-May-2014 01:31 am (UTC)
I hope they let Raina's story about Skye's possible origins simmer until season 2, instead of clogging up the finale with it.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 01:33 am (UTC)
Ia, but i'm gonna need Skye to punch a hole through Ward's chest.
alessandra_lee 7th-May-2014 01:33 am (UTC)
That would be a nice note to end on.
xpirate_queenx 7th-May-2014 03:40 am (UTC)
Ditto.
deceitful 7th-May-2014 01:32 am (UTC)
Garrett was entertaining until the Buddy bit. He and Ward are actual monsters. I was hoping Raina was lying about the serum and was ready to poison his ass.
klutzy_girl 7th-May-2014 01:32 am (UTC)
Garrett was entertaining until he shot the dog? He emotionally abused Ward the entire fucking time. And at least Ward didn't shoot the dog (and tried to save FitzSimmons, albeit in a really sucky way).

Edited at 2014-05-07 01:33 am (UTC)
tommybeulah Re: 7th-May-2014 01:34 am (UTC)
Garrett's more entertaining than Ward
deceitful Re: 7th-May-2014 01:36 am (UTC)
Came out wrong I guess. His general attitude these HYDRA episodes have entertained me. I'm 100% over his ass in this episode.
chrislola Re: 7th-May-2014 01:53 am (UTC)
haven't seen this ep yet, but i've been entertained by him as a villain this season. it helps that whenever i see his face i immediately hear "game over, man. game over." in my head. he's an asshole, but at least he's an entertaining one.
nomorefrostbite 7th-May-2014 10:23 pm (UTC)
I was so ready for the serum to really be some monstrous formula that Raina cooked up to experiment on Garrett, then she whips out a clipboard and starts cataloguing what horrible things happen to him because of it.

Disappointed, Flowers!
klutzy_girl 7th-May-2014 01:32 am (UTC)
Holy fuck, I'm shaking again. Damn you, show because fuck that was intense.

Ugh, fuck that emotionally (and most likely physically) abusive piece of shit Garrett. He totally shot the dog. Poor puppy.

Grant cares about FitzSimmons (and Skye, obviously)! He dropped them in the ocean to at least give them a fighting chance so Garrett wouldn't kill them. Not the best way to go away things, but there was probably no other options.

I wonder if that theory about Ward being a triple agent and Simmons a Hydra sleeper agent are true. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE ANYMORE, BUT I AM TERRIFIED TO FIND OUT.

Yay for Fury next week! And I hope Garrett dies.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 01:35 am (UTC)
See, I believe wholeheartedly that Ward killed that dog in the end, and I don't think he was trying to give FitzSimmons a chance, but it was a clean and easy way to get rid of them and not have to look them in the eyes as he killed them. Just like he couldn't kill the dog point blank.

Nah, I'm pretty sure Simmons will end up being from a different agency all together; her conversation with Fitz seemed like foreshadowing.
lady_iriska 7th-May-2014 09:12 am (UTC)
Ward did kill the dog, there's no point in Garett doing it.
Your analysis of that scene is on point!
nomorefrostbite 7th-May-2014 10:28 pm (UTC)
This. I don't doubt that Grant cares (about Buddy and Skye, and in a small way about FitzSimmons), but in his mind he'll do what he has to do, as long as he doesn't have to do it up close and look them in the eye and see who he really is reflected back at him.

meganlynn09 7th-May-2014 01:34 am (UTC)
I'm so glad there was nothing about Ward's backstory that made me sympathetic to him tonight. Yes, Garrett manipulated him but I'm not feeling any sorrow for that asshole and will gladly party over his death.

I've been watching how long for more answers about Skye and we're still getting teased only.

I'M NOT OKAY HAVING NO CLUE IF FITZSIMMONS ARE OKAY.
notoriousreign it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:35 am (UTC)
I hope the cameo is Hawkeye

since he's... done TV before. (Like I feel like Fury's a red herring since everyone's expecting him lol but who knows.)


I also felt like not much happened but I really wanna know if Skye is someone from the comics pleeeeease tell it in the finale.
tracerbullitt Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:37 am (UTC)
Is the cameo supposed to be a surprise? I assumed it was Fury.
notoriousreign Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:39 am (UTC)
People act like the cameo is a surprise and then everyone's also assuming it's Fury so idk it'd be fun if it were Natasha since they name dropped her the most these past few episodes, but Scarlett's never done TV so it'd be fun if it were Hawkeye since we haven't seen him all of Phase 2.
alessandra_lee Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:47 am (UTC)
A few months back, they teased a surprise cameo. And then a few weeks ago, they announced Fury, without directly saying that he was the surprise, so I think some people think there might be another one.
viudanegra Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:50 am (UTC)
I'm still hoping it's my queen Black Widow, tbh.
hardcoreninja11 Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 01:53 am (UTC)
Not to mention it doesn't really make sense for it to be Fury after how Winter Soldier ended, bcuz didn't he totally erase his existence for now and go underground into hiding? Or was that just BW? Why would he show up randomly to help these guys? Unless it's supposed to make sense bcuz it's for Coulson.

I still hope it's Natasha. I totally doubt Scarlett would do it but I can still wish.
xpirate_queenx 7th-May-2014 03:43 am (UTC)
I'll be pissed if it's Fury. The cast hinted it's one of the Avengers.
tw_31988 Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 03:55 am (UTC)
the cameo is in the freaking promo! it's FUry!

tencrush Re: it won't be but7th-May-2014 05:51 am (UTC)
I STILL THINK IT'S STARK. There were some strange tweets around when they were filming, certainly hinting that it wasn't SLJ the cast were hella overexcited about. He's been in it before, so that's hardly something for Chloe Bennet to have a genuine heart attack over.

Okay, I just really want it to be RDJ.
alessandra_lee 7th-May-2014 01:35 am (UTC)
Abusive and manipulative backstory aside, I'm still not feeling any ending for Ward but death.
chrislola 7th-May-2014 01:54 am (UTC)
same. i cannot with everyone hoping he gets redemption just so their skyward ship can sail. no thank you.
alessandra_lee 7th-May-2014 02:02 am (UTC)
It does such a disservice to Skye to act like she would just overlook all the terrible things he's done.
endingonfire 7th-May-2014 02:16 am (UTC)
same. Some people are theorizing he becomes the Taskmaster but ehhh I think those were just rumours about Brett Dalton's casting before the show aired.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 02:32 am (UTC)


I dream about Natasha, Maria, Skye, May, Simmons and Fitz just taking turns slamming his head into a wall.
diamond_dust06 7th-May-2014 03:06 am (UTC)
Let's hope that's what it is. Abuse is no excuse for being a Nazi. Death is the best he deserves.
meganlynn09 7th-May-2014 01:37 am (UTC)
And I'm so glad Coulson and May made up because I get a joy out of their scenes together. His look when he watched her take out that guy over the emergency phone was adorable.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 01:41 am (UTC)
YES. I was like, "Welcome back to the Melinda May stan club, Phil."
endingonfire 7th-May-2014 02:18 am (UTC)
May and Phil's little scene when they were beating up people was so qt. I don't ship them romantically at all, but I love their friendship.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 01:38 am (UTC)
My Triplett/FitzSimmons OT3 only grows stronger.

meganlynn09 7th-May-2014 01:42 am (UTC)
I'm so up for that...but so scared we'll lose one of them next week.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 02:22 am (UTC)
DON'T SAY THESE THINGS.
belladonnastrap 7th-May-2014 01:39 am (UTC)
Ah. Hate-fu.

I wonder if Fury will show up to everyone or just like Coulson & May.

Sincerely hope May beats Ward's ass Ragnar Lothbrok style.
nomorefrostbite 7th-May-2014 10:33 pm (UTC)
Thiiisssss. She is so Lagertha, but I want her to be silent all episode then lay the Ragnar Lothbrok smackdown on Ward's face (and the rest of him) so hard.
kangofu 7th-May-2014 01:41 am (UTC)
Agent May remains flawless.

Have they renewed this for Season 2 yet or what?
klutzy_girl 7th-May-2014 01:41 am (UTC)
Not yet, but the renewal's coming in the next few days.
kangofu 7th-May-2014 01:53 am (UTC)


They had better renew it.

Next season should be all about Agent May and her mom. With lots of Triplett.
tw_31988 7th-May-2014 03:59 am (UTC)
oh my thor, please! this needs to happen!
notoriousreign 7th-May-2014 01:41 am (UTC)
PS: Still don't feel bad for Ward and I feel like the episode wasn't actually too heavy-handed with it. And May was a badass queen.
meganlynn09 7th-May-2014 01:44 am (UTC)
I agree, I think it was definitely more of a this is why he is the way he is and not feel sorry for him so he can be redeemed.
notoriousreign 7th-May-2014 01:45 am (UTC)
Yeah exactly, that's what it felt like to me too. I was worried it was gonna focus completely on him and his past and was glad it didn't.
diamond_dust06 7th-May-2014 03:08 am (UTC)
I agree, too. I thought it did a good job of showing how Ward hooked up with HYDRA without really making us sympathetic. We can't forget that he killed at least Koenig and Hand.
palmthejoker 7th-May-2014 05:47 pm (UTC)
My mantra for characters like Ward is: "Back story explains, but does not excuse."
brownxeyedxdork 7th-May-2014 01:43 am (UTC)
omw @ Ward literally sinking Fitzsimmons.
It's like.... I really can't see how people can defend Ward anymore. Dude went off the deep end a looooong fucking time ago.
endingonfire 7th-May-2014 01:48 am (UTC)
It's like.... I really can't see how people can defend Ward anymore. Dude went off the deep end a looooong fucking time ago.


But-but-but- he put them at the bottom of the ocean because he cares

It's really funny to see all the Skyeward shippers who pretend to stan for Skye actually just show their asses as Ward stans. Like, own it, whatever, but don't pretend you're all about Skye you're just making up shit about how she's in ~love even after he exposed his Nazi ass.

Edited at 2014-05-07 01:50 am (UTC)
brownxeyedxdork 7th-May-2014 01:58 am (UTC)
Ugh yes.
There's one in particular who I had to block they do the absolute most on Skye's tag saying shit like "FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT IF YOU DON'T LIKE WARD, THEN YOU CONDONE CHILD ABUSE!1!!"

I mean if you like Ward fine, because I have to admit I did find his character much more interesting when he turned evil, but don't excuse his actions because "B-BUT HIS PAST!!!1"
chrislola 7th-May-2014 02:00 am (UTC)
ward would make skye's stock plummet for me. i like her and skyeward would piss me off so bad because ward is still boring and i hate him. i just cannot with that ship.
nashiouji 7th-May-2014 02:21 am (UTC)
It bugs me when people miss the point of Skye's comment about Ward being essentially a Nazi.

No, Ward isn't specifically hunting down people who are Jewish, Black, Gay, Etc Etc Etc. But he's a serial killer driven by his obligation to follow orders, despite knowing it's immoral, cruel, evil.

Do people not realize that plenty of men who were Nazis did so to save their own ass at the expense of human scapegoats? THAT'S WHAT MAKES WARD A NAZI.
viudanegra 7th-May-2014 01:44 am (UTC)
Do we have a season 2 confirmed?
klutzy_girl 7th-May-2014 01:44 am (UTC)
Not yet, but ABC's renewals are expected to be announced this week.
viudanegra 7th-May-2014 01:46 am (UTC)
Thanks (:
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