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4:47 pm - 02/25/2014

Will Ferrell's pitch for Obamacare draws fire on Facebook



Comedian Will Ferrell is getting pushback on Facebook about his pitch for President Obama’s health care law.

The Anchorman 2 star posted a simple message on Facebook urging the 8.8 million who “like” his page to get health insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act, or “Obamacare” as the law is widely known. He’s seen holding a hand-drawn sign on a piece of cardboard that says: “#getcovered.”

The White House, which has received support from scores of celebrities and athletes to get people covered under the health care law, retweeted Funny or Die’s tweet about the Ferrell Facebook post.




But Ferrell is getting an earful from his Facebook fans about his health care post. Writes Jillian Taylor in her comment: “I don’t believe my government has the right to force me to buy health insurance.” And this from Mandy Nicole, who writes: “Bet you don’t have to go through healthcare.gov!”

In all, Ferrell has received more than 4,200 comments on his health care post (many of them sharp and negative) and more than 18,100 “likes.”

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morgan90 25th-Feb-2014 09:50 pm (UTC)
"It's my freedom as an American to incur six figures of hospital debt"
the_margie 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
Ahaha!
skyler_white_yo 25th-Feb-2014 09:54 pm (UTC)
Duh, debt is just a myth, they are called BOOTSTRAPS, you deadbeat.
cricketgrl 25th-Feb-2014 10:03 pm (UTC)
hypermuseic9 25th-Feb-2014 10:39 pm (UTC)
lmaooo
outpour 26th-Feb-2014 02:42 am (UTC)
my dad tried to pull the "they can just go to the hospital" crap with me

like. do people like that even understand what they're saying???
luvthatdrtywata 25th-Feb-2014 09:51 pm (UTC)
Will had always been a very vocal liberal and proud Obama supporter. Why would people be surprised by this?
contretemps 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
yeah i will never forget that funny or die vid he did years ago spoofing GWB at his ranch like before the 2008 elections lolololol
backtoblack 25th-Feb-2014 10:45 pm (UTC)
People who think he's Ricky Bobby from Talladega Nights
scaredsquee 26th-Feb-2014 01:59 am (UTC)
lol true true
celestinaketzia 25th-Feb-2014 11:34 pm (UTC)
They're prob the same people who get offended by George Takei's LBGTQ posts.
pancreas 25th-Feb-2014 09:51 pm (UTC)
lol glad to be Canadian
morgan90 25th-Feb-2014 09:54 pm (UTC)
As a Canadian living in the States, the first thing I'm doing if I get sick/injured is hopping on a plane back home
pancreas 25th-Feb-2014 09:57 pm (UTC)
I have American citizenship but so glad I don't have to depend on their hospitals.
treegrowth 25th-Feb-2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
i have a chronic autoimmune illness and my partner and i are seriously considering getting a work/school visas and moving to cananda because i cannot afford to be a sick american anymore. unless you have endless piles of money, insurance companies, employers, doctors and debt collectors treat you worse than dog shit for having a life threatening illness. i gotta get out of here, even if cananda is imperfect the healthcare HAS to be better than this bullshit american kind :(
celtic_thistle 26th-Feb-2014 08:02 pm (UTC)
Same and same.
peddlestools 25th-Feb-2014 09:55 pm (UTC)
some crazy lady tried telling me that canadians have to wait 6 months to see a doctor, and i was, like, "that's nice, lady." smells like bullshit to me tbh.

tbh, that's not much worse than the four months i had to wait to see my primary care physician.

Edited at 2014-02-25 09:56 pm (UTC)
evilgmbethy 25th-Feb-2014 10:15 pm (UTC)
I have dual citizenship and tbh as soon as I get my PhD I'm moving. I have multiple serious chronic conditions and it's too scary to depend on unstable American health care looking into my future. Not to mention too expensive.

Edited at 2014-02-25 10:15 pm (UTC)
spanishsaharaa 25th-Feb-2014 10:39 pm (UTC)
When I got injured in a game in college I had to go by ambulance + had a CT scan. The school pays for any injury if it happens while I'm playing - but anyway they sent my mom back home in Ontario the bill for record purposes & it was over $5k. With insurance back in ON we wouldn't have had to pay anyways...But smh.
fluffybb 25th-Feb-2014 10:43 pm (UTC)
My father was diagnose with liver cancer a few years back and we would be in financial ruin if we live in the state. I love our healthcare system.
sandvich 25th-Feb-2014 10:43 pm (UTC)
I'm not Canadian but sometimes I still sing this song to myself. It's so catchy.
my_moloko 25th-Feb-2014 11:04 pm (UTC)
Yes! I've had a few MRI's and X-rays and I don't even want to know what it would cost if I lived in the States
adorealire 25th-Feb-2014 11:26 pm (UTC)
Honestly, one reason why I would never live in the states is because of health care. I am always so greatful that my mom decided to immigrate to Canada instead of the US because we would have been bankrupt and my mom would probably be dead tbh :/
identifiedd 26th-Feb-2014 12:02 am (UTC)
same. my dad just got diagnosed with actinic keratosis which puts him at a high risk for skin cancer and he got prescribed this cream that cost him $40 here and the dermatologist said that it costs around $600 in the us
lonely_goatherd 26th-Feb-2014 11:07 pm (UTC)
seriously the amount of prescription drugs, diabetes monitoring equipment and hospital care i got in the past few days for almost no cost could have bankrupted me. fuck i love this country! now pls melt, snow
hrhobo 25th-Feb-2014 09:51 pm (UTC)
when i read about these complainers, all i hear is cecily strong as the scottish fish saying, "You don't know meh!!"
anna_karenina_x 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
The politics of Obamacare aside it creeps me out when entertainers shill for the government
muzicnem 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
Same. I get that they're citizens too but they're not your average anon citizen.
xpirate_queenx 25th-Feb-2014 10:13 pm (UTC)
ikr

I don't want someone who never had to worry about healthcare in the first place telling me to sign up for it.
ion_square 25th-Feb-2014 10:25 pm (UTC)
Mte
andieray 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
“I don’t believe my government has the right to force me to buy health insurance.”

somniumdraconae 25th-Feb-2014 10:12 pm (UTC)
THIS FACE. I made it too. Why doesn't this person WANT health insurance???
msmandiemitz 25th-Feb-2014 10:21 pm (UTC)
Because it's expensive?

degele 25th-Feb-2014 10:51 pm (UTC)
some people honestly don't care and would rather have that extra money in their checks instead
_cheshire 26th-Feb-2014 05:32 pm (UTC)
Don't u know true American patriots are unable to get sick  FREEDOM~~~ protects them from all ills and evils
xtinkerbellax 25th-Feb-2014 10:23 pm (UTC)
Heaven forbid that person gets sick/injured. Even with decent insurance medical bills can be ridiculous.
scotchsour This is so stupid, so by this l can state...26th-Feb-2014 12:51 am (UTC)
As a person with no children I have to pay for your kid's public schooling.

If the US after WWII have treated health insurance as automobile insurance where everybody have to get one back by govt, would we be talking about this now?
saintssin 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
"MY GOVERNMENT WANTS PEOPLE TO GET INSURED. FUCKING SAVAGES. WHY WON'T THEY JUST LET PEOPLE DIE IN PEACE???"

I'm so sick of the GOP. So many of them are clearly mentally ill.
andieray 25th-Feb-2014 09:53 pm (UTC)
mfte
calinewarkwc69 25th-Feb-2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
If they want people to die in peace, they need to get on that euthanasia legislation.
cricketgrl 25th-Feb-2014 10:10 pm (UTC)
They are already on the way out. The more batshit crap they keep spewing the worse it gets for their elections. They will eventually fade away with their nonsense and bigotry.
saintssin 25th-Feb-2014 10:20 pm (UTC)
They won't. Not for another 50+ years. And most of these people have children who grow up to harbor the same views and hatred. They aren't going anywhere, unless we boot them out of office. And that can't happen because they gerrymander the states.
saikaro_x 25th-Feb-2014 10:23 pm (UTC)
ugh mte
anna_karenina_x 26th-Feb-2014 01:46 am (UTC)
Not here to defend Repubs or conservatives, I probably hate them more than you do, but there are plenty of legit criticisms of Obamacare. In fact, it's a mess. So its misleading to suggest that one side just wants people to "get insured" and the other wants them to die.
saintvlas22 25th-Feb-2014 09:52 pm (UTC)
I really can't imagine not getting to see the doctor as I want =x

It makes me so fucking grateful for my healthcare in my country.
walker_sarah 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
same
untxi 25th-Feb-2014 10:05 pm (UTC)
ikr? it's something to incredibly basic to me tbh, like free public & quality education for everyone... oh wait.
saintvlas22 25th-Feb-2014 10:08 pm (UTC)
I can't tell if this is a general statement, or you're trying to 'put me in my place'.
evilgmbethy 25th-Feb-2014 10:20 pm (UTC)
It's pretty horrible. I went a lot of years in early 20s without insurance and I was always scared. I learned to ignore things, because I knew I could never afford a doctor. I got a major crush injury on my foot when I was 21 and I made it to the ER, but I couldn't afford to go for follow-up so it never healed properly and over ten years later, I still walk with a limp. I couldn't tell you how many shitty jobs I had where they didn't offer insurance, but if you were sick, you had to have a doctor's note to get out of work, but without insurance you couldn't afford to see a doctor, so you'd slog into work sick as hell.
imabadkid 25th-Feb-2014 10:22 pm (UTC)
same. or having to see some generic ass doctor who rly couldn't give two shits less about u like it's awful.
yasemeowin 25th-Feb-2014 10:33 pm (UTC)
Same. I have a shoulder condition which means I need MRI scans constantly plus have been through what feels like a million types of doctors. If I lived in America, I'm pretty sure I would be hitting £1m in debt soon.

Or $$$$, whatever.
bas_saarebas 25th-Feb-2014 10:50 pm (UTC)
I cut my finger on broken glass at work today. The cut in tiny and I honestly didn't bleed that much, but my paranoid and uninsured mind nearly had a panic attack should it be serious enough for medical attention.

Three hours after the incident, I was still shaky and flighty. I'm a damn paranoid mess about needing medical care because if absolutely anything happens, I'm fucked because I can't afford anything. :/
cricketgrl 26th-Feb-2014 08:04 pm (UTC)
I'm in the U.S. but I'm one of the lucky ones that have great dual PPO insurance plan. It acts as both a EPO and PPO. That being said I see fabulous doctors and I really need it considering my Trans-history.
hope_remains 25th-Feb-2014 09:53 pm (UTC)
I don't think it's wrong for celebs to promote Obamacare, but the whole thing is kinda frustrating. At my income level, they're gonna fine me $236 this year if I don't get covered.

I am JUST able to put aside a bit of savings each paycheck. If I have to pay for health insurance, I won't be able to do that anymore. And it doesn't help that even if you do pay consistently, you're still stuck paying deductibles and co-pays and etc etc etc when you finally do need to use it. It's a scam and it'll bleed me dry if I get it. So I don't want to get it. But I don't want to pay the outrageous fine either.

-sigh- /rant
anna_karenina_x 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
Yep, Obamacare is a mess
firstblush 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
*hugs* it's really frustrating there is that "gap" people fall into where they don't make enough or make too much, and sticks you in a tough spot. I hate that health care isn't provided to everyone tbh
hope120 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
well, if you get it, you can still limit your # of visits/usage to cut down your cost-sharing. good luck :(

Basically, there are two types of insurance folded into Obamacare: 1. catastrophic care insurance (which helps you if you get cancer or hit by a bus) and 2. prepayment for standard medical services.

For 20somethings, it really is more fair to make them to just purchase #1, and only #2 if they want to/can afford it. However, the system needs healthy 20somethings because they are low utilizers who keeps down rates for everyone-- that's why they are mandating purchase of both #1 and #2 by combining them. It just sucks for young people because they've been hit v. hard in the past few years.

Edited at 2014-02-25 10:00 pm (UTC)
ediesedgwick 25th-Feb-2014 10:53 pm (UTC)
yeah

I mean I think that it turns out that young people end up paying less in the long run but it still sucks for ppl who are getting hit hard in their worst earning years
ohtheglorious 26th-Feb-2014 12:44 am (UTC)
Fuck old people tbh. They've sucked everything dry like social security and now the hordes of baby boomers are increasing costs of our already bloated and unsustainable healthcare system.
evilgmbethy 25th-Feb-2014 10:01 pm (UTC)
Well, honestly, insurance is pretty much better than putting away savings because if something slams you unexpectedly (and it happened to me last year, out of nowhere, nothing I could have predicted or prevented, and I had to get like five MRIs, loads of labwork, etc etc) you aren't totally fucked.

As for deductibles and co-pays, I agree. Health insurance as a whole is fucking bullshit but it's the best we've got in this country, sadly. The whole healthcare system is a scam, insurance is just the fixer who cuts you a deal. But it's better to be cut a deal than not get treated, which I wouldn't have been if I hadn't been insured.
arcee8 25th-Feb-2014 10:03 pm (UTC)
Not all plans have deductibles. I have a $0 deductible.
killingsuzie 25th-Feb-2014 10:16 pm (UTC)
I have basically no money for savings. I went ahead and got covered. I'm not paying any kind of copay for my plan because my income level is so low. I figure it's better to get covered, especially since I have asthma and it's been kind of a gamble not having any insurance or meds.

It sucks, though. I feel you.
haruhiko 25th-Feb-2014 10:25 pm (UTC)
*hugs* I'm in a similar situation, bb. It's atrocious. Everyone should have healthcare but Obamacare is flawed as hell.
ion_square 25th-Feb-2014 10:26 pm (UTC)
Yep. Exactly.
diosabellissima 25th-Feb-2014 11:27 pm (UTC)
You're being a little disingenuous here. If your fine is that high, that means there are multiple people in your household you're not insuring, not just yourself.

And not to shit on you, but if $236 is a fee that is causing you a hardship, you likely qualify for extremely reduced if not free plans through the exchange. Remember: the plan simply can't cost more than a certain percentage of your income. It's capped depending on how much you make and how many people are in your household. I say this because I've encountered a lot of people who just have a complete misunderstanding of what's available to them.

I suggest playing with this subsidy calculator if you haven't yet: http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

Edited at 2014-02-25 11:29 pm (UTC)
__allodoxa 25th-Feb-2014 11:29 pm (UTC)
This is the situation I'm in right now too. I wish there was some sort of deferment program where if you're falling on hard times or just need to save up a few extra dollars for a few months, you can voluntarily put yourself "at risk". Even some credit unions allow you to postpone loans for up to three months so you can get your shit together if something comes up.
mysticlady3 25th-Feb-2014 11:36 pm (UTC)
Is that fine only for people who don't have insurance and don't get covered. Or will they fine you if you do have insurance already but didn't change it or whatever? That is confusing me.
buttermell0w 25th-Feb-2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
I feel you. I think this isn't the right system. I'm really glad its working a few of my friends that weren't able to get insurance bc of pre-existing conditions but jfc
I'm paying 300 right now and because I don't claim taxes they auto put me at the highest income level (when in reality I'm probably a few thousand over the new poverty level). My boss (I nanny) refuses to pay me over the table (bc he doesn't want to pay into unemployment etc) so I mean I'm looking for new nanny jobs rn that will pay me over the table but in the meantime I'm having to pay 300 a month and it's BEYOND hurting me (like to the point where sometimes idk how I'm paying for food each month and I have to ask for money from my BF which I hate doing bc I'm not like his responsibility). And if I wanted to try to apply for any like breaks in it - they wanted me to send copies of my bank statements which would be a red flag IRS wise.

Edited at 2014-02-26 12:00 am (UTC)
chibongo 26th-Feb-2014 01:11 am (UTC)
I work for healthcare.gov

You can qualify for a hardship exemption if your health insurance costs are too high for your income!

Also, if you should have qualified for medicaid, but your state decided NOT to expand, you won't have to pay a fee for not having health insurance :]
seroquels It's a scam 26th-Feb-2014 07:19 pm (UTC)
Insurance on a whole is a scam. Continuously paying for something that may NEVER happen, and then NEVER again seeing any of that money again is the biggest scam ever.
Everytime I pay for my car insurance, see the amt taken out of my check for healthcare, I want to scream! I haven't used my healthcare coverage in, ohhhhh 6 years? Dr's visits I've paid out of pocket bc my deductible is $600 and I never meet it within a year. I haven't had a car accident or submitted a claim in nearly 9yrs, but I still have to keep full coverage on my car bc the state makes me.

It's all bullshit.
peddlestools 25th-Feb-2014 09:54 pm (UTC)
we're the only western nation that doesn't provide healthcare to all of its citizens.
robintheshrew 26th-Feb-2014 01:02 am (UTC)
BUT WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH!!!
fabouluz 25th-Feb-2014 09:57 pm (UTC)
Baffles me how Americams would rather go into insane debt then get free healthcare.
saintvlas22 25th-Feb-2014 10:09 pm (UTC)
BOOTSTRAPS!!!
anna_karenina_x 25th-Feb-2014 10:13 pm (UTC)
Obamacare isn't free healthcare tho
numbedtoe 25th-Feb-2014 10:20 pm (UTC)
i can say that is a common misconception that drives me nuts.
jamajenks 25th-Feb-2014 10:41 pm (UTC)
Thank you.
fabouluz 25th-Feb-2014 10:56 pm (UTC)
Neither is the NHS, you pay a tax for it, but it's free for those who don't pay taxes, like kids, babies, people in need. That's the idea, to help those who can't help themselves.
ediesedgwick 25th-Feb-2014 11:03 pm (UTC)
well, i mean, no healthcare is free healthcare. single payer isn't free either.
chibongo 26th-Feb-2014 01:16 am (UTC)
Oh my god, I can't tell you how many people call into the marketplace asking me for "Obamacare" and that they want to sign up for it.
Most people think Obamacare is a type of medical insurance plan, when in reality IT'S A LAW.

So most of them get pissed when they realized they probably will have to PAY for their health insurance

xtinkerbellax 25th-Feb-2014 10:28 pm (UTC)
People don't want a cent of their money going to anything they won't directly benefit from, and just don't want to pay taxes in general, but with that attitude you end up at a standstill. The amount of people I have heard bitch about their tax money going to so and so and how they are paying for x amount of people do to this and that is ridiculous.
akasha6915 25th-Feb-2014 10:38 pm (UTC)
America is filled with idiots when it comes to healthcare. Guns are a right worth defending but making sure kids get fed and universal healthcare, fuck that noise.
bprorsum 25th-Feb-2014 10:43 pm (UTC)
I don't think I know a single American that would say no to free healthcare.

If you could tell me where to go to get this free healthcare in America, that would be awesome.
superdogbiter 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
but will i totally want to pay absurd hospital bills for an accident that wasn't my fault
thewhowhatwhats 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
A lot of conservatives already hate him in the first place for playing Bush on SNL.
maryastor 25th-Feb-2014 10:01 pm (UTC)
and for You're Welcome America
noneformethanx 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
After not having health insurance for years and needing mental health services those assholes can pay my fucking medical bills. I'm finally able to have health insurance now and I'm grateful.
buncha_cruncha 25th-Feb-2014 09:59 pm (UTC)
I'll say it again -- can we stop writing news articles that boil down to "Some nobodies said some stupid shit on the internet"?
la_petite_singe 25th-Feb-2014 10:23 pm (UTC)
ITA. I mean, they make for funny posts here--mostly because of the gifs--but I grind my teeth every time I remember that there are "journalists" out there who probably make more than I do by writing "some people on Twitter had a fight today"-type articles. Aaarggh.
numbedtoe 25th-Feb-2014 10:49 pm (UTC)
IASFM

3 jag offs on twitter say they are offended, suddenly it's a controversy and all who fall into that demographic are offended! 4 morons on FB go na uh, and it's someone driving fire for their views.

random trolls troll! 10 posts.
alienclit 25th-Feb-2014 11:03 pm (UTC)
ia

ofc people can be idiots. We don't need to waste time getting mad about it for no reason.
arielcharming 25th-Feb-2014 11:44 pm (UTC)
ita I thought this article had merit & was like "Oh, just annoying people leaving comments on something. Again."
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