10:25 am - 01/15/2014

Lennox Spice! How Annie Lennox helped shaped the world's best and most successful girl group

(THIS IS ACTUALLY BRAND NEW INFORMATION!) Spice Girls manager Simon Fuller has revealed for the first time that his friend Annie Lennox was secretly one of the architects of the group's success.

He said the Eurythmics star played an important but unknown role in encouraging the girlband to 'ham up' their characters which helped them to top the charts around the world, earning them millions.

In a documentary for BBC Radio 2, Fuller said that Lennox may not be too happy to have her formative role in shaping the band made public.

Spicy sauce

Let's not forget how Simon had everything planned for The return of the Spice Girls to be broadcasted live in Australia, but thanks to Cuntoria, everything was scrapped #Justice4TROSGDVD

The group had distinct personas when they burst on to the music scene and were eventually dubbed Sporty, Baby, Scary, Ginger and Posh.

Fuller said: 'Each of the girls knew who they were and in their own way tried to represent it but it wasn't strong enough. and probably the most significant thing that happened was when they met Annie Lennox.

'I'm not sure this story has ever been told and Annie might not thank me for telling it. But I think we were flying to New York and I sort of brought up midway in the flight and said I've just signed this girl group. And Annie was very interested.

'She said "I want to meet them". Almost directly she was the one who who got them to be louder and more brash and more specific, So Emma who was the sweet cute blonde girl became Baby Spice.

'She just played it and hammed it up - none of these names actually existed, but Annie gave them focus.'

The programme called The Fuller Picture: The Simon Fuller Story, is to be broadcast on Wednesday at 10pm - and also tells how his 'controlling' influence on the girls led to him famously being dumped as their manager when they were at their peak in 1997.

He said: 'It was kind of somewhat out of the blue. My initial reaction was kind of shock, and, fine, OK, that's that. Sod them, I'm moving on. They're missing out on having the best manager in the world and that's the way it is, so I withdrew and stopped managing them instant

'I was the sergeant major, I was the parent I ran everything. I was very controlling and I think that builds up some resentment They were probably unhappy because they were missing their parents, missing their loved ones, they were tired, emotionally drained and I was probably the one responsible for that so we parted company.'

Before the split, Fuller already had plans in place for a second Spice Girls movie and a third album had been planned (MY EMOTIONS!!!!! MY EMOTIONSSSS!!!!!!!111111111): 'It would have set each of them up with solo careers beautifully. It wasn't to be. I completely understand how it happened.'

Fuller, who has managed the likes of David Beckham, Andy Murray and Lewis Hamilton and has made millions from the Pop Idol franchise, also talked about how he was on the verge of looking after Michael Jackson's career.

He said: 'There was a minute there where I was going to become his manager. I had lots of ideas, and I think about it actually every now and again about what I was going to do with him and they were very different to anything he'd done previously and it wasn't about touring for sure.

'I actually advised him not to do touring because I felt that he'd already been seen touring and I felt there was more to offer in a different way.

'It was quite a complicated situation and complication isn't something I crave in life but the people around him would have made it challenging, if it had been just down to me working with Michael I think we'd have done something extraordinary but I just thought better to just let it go, it was a shame.'

espressotorte 15th-Jan-2014 02:54 pm (UTC)
Daily Fail tho
andres01234 15th-Jan-2014 02:58 pm (UTC)
the article is from the daily fail, but the quotes are from a documentary for BBC Radio 2
espressotorte 15th-Jan-2014 02:59 pm (UTC)
Sorry, I have a cold and skimmed over it.

gorlplz 15th-Jan-2014 02:59 pm (UTC)
Michael Jackson

rip angel
onyxobsidian 15th-Jan-2014 03:17 pm (UTC)
Aw Jeremy. So hot
gorlplz 15th-Jan-2014 03:32 pm (UTC)
stan a bit sis!

onyxobsidian 15th-Jan-2014 03:36 pm (UTC)

How is this a 19 year old?
onyxobsidian 15th-Jan-2014 03:38 pm (UTC)
pikapika217 15th-Jan-2014 05:15 pm (UTC)
this entire thread is gold
mjspice 15th-Jan-2014 07:01 pm (UTC)
therearewords 15th-Jan-2014 03:10 pm (UTC)
onyxobsidian 15th-Jan-2014 03:20 pm (UTC)
I miss them ;(
prophecypro 15th-Jan-2014 03:26 pm (UTC)
Annie Lennox inspired a lot of artists out here in the UK..I think
katiluv87 15th-Jan-2014 03:28 pm (UTC)
People need to leave Victoria alone!
She has moved on and found success outside the Spice Girls, her life shouldn't have to revolve around the fact that she was once in a girl group.
andres01234 15th-Jan-2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
her life revolves ignoring her husband's multiple infidelities so she can stay famous
vervain 15th-Jan-2014 03:33 pm (UTC)
Before the split, Fuller already had plans in place for a second Spice Girls movie and a third album had been planned: 'It would have set each of them up with solo careers beautifully. It wasn't to be. I completely understand how it happened.'

of course he would say that didn't they fire him?

i always thought bag it up was meant to be a spice girls song bc it's basically 'who do you think you are'
starlight_icons 15th-Jan-2014 04:43 pm (UTC)
Yeah they did fire him and he even said why in the interview. IIRC they were overworked and went for over a year without a SINGLE day of vacation, their families were worried sick, and then he gave them like 1 free day. Of course they dumped him. Even if he had a good plan that would have given all of them nice careers, I can see why they thought it just wasn't worth it. Besides, many of them wanted to do R&B instead of pop so who knows if his plan would have worked at all.
lr489 15th-Jan-2014 04:16 pm (UTC)
i know they said in their last documentary/special that they were a real band, meaning that they wrote songs and came up with melodies and stuff, but does anyone have receipts of that? i don't doubt it since the spice girls have writing credits in all their songs, and that was beyoncé made it a trend to buy production credits, but if that's the case bow down to 'em for making flawless and timeless pop music.
offinlahlahland 15th-Jan-2014 05:25 pm (UTC)
I remember seeing footage of them writing for spice world on youtube. I'm pretty sure it focused on them doing Never Give Up on the Good Times.
saintvlas22 15th-Jan-2014 10:37 pm (UTC)
The Spice Girls were major game changers in the pop industry:

The Spice Girls introduced two key innovations that have had a lasting impact on the way which modern pop acts go about their creative business. Firstly they introduced the idea of songwriting identity. This was a familiar concept in rock bands like Queen or the Sex Pistols, but not in the world of "manufactured pop", where the credits of songwriting would be divided out strictly in accordance with whoever had written the song. The Spice Girls recognised their solidarity as a group, which depended on maintaining parity in all departments, including the songwriting credits and the resulting royalties. They share the songwriting royalties on all the songs irrespective of what any member of the group had or had not contributed to any particular song.[25] The second thing the Spice Girls established from the outset was a straight 50 – 50 split between them and their various songwriting collaborators. Here they anticipated one of the key developments in the pop industry since the 1990s, namely the increasing importance of publishing royalties as opposed to royalties payments made for the performance of the song on the record
karis_azura 15th-Jan-2014 06:37 pm (UTC)
I sat behind her on a flight once and it was in coach.....she was every bit as bad ass as you would think. (also very polite) I'll always wonder why she wasn't in first class..its not like she didn't have the $$$.
mjspice 15th-Jan-2014 07:01 pm (UTC)
ben_superdetka 15th-Jan-2014 08:34 pm (UTC)
pretty awesome if it's true. Annie Lennox is my inspiration in life tbh
tinkpop 16th-Jan-2014 03:06 am (UTC)
such an epic night for them tbh

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