1:01 am - 05/31/2013

Busy Philipps: Why Having My Daughter Changed My Mind About Waxing

After welcoming her first child four years ago, Busy Philipps had a "real epiphany" -- about waxing! In a new episode of The Conversation, the Cougar Town actress, who is expecting her second child with husband Marc Silverstein, shares her thoughts about body image, losing the baby weight and going bare down there.

Philipps, 33, gladly jumped right in when host Amanda de Cadenet asked her whether she waxes or shaves.

"I love this question," the expectant star said. "I do get waxed, but after I had my daughter I had this real epiphany. I felt like it would be really f--king weird if I had no hair on my vagina, because I have a little girl and I want her to look at me and think that grown women have hair on their vaginas!"

Philipps welcomed her first child, daughter Birdie, in August 2008. The busy mom said it's not as easy losing the baby weight as some celebrities make it look.

"I love that the whole weird misconception, 'I just lost it all breastfeeding.' It's like, 'No, you didn't!'" she argued.

"Well, no one's honest about it!" de Cadenet agreed. "No one's honest about how they get their bodies looking the way they do."

Even before she welcomed her first child, Philipps said she struggled with body image issues.

"I was asked to lose weight by a network for a TV pilot," the former Dawson's Creek star revealed. "The conversation happens because you get a job and your agent or manager calls and they say, 'They are so excited about you. They just think there is no one better for this part and they want you to look and feel your best -- they really feel that that could include losing 15 or 20 pounds.'"

How did she feel about that?

"You take a beat. I think I was a little crushed," confessed Michelle Williams' BFF. "I want to say that I was like 24 when that happened."

"I feel like it's the last frontier of feminism -- the weight thing with women -- even for myself." Philipps said. "I identify as a feminist. I have so many feminist beliefs -- and then I'm so mean to myself about my body sometimes. Or I can be judgmental about other people for their bodies, and I don't know how to get over it."

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coldharbourlove 31st-May-2013 05:08 am (UTC)
LOL at the post below this one
justkeepworking 31st-May-2013 05:10 am (UTC)
cukoo4cocopuffs 31st-May-2013 05:11 am (UTC)
cackled over it
jef_martel 31st-May-2013 05:13 am (UTC)
OMFG dying!
chocobeans 31st-May-2013 05:15 am (UTC)
I was honestly hoping that this would come in right now. I saw the Shakira post and thought, "There's no way but it would be fun."

The mods heard my thoughts.
imnotasquirrel 31st-May-2013 01:15 pm (UTC)
The mods heard my thoughts.

the mods are a bunch of trolls lbr. i bet hawaii_bombay was cackling too.
fifthmorn 31st-May-2013 05:21 am (UTC)
beans4bina 31st-May-2013 05:29 am (UTC)
glowing_dragon 31st-May-2013 05:38 am (UTC)
theactualworst 31st-May-2013 05:40 am (UTC)
Lmao I know!
forevertiffanys 31st-May-2013 06:03 am (UTC)
The irony is glorious.
ohmiya_sg 31st-May-2013 06:06 am (UTC)
evilgmbethy 31st-May-2013 06:32 am (UTC)
lol ikr
thickfreakness 31st-May-2013 06:43 am (UTC)
It really is hilarious
ellecain 31st-May-2013 06:50 am (UTC)
bellwetherr 31st-May-2013 02:11 pm (UTC)
lol mfte.
blacktinbox 31st-May-2013 05:08 am (UTC)
oooh! grooming posts 2 nights in a row!
blacktinbox 31st-May-2013 05:10 am (UTC)
then I'm so mean to myself about my body sometimes. Or I can be judgmental about other people for their bodies, and I don't know how to get over it

girl. i feel you. sometimes i do judge others then i'm like why am i doing that and i check myself. but it's kind of hard when you're trying to fit into an ideal and not view others through that same ideal. i probs don't make sense.
jef_martel 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
It's behaviors that were shoved into our brains since infancy. It's so hard to get rid of.
chocobeans 31st-May-2013 05:18 am (UTC)
You make sense. The vicious cycle of being a girl with all that we have to live up to is tiring.
yurasama_love 31st-May-2013 05:28 am (UTC)
Right? I instantly start deconstructing a person's appearance. Then I feel bad. Then I think about all the things wrong with my body. It's awful.
lockupmytears 31st-May-2013 05:29 am (UTC)
I don't see anything really wrong with it as long as its not out of control, it's natural competiveness
cloudsnberries 31st-May-2013 05:42 am (UTC)
yeah exactly.

I love being a girl most days but damn we have to go through some shit.
hannahgrace456 31st-May-2013 07:29 am (UTC)
mte, it's such a pretentious attitude, especially since most women don't have hair on their vaginas anymore
pacehim 31st-May-2013 07:37 am (UTC)
which is sad
piratesswoop 31st-May-2013 08:15 am (UTC)
i'm pretty sure most women do actually
psychsike 31st-May-2013 01:03 pm (UTC)
This is true. Vaginas don't have hair.

Vulva's do.
vervain 31st-May-2013 01:30 pm (UTC)
lol wat
sully 31st-May-2013 02:15 pm (UTC)
my bf said i've been the first girl he's slept with that has no hair soo i guess it's not as common as i thought
paleanxiety 31st-May-2013 05:10 am (UTC)
i could never bring myself to use a razor near my vulva

read stories about people accidentally cutting themselves down there and it makes me involuntarily clench
toshi_hakari 31st-May-2013 08:32 am (UTC)
Yep, same here. I once tried it and I just couldn't go there with the razor. It's just... WHY would you do that to yourself repeatedly D: Takes so much money and effort and time and I'm just a lazy fuck.
Also, my skin wasn't very happy, so I stopped.

I do trim and I feel fine, so fuck everything else.
stakenight 31st-May-2013 05:12 pm (UTC)
"Takes so much money and effort and time" - wha...?! Any old razor would do, and they don't exactly cost a bomb. I know it takes time & effort at the beginning, but it doesn't after practice. It really is no big deal so I think that's why people other than you do it repeatedly.
meteor_stream 31st-May-2013 08:35 am (UTC)
TBH I had muuuuuch worse accidents when shaving my legs. Like, Silent Hill-esque blunders.
msbombtastic 31st-May-2013 11:04 am (UTC)
waxing all the way
celtic_thistle 31st-May-2013 01:26 pm (UTC)
I only ever cut my finger when shaving it. That was like five years ago, and I've been fine doing it since!
schweddyballs 31st-May-2013 02:04 pm (UTC)
I've been doing it for over 10 yrs and I've never nicked myself. AND I do w/out my glasses on cause it's done in the shower.
hauntao 31st-May-2013 04:10 pm (UTC)
I sliced my labia once. Stopped shaving.
leopard_legs 31st-May-2013 07:11 pm (UTC)
I'm short sighted and can hardly see a thing without my specs so I don't want to risk it really haha. And I get the worst shaving rash anywhere that's sensitive, like bikini zone/armpits.
I sit on the floor with my legs akimbo and do a bikini wax instead...lasts longer, less chance of slicing that shit up which might lead to infection. Hurts like hell but still!
maya_chan_v 31st-May-2013 05:11 am (UTC)
none of us can or ever will. we will always secretly pin or judge/criticise other women to feel better about ourselves.
remyf0x 31st-May-2013 05:11 am (UTC)
i love busy. loved her since freaks and geeks and dawson's creek. i love that she's bffs with michelle too. they're so cute. like, they have playdates and take each other to award shows.
isntdaveone 31st-May-2013 05:11 am (UTC)

ritzyroxie 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
I'd have figured that you'd post this one

shahoney 31st-May-2013 06:24 am (UTC)
God, I swear if these people are so obsessed with how their vagina looks like, they'll never have great sex. No one really cares what it looks like once you're past the oral and you're wet and/or horny... as long as you don't have herpes or something infectious down there like a pus-filled bump or something, you're good to go.
hauntao 31st-May-2013 04:24 pm (UTC)
lol twinkles poonannies
bananasnrum 31st-May-2013 05:22 am (UTC)
that lady in the second video is so relaxed. i'd have her wax me.
violue 31st-May-2013 05:23 am (UTC)

sugary_placenta 31st-May-2013 05:52 am (UTC)
The first one is terrifying.
beaddddddsss 31st-May-2013 07:15 am (UTC)
I speak both Spanish and Portuguese so maybe I'm just confused since I understand everything being said and it's 3 am so I'm probs switching both around in my mind, but I'd swear on my titties that that lady in the Brazilian doc is actually speaking Spanish (and from Spain, no less).
beaddddddsss 31st-May-2013 07:16 am (UTC)
msbombtastic 31st-May-2013 08:43 pm (UTC)
i didn't watch this but if it's making the process look dramatic, then.. I mean I really don't know. I've never even got it done by someone. I do it to MYSELF and after developing a technique, it's quite easy and fast. like idk when girls say they DIED of pain and shit, idgi
blumeii 31st-May-2013 05:12 am (UTC)
yasss all hail the hairy vag

i plan on getting a bikini wax soon though, i dont want my pubic hairs peeking out of my bikini bottoms
chthonist 31st-May-2013 05:12 am (UTC)
I thank gawd every fucking day that I'm a gay man.
ritzyroxie 31st-May-2013 05:13 am (UTC)
Why, if you don't mind my asking?
chthonist 31st-May-2013 05:24 am (UTC)
Of all the members of ONTD that are out there, I thought you would be the LAST to ask this question.
blumeii 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
i dont understand what this has to do with anything
klauses 31st-May-2013 05:18 am (UTC)
shut up, seriously
sprinklebell 31st-May-2013 05:21 am (UTC)
because there is absolutely no pressure in the gay community to remove, groom, or otherwise attend to your bodyhair.
chimbleysweep 31st-May-2013 05:22 am (UTC)
Women are the best though.
fifthmorn 31st-May-2013 05:23 am (UTC)
A hairy dick isn't any better.
wetnasty 31st-May-2013 06:15 am (UTC)
slfrighteous 31st-May-2013 06:26 am (UTC)
Don't worry there are plenty of ppl who thank gawd they're not...
fireprince 31st-May-2013 07:43 am (UTC)
I think people missed the point you were trying to make, but I think I caught it lol A MESS!!! Hairless>>>>
duckyduck92 31st-May-2013 07:45 am (UTC)
you aren't good enough for our vaginas anyways.
ritzyroxie 31st-May-2013 05:13 am (UTC)
Nothing about that outfit/hair/makeup is flattering.
dothefrug 31st-May-2013 05:13 am (UTC)
this belongs on stfu parents, not ontd.
meteor_stream 31st-May-2013 08:37 am (UTC)
Hah, YES!
kukamine 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
aww she's sounds lovely

Edited at 2013-05-31 05:15 am (UTC)
chocomilkbag 31st-May-2013 05:15 am (UTC)
awww changmin
kukamine 31st-May-2013 05:16 am (UTC)
you rang?
lovekrista 31st-May-2013 07:15 am (UTC)
sprinklebell 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
i've let my pit and leg hair grow for over a year now and not stopping anytime soon. i can't bring myself to let the pubes grow, it's not comfy
kukamine 31st-May-2013 05:18 am (UTC)
same except it's leg hair and pubes for me (yes, I'm single -_-)
I still have to shave my pits because if I don't, I produce too much sweat in that area and it's nagl

Edited at 2013-05-31 05:18 am (UTC)
juunanagou18 31st-May-2013 06:30 am (UTC)
I dated (and had sex!) while being hairy as fuck. People who don't body-shame truly do exist.
chimbleysweep 31st-May-2013 05:20 am (UTC)
I'm almost the opposite. Pit hair (on myself--idc what other people do) feels so itchy.
caitiecait 31st-May-2013 05:23 am (UTC)
I've been letting my pit hair grow for the first time ever, because honestly, I cannot fucking take the rashing anymore. I don't mind it, but I like how my legs feel when I shave them.
juunanagou18 31st-May-2013 06:29 am (UTC)
I just shaved my leg hair after growing it out all winter (New England winter can fuck right off) and it's so weird having smooth legs again. But, it's gonna be 90 degrees tomorrow so it needed to be done.

I've been growing both my pit and bush at the same time and I'm pretty happy with it. I trim the bush every now and again, but most of the time I let it be. Same with my pits.
quotidian_quire 31st-May-2013 10:48 am (UTC)
The couple of times I've let my pit hair grow out, I really liked it. It was so soft! But then I caved to society's standards. It's funny though, I generally feel more comfortable with pubes than without.
wheresandrae "last frontier" 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
here go hell come

I hope I can distract myself and hopefully not end up back @ this post but there is little to do at 1:15 online so
the_pinkdress Re: "last frontier" 31st-May-2013 12:03 pm (UTC)
ugh i hate when people say stuff like this... like "____ is the last acceptable prejudice", or "the last issue for feminism".

no, just because it's the only thing YOU think about or that you feel is relevant in YOUR life doesn't make it the only thing in the world ever. how self-centered!
superdogbiter 31st-May-2013 05:14 am (UTC)
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girl please
piratesswoop 31st-May-2013 05:19 am (UTC)
what kind of
superdogbiter 31st-May-2013 05:21 am (UTC)
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queengreen 31st-May-2013 05:22 am (UTC)
That gif is terrifying! What is it even?!
bluepassiflora 31st-May-2013 05:37 am (UTC)
Your gif choices only make sense 50% of the time
aprilfunk 31st-May-2013 06:04 am (UTC)
this is disgusting
deltabean 31st-May-2013 01:44 pm (UTC)
I thought it was a bunch of Homer heads at first, ahaha
misscrystal 31st-May-2013 03:55 pm (UTC)
Pre-emptively adblocking in case this is your new all-purpose gif.
thalassaemia 31st-May-2013 05:41 pm (UTC)
I can't wait until you run this one into the ground too.
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