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11:19 am - 03/02/2013

Billie Joe Armstrong's post-rehab Rolling Stone interview


"This is definitely the only interview I'm gonna do about it", Billie Joe Armstrong says, dropping onto a couch at Green Day’s studio in the Jingletown section of Oakland. “I never want to be the kind of guy who talks about addiction. The last thing I want is sympathy from anybody. I don’t want a pity party.”

Armstrong, Green Day’s singer-guitarist and driving songwriter, is starting a second day of intense, candid talk about the past six months of his life; his violent meltdown during Green Day’s set at the I Heart Radio Music Festival in Las Vegas last September; his trip to rehab for alcoholism and addiction to prescription medications; a cancelled tour and the disastrous effect on sales of Green Day’s three new albums, Uno!, Dos! And Tre!; and the severe testing of his lifelong friendships with bassist Mike Dirnt and drummer Tre Cool.


“After our first interview, I was like, ‘We talked so much about addiction’,” Armstrong says. “I’m fucking bigger than this thing, better than this shit. This is an incident. It happened. The rest is history. I have so many important things to do. I have my family to take care of. I have my band. I’m a crazy-idea person. I always will be. And that will overshadow anything with my addiction problems.”

...The Armstrong who turned up in Las Vegas on September 21st for the I heart Radio concert – part of an international touring-and-promo blitz for Green Days new records – was a mess: taking a runaway combination or pills or anxiety and insomnia, compounded by a long history of heavy drinking.

Backstage before Green Days set, “I took him aside,” Dirnt recalls, “and told him, ‘Dude, you’ve got to fucking lay off the sauce.’ And the minute I walked onstage, I thought, ‘This is not gonna be good.’ We’re known as a pretty tight band. He couldn’t play guitar.”

At a 2010 show in Peru, during an anti-technology rant, Armstrong shouted, ‘I can’t wait for Steve Jobs to die of fucking cancer.” Jobs died a year later. “It was a really stupid thing,” Armstrong says, cringing. “A lot of that shit was going on.”

At the end of our second session, I ask Armstrong if he owes one more apology: to the Green Day fans who saw or read about his blowout in Las Vegas, “I let them down,” he responds bluntly. “The thing in Vegas – some people love it, some people hate it. I know I’m not gonna relive that. That’s a side of me I don’t want my fans to ever see again.”


What drugs were you taking?

“I don’t want to say. They were prescription – for anxiety and sleep. I started combining them to the point where I didn’t know what I was taking during the day and what I was taking at night. It was just this routine. My backpack sounded like a giant baby rattle [from all the vials inside].”

How much were you drinking? What’s your idea of heavy?

“Some people can go out, have a couple of drinks, and they can take it or leave it. I couldn’t predict where I was going to end up at the end of the night. I’d was up in a strange house on a couch. I wouldn’t remember [how]. It was a complete blackout.

I’ve been trying to get sober since 1997, right around Nimrod. But I didn’t want to be in any programs. Sometimes, being a drunk, you think you can take on the whole world by yourself. This was the last straw. I had no choices anymore.

Drinking was a big part of Green Day’s original imagine –three guys making great punk records around a few bottles and a six-pack.

I’d have anywhere from two to six beers and a couple of shots before I went onstage, then go and play the gig and drink for the rest of the evening on the bus. (...) I was a functioning alcoholic.

In Las Vegas, though, you completely lost control.

“As soon as I landed in Las Vegas, I was in a bad mood. To be honest, a lot of it was trying to come up with a set list. I know I should have thought of it like a TV show, not a convert. I was thinking, ‘How can I bring that mentality, that spirituality, of Irving Plaza to playing after Usher?’ And I couldn’t. I’d say to Adrienne, ‘What do you think of this set list?’ Then I’d text Mike: ‘What do you think of this?’ I remember this feeling of ‘What the fuck am I doing here?’

I remember tiny things – getting to the venue, being backstage, trying to shake the buzz off. I remember seeing the 15 minute sign clicking down – click, click, click. Then I went out and got hammered the rest of the night. The next morning. I woke up. I ask Adrienne, ‘How bad was it?’ She said, ‘’It’s bad.’ I called my manager. He said, ‘You’re getting on a plane, going back to Oakland and going into rehab immediately’. I said, ‘All right’.”

How long did you think you were supposed to play?

“I heard 15 minutes. Adrienne seemed to think it was a half-hour. We usually play for two and a half, three hours. I barely break a swear in 15 minutes. I should have just played a few songs and been done with it.

Do you have any memory of what you did or said onstage?

“No. People will remind me a little bit. Or I’ll see a photograph. And it makes me so sick. What I said or did – that’s not what really bothers me. It’s the fact that it wasn’t me. I’m not that person. I don’t want to be like that.

“I’m a blackout drinker. That’s basically what happened. Sometimes people will talk about it, and I go, ‘Yeah, yeah.’ But it’s like amnesia.”

Did you consider watching that footage, as part of your rehabilitation?

“No. I can’t go there. That’s my last drink. Which is good – it’s documented. Anytime I feel like drinking, I can think about it.”


Describe your first week in rehab, at home.

“I was going through withdrawal. That was gruesome, laying on the bathroom floor and just feeling… [pause]
I didn’t realise how much that stuff affected me. And it’s not the stuff that is immediately in your system. It goes back to how long you’ve been using. It was working its way out.

“I was going through so much shift. Even into the second week, I was like, ‘I don’t belong here. I’m not convinced.’ The sick part of it is I wanted to get all of the narcotics out of my system so I could start drinking. But that’s the insanity of the whole thing. You make excuses. You rationalize. You can take a shit in a mailbox. That doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to do.”

Did you speak with Mike or Tre while you were in rehab? Did you know what they were feeling?

There was semi-contact. I think Tre was scared. Life got real serious there for a while. Mike was fucking pissed. Right when I got home, after [Las Vegas] happened, he said all this stuff. It was everything within three or four sentences. ‘You’re scaring me. You’re fucking up your life. You’re fucking up everybody else’s life. You need to get your shit together.’

I didn’t realize how destructive I was. I thought everybody was in on the joke. But I was the joke.”

So you can envision doing this – being in Green Day – at 50.

“Yeah.”

At 60?

“Oh, yeah. Keep going!”


You will be back on the road soon. Have you, Mike and Tre come up with some rules and changes – such as no alcohol backstage – to keep your sobriety going?

“We still have to talk about that. Everybody knows it’s coming – what’s going to keep me from falling off the wagon, where everybody is happy at the same time.

“Sometimes I’m not sure I’m ready. There is still the obsession for alcohol. There’s also sleepless nights. But I have to work on it every day. Because I know what goes on out there. I’m hosting this giant party for people. At least 70-75 percent of the people in the audience have been getting a drink on. I’ve got to watch my step."

The next time you want to drink, what will you have instead?

“I’ll probably run outside, hail a taxi, go back to my hotel room and have a soda. Probably a root beer. I love root beer.”



There's a lot more at the SOURCE

I know Green Day isn't all that popular here on ONTD but it's a really good interview with a lot of insight on addiction.
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zharia 2nd-Mar-2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
This is actually a pretty straight up real ass interview about addiction, I'm surprised. I still can't help but think "GROW THE FUCK UP" whenever I see or hear Greenday. Their schtick is so incredibly immature.
beatupcar 2nd-Mar-2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
Their 'schtick'?

Edited at 2013-03-02 04:41 pm (UTC)
tiki876 2nd-Mar-2013 04:45 pm (UTC)
whatever i doubt they care what u think anyways
pixiegerms 2nd-Mar-2013 04:46 pm (UTC)
schtick? what are you even talking about.
tiki876 2nd-Mar-2013 04:48 pm (UTC)
mte
bittermunchkin 2nd-Mar-2013 05:16 pm (UTC)
Pop punk, I assume.
maidenhell 2nd-Mar-2013 05:08 pm (UTC)
Same, tbh. Why does Avril Lavinge get flack for her songs/style, but these guys (who are a lot older) get a free pass? They are of the same contrived mall punk background.
untxi 2nd-Mar-2013 05:14 pm (UTC)
Completely agree. I find them incredibly annoying. Also, lots of Greenday fans here or so it seems.
francesbcobain 2nd-Mar-2013 05:31 pm (UTC)
ita.
celtic_thistle 2nd-Mar-2013 06:47 pm (UTC)
They're Gen X'ers. This is how they ARE. They have grown up--they don't sing about masturbating and getting high anymore. w/e it might be because I'm a stan, but I think their music has matured.
empirebird 2nd-Mar-2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
LOL this entire thread. American Idiot doesn't even fit into anything you guys are saying. That album was legit tight.
bouncinggoat 2nd-Mar-2013 07:22 pm (UTC)
What is this even?

Yes, god forbit we don't all dress alike and think alike. The horror! How dare they.
distant_lines 2nd-Mar-2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
Holy mother of font and size changes.
xliquidskiesx 2nd-Mar-2013 05:15 pm (UTC)
lol mte
lillyluna 2nd-Mar-2013 05:41 pm (UTC)
indeed.
jainypoo 2nd-Mar-2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
I feel horrible for him, but I'm glad he can talk about it in such a way that maybe someone who looks up to him can learn from his mistakes. Poor dude.
bienenkiste 2nd-Mar-2013 04:45 pm (UTC)
ita.
ohthyhorror 2nd-Mar-2013 04:46 pm (UTC)
does anyone really look up to him anymore though? Not asking to be a dick but I feel everyone from the early 2000's hot topic era moved on.
tiki876 2nd-Mar-2013 04:48 pm (UTC)
lol they were famous long before that. LOOONNNG time before and still are
kerrence 2nd-Mar-2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
early 2000s? good lord I must be a grandma
horrorparties 2nd-Mar-2013 04:52 pm (UTC)
lol early 2000s
beatupcar 2nd-Mar-2013 04:55 pm (UTC)
Early 2000's lol.
antumbral 2nd-Mar-2013 05:02 pm (UTC)
Eh. American Idiot (the musical) closed on Broadway in 2011 as perhaps the most successful show of the decade, and it's touring now to sold out audiences. So while the Hot Topic crowd may have moved on, Green Day remained culturally relevant.
jemab 2nd-Mar-2013 04:40 pm (UTC)
I see no spelling errors.
ohthyhorror 2nd-Mar-2013 04:43 pm (UTC)
oh you're one of those

Edited at 2013-03-02 04:44 pm (UTC)
jemab 2nd-Mar-2013 04:47 pm (UTC)
No really...this article is just written like SHIT. And I'm glad you fixed ur original comment lol...that was too easy.
mmmyesplease 2nd-Mar-2013 06:33 pm (UTC)
Really? I skimmed half of it and caught two.
empirebird 2nd-Mar-2013 06:56 pm (UTC)
This entire thread needs a sarcasm detector STAT.
antumbral 2nd-Mar-2013 04:44 pm (UTC)
At least he's honest.

I was there for a while with the booze, and I also did remember tiny things. Ironically, the fact that I could remember little details is what I used to convince myself for years that I didn't need help for addiction.

I really do feel for a rock star who will be playing concerts and knows that his audience will be trashed, most of the groupies and more than half the crew will be drinking, etc. He's going to be exposed to it constantly. That has to be the worst possible environment to go back into. I hope his bandmates are ready to be a little bit anal and a lot of bit insistent about helping out.
ohthyhorror 2nd-Mar-2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
if your bandmates are drinking, doing drugs, whatever while a fellow bandmate is in RECOVERY then wow what a bunch of dicks. I know it's not their fault but what happened to being a decent person?

it's like all of my toxic friends who constantly posted photos o women comparing breast size, body, etc. knowing very well I had body image issues. When I felt uncomfortable I was being a "whiny downer."
angi_is_altered 2nd-Mar-2013 04:51 pm (UTC)
He will absolutely need people to keep him in check and not let him get anywhere near drugs or booze. It's going to be rough considering the environment and those surrounding him.
ohthyhorror 2nd-Mar-2013 04:53 pm (UTC)
yeah I'm rooting for him honestly.
beatlesluv 2nd-Mar-2013 05:23 pm (UTC)
I wish him the best, he will defo need a lot of support now.
emofordino 3rd-Mar-2013 02:10 am (UTC)
seriously, it's hard enough to stay on the wagon when you're just dealing with making new friends who don't use and stuff. when your job makes you constantly surrounded by drugs and booze and those who are fucked up on them, it's going to be a challenge. i hope that he stays healthy, and i really hope that his bandmates will be a good support system for him on the road.
theavenue 2nd-Mar-2013 10:45 pm (UTC)
Mike has already said, "the backstage area doesn't need to be a bar and I'm ok with that".
tiki876 2nd-Mar-2013 04:47 pm (UTC)

I know Green Day isn't all that popular here on ONTD


which is a damn shame imo
bienenkiste 2nd-Mar-2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
yeah i don't really care about their music but i don't understand the amount of hate they get around here at all, tbh.
tiki876 2nd-Mar-2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
they don't deserve it tbh
ohthyhorror 2nd-Mar-2013 04:50 pm (UTC)
I use to like them back in my GAWF days and admittedly listening to them now, even their pre american idiot era stuff...they weren't really very good.
celtic_thistle 2nd-Mar-2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
I love them but yeah, the hate around here is ridic. This from a community that loves 1 Direction tho.
ladyofmachinery 2nd-Mar-2013 07:32 pm (UTC)
Is that the girl from Before Sunrise/Sunset in your icon or am I seeing things? If so... <333333333
beatupcar 2nd-Mar-2013 04:56 pm (UTC)
I agree :(
rebeljean 2nd-Mar-2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
I know. They're really great guys.
jessashoutbaby 2nd-Mar-2013 05:46 pm (UTC)
For real, they are amazing. I've been a fan of theirs since my freshman year of high school and still love them. American Idiot (the album) is a masterpiece. I saw the musical with Billy Joe as St. Jimmy, and he was fantastic.
diggingtrouble 2nd-Mar-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
it really is. people won't give them a chance just because it's not the "cool" thing to like green day since it's not 2005 anymore but they're great guys and the best live band i've ever seen.
empirebird 2nd-Mar-2013 06:57 pm (UTC)
i agreee smh
americnxidiot 2nd-Mar-2013 04:57 pm (UTC)
This is tough. Green Day was a formative band for me, both as a kid and then again as a teenager. I'm rooting for him.
beatupcar 2nd-Mar-2013 04:59 pm (UTC)
Great honest interview. I actually love this band, they will always hold a special place in my heart, I'm so happy he's getting healthy and I think Mike and Tré will help him every step of the way.
fatbom 2nd-Mar-2013 05:03 pm (UTC)
I wish him the best
haterswannabeme 2nd-Mar-2013 05:03 pm (UTC)
Could not resist the urge to look up the video of the 'meltdown'.

I've seen worse.
sunredskyblue 2nd-Mar-2013 05:09 pm (UTC)
lol me too. i don't think he was all that wrong either.
nationalboner 2nd-Mar-2013 05:27 pm (UTC)
MTE. It's bad that it was a drug and alcohol-fueled rant, but he wasn't wrong to be upset.
citrus00 2nd-Mar-2013 05:30 pm (UTC)
Was that when he was playing and started yelling cause he thought he had more time?
apatheticturtle 2nd-Mar-2013 05:08 pm (UTC)
so proud of my bb. rooting for him all the way.
did any green day fans see the q&a that mike did with rolling stone?
rebeljean 2nd-Mar-2013 05:25 pm (UTC)
This one? http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/alternate-take/q-a-green-days-mike-dirnt-on-billie-joe-armstrongs-recovery-20130301

I had originally made a post with Billie's full interview and added Mike's but the mods wanted me to cut it down.
chasethesun 2nd-Mar-2013 05:47 pm (UTC)
Mike is such a great guy and their friendship? <3
michelleantonia 3rd-Mar-2013 10:47 am (UTC)
RAYLAN & TIM <3

If we don't get more Tim this season, Graham Yost is hitting the top of my fucking shit list
xliquidskiesx 2nd-Mar-2013 05:16 pm (UTC)
I think it's great that he's so openly talking about it and I wish him all the best.
francesbcobain 2nd-Mar-2013 05:27 pm (UTC)
I'm glad he's doing better.
citrus00 2nd-Mar-2013 05:29 pm (UTC)
I like this interview a lot.
hateistoodark 2nd-Mar-2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
Glad he's getting better
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