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'Brave' director Brenda Chapman breaks silence: Getting taken off film


'Brave' director Brenda Chapman breaks silence: Getting taken off film 'heartbreaking... devastating... distressing'

When Pixar’s Brave arrived in theaters in June, two directors shared full credit for the film: Mark Andrews and Brenda Chapman. The project had originated with Chapman — who’d previously directed DreamWorks Animation’s The Prince of Egypt — but at the beginning of 2011, the studio took the reins from her completely and handed them to Andrews, who’d worked on The Incredibles and Ratatouille.


It was a surprising development to say the least, given that Chapman had been Pixar’s first female director of a feature length film, not to mention that Brave featured the studio’s first female protagonist, a fiery Scottish archer-princess named Merida (Kelly Macdonald). But other than a brief comment to the Los Angeles Times in 2011 that the split was due to “creative differences,” Chapman has remained silent on the matter. Until now.

In an essay for a larger New York Times feature about women’s perpetual underrepresentation in all corners of Hollywood, Chapman wrote that the past year and a half had been “a heartbreakingly hard road” for her. “When Pixar took me off of Brave — a story that came from my heart, inspired by my relationship with my daughter — it was devastating,” she writes.

While she still does not go into any specifics about why she was removed from the film, Chapman makes quite clear she did not agree with the decision. “Animation directors are not protected like live-action directors, who have the Directors Guild to go to battle for them,” she writes. “We are replaced on a regular basis — and that was a real issue for me. This was a story that I created, which came from a very personal place, as a woman and a mother. To have it taken away and given to someone else, and a man at that, was truly distressing on so many levels.”

Chapman does point out that ultimately her “vision” remained in the film, and that she remains “very proud of the movie.” But her last word on the matter (for now) would seem to suggest that after reportedly leaving Pixar to consult on an animation project for Lucasfilm, she’s not eager to return. “Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,” she writes. “Until there is a sufficient number of women executives in high places, this will continue to happen.”

When reached by EW, Pixar declined to comment.

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shigureblack 1st-Mar-2013 03:25 am (UTC)
Tho I think Brave was a bit overrated I was happy to see that they gave the Oscar to her and the other person after she was shafted for the Golden Globe.
one_hoopy_frood 1st-Mar-2013 03:26 am (UTC)
I hate what they did to her so much. It is appalling. And it breaks my heart to have to feel conflicted about supporting the movie and the character because I know in the end it was not the same story we should have gotten.
angelmonster 1st-Mar-2013 03:27 am (UTC)
Is there an official "reason" why she was let go? Like what did Pixar say?
snowweisz 1st-Mar-2013 03:40 am (UTC)
"Creative differences" which of course means whatever the fuck they want it to mean without actually saying anything.

A lot of what was said around the time of her being fired was about how the Brain Trust didn't want the story to be so focused on the mother/daughter story.
prettyfoot 1st-Mar-2013 04:22 am (UTC)
lol, wtf? What story is left if they took the mother/daughter story out of Brave.
jesums 1st-Mar-2013 06:43 am (UTC)
That was legit the most interesting part of the story though... without that it would have been really bad. smh pixar
xdecadentx 1st-Mar-2013 10:13 am (UTC)
TBH it was pretty focused anyway. I'm not sure how much more would have been interesting.
artisticdoodle 17th-May-2013 03:01 am (UTC)
Whelp, I'm a few months late to the party here, but this might answer your question.

Back in 2011 at Disney's D23 Expo there was a panel discussing the art of Brave. It was ran by Steve Pilcher (production designer) and Tia Kratter (art director) along with producer Katherine Sarafian. One of the key points made during this panel was that Brenda Chapman wanted three things from Pixar when it came to developing new 3D/CGI technology: a system for foliage/floral (that it appeared layered and breathing/alive), Merida's hair, and the layering of snow and how it would rest on the environment. Brenda wanted all three and wouldn't budge when it came to giving up on the snow part, as 80% of the film originally took place in a snowy environment (whereas the final film had maybe... 10 minutes of on screen snow time?). As for the reason to abandon ship on idea three, it appeared to me that the producer was tired of having the film in "production hell" and wanted it finished and done with so she could recoup her investment and get her profit.

Between that statement about the original film, how the producer seemed to not care for/be pissed off whenever Brenda Chapman's name was mentioned (so much so that Tia had to quickly step in and answer the "Why did you let Brenda go?" question that a young teenage boy asked during the Q&A), and the silence on Brenda Chapman's end... it seemed like the firing was a powerplay/political move to get the film out last year rather than having it delayed for another year or so.

As long as that producer is alive and successful or until the NDA (nondisclosure agreement) that Brenda Chapman was forced to sign when she was fired in null and void we won't know the whole story.

Regardless, the whole thing is fucking sad and there's at least a half hour on the cutting room floor up in Emeryville and the general public will never see it.
sandstorm 1st-Mar-2013 03:27 am (UTC)
I'll wait for a tell all further down the road.

At least they had her up there to get the Oscar (Still feel it was undeserved).
snowweisz 1st-Mar-2013 03:38 am (UTC)
I wonder how much of Brave winning was politics.

I always think it's weird that Wreck it Ralph won the Annie but Brave took the AA, and I don't know to what extent some of that was more about Brenda than about Pixar.
sandstorm 1st-Mar-2013 03:40 am (UTC)
Well in 2008, Kung Fu Panda won the Annie but lost the Oscar to...Ratatouille (which I love), but yeah...after that I don't feel their wins were deserved (and even if I can tolerate Cars 2, I'm happy it wasn't nominated and Rango won).

I wonder how much the Academy knew (or cared) about Brave's behind the scenes issues.
puremorning2468 1st-Mar-2013 10:27 am (UTC)
What I was most surprised about is how come Rise of the Guardians wasn't even nominated. IMO, that was the best animated movie of the year.
mammary_glands 1st-Mar-2013 03:28 am (UTC)
“Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,” she writes. “Until there is a sufficient number of women executives in high places, this will continue to happen.”

real talk.
supertex 1st-Mar-2013 03:49 am (UTC)
this kinda thing enrages me. i'm glad she's speaking out about it. i also hope that eventually we learn the details about what happened to her on Brave
mammary_glands 1st-Mar-2013 03:57 am (UTC)
agreed. i hope she (or someone else) blows the whistle on pixar's sexist shenanigans. this shit is just so unacceptable and i hate that it's such a deeply ingrained issue, that it's something that realistically would take changing almost every aspect of our society to correct... very disheartening stuff.
karis_azura 1st-Mar-2013 04:22 am (UTC)
So goddamned unfair :(
seishin 1st-Mar-2013 04:29 am (UTC)
Fucking truth. And its infuriating.
run_atreyu 1st-Mar-2013 10:58 am (UTC)
And the definition of 'mansplaining'. That word is so accurate and men do it all the fucking time.
poopanna 1st-Mar-2013 02:12 pm (UTC)
THIS RIGHT HERE.

I've had this happen to me, at an old job, multiple times.
aflaminghalo 1st-Mar-2013 02:23 pm (UTC)
So fucking accurate.


I don't even think it always comes down to the fact that men get taken seriously either. I think it's because when women speak, people just watch your mouth move rather than actually listen to what's coming out of it.

Edited at 2013-03-01 02:29 pm (UTC)
love_keiko 1st-Mar-2013 03:45 pm (UTC)
happens to me at my job ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME.
deathbytamarind 1st-Mar-2013 07:48 pm (UTC)
unfortunately so true
redleigh86 1st-Mar-2013 03:28 am (UTC)
“Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,” she writes. “Until there is a sufficient number of women executives in high places, this will continue to happen.”

Speaking volumes here, and it's so depressing. I get so angry when people (especially other women) insist that sexism no longer exists and men and women are on equal terms. If that were the case, shitty situations like this wouldn't happen.
jaimelannister 1st-Mar-2013 03:48 am (UTC)
My brother once stated (a few months ago) that we were equal/had as much equality as we would ever get

urgh
elstree 1st-Mar-2013 04:03 am (UTC)
a dude told me that sexism is over because we have female university presidents.
karis_azura 1st-Mar-2013 04:24 am (UTC)
Ive stated this fucked up mess before, but I once dated someone who said women shouldn't be able to vote because we have too many ~feelings. Of course he was a republican...
angelgurl21 1st-Mar-2013 04:44 am (UTC)
She is incredibly right.

I was so naive until the last few years in the workforce. Women have it SO much harder, and you know...women make it harder on other women too. There's just no winning. You can either get walked all over at jobs, or you can be assertive and be labeled as a bitch. There's no winning.
treebraids 1st-Mar-2013 09:41 am (UTC)
Even worse when fellow women shoot the idea down only to embrace it when a man suggests it. Happened to me so many times.
emofordino 1st-Mar-2013 03:04 pm (UTC)
and not only do they think we're equal, there are still many who INSIST that women get preferential treatment over men, i still don't get it at all.

i read an article about a study on teachers and how much more frequently they called on boys in class instead of girls, and it was SO out of balance, like, girls spoke 20% of the time and boys the rest of it. so when teachers started being aware of it and calling on girls more, the boys acted as though the girls were called on much more often when they were still only speaking like, 40% of the time.
evett 1st-Mar-2013 03:29 am (UTC)
I thought she was going to break her silence as to why she wore that outfit to the oscars.
crowded_dreams 1st-Mar-2013 04:16 pm (UTC)
Thank you. It was horrendous. She looked like she got lost on her way to a Wild West saloon girl costume party.
superdogbiter 1st-Mar-2013 03:32 am (UTC)
This really fucking sucks because she had already co directed prince of Egypt and dreamworks had a female direct a sequel to one of their biggest films.
Say what you want about the quality of their films but at least dreamworks actually lets women direct
Brenda come back to Dreamworks
snowweisz 1st-Mar-2013 03:35 am (UTC)
KungFu Panda kicks ass tbh.
I only watched it for Jennifer but that movie was amazing.
milkradio 1st-Mar-2013 03:42 am (UTC)
ia, Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2 were both really great.
sandstorm 1st-Mar-2013 03:39 am (UTC)
DW Lets women direct AND they were the first studio to let a black man direct a CGI movie.
bodyline 1st-Mar-2013 03:40 am (UTC)
Dreamworks has also had female protagonists, iirc, waaay before Pixar did.
christoph 1st-Mar-2013 01:23 pm (UTC)
ikr. I don't care what people say, I will always stan for Dreamworks over Pixar. because of all the reasons in this comment and also because they made my favorite movie of all time (httyd)

I just realized that I dont have any icons from that movie and I hate myself for it.
deearem This shit right here:1st-Mar-2013 03:33 am (UTC)
Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,” she writes.
numbedtoe Re: This shit right here:1st-Mar-2013 03:36 am (UTC)
yep. on a personal level, it drives me fucking nuts when people do that to me. don't say something i did ten minutes later like it was your idea.
seishin Re: This shit right here:1st-Mar-2013 04:31 am (UTC)
It happened to me today, and yesterday, by the same person @ work. I was literally seeing red.
mana_runigha 1st-Mar-2013 04:56 am (UTC)
I've always wanted to do an experiment where I and a male friend/person make two separate Youtube videos arguing about something possibly sexist. The videos would be identical except who is narrating. I want to see if the two videos would get a different reaction if a man or a woman were the one's the audience would be hearing.
run_atreyu Re: This shit right here:1st-Mar-2013 10:57 am (UTC)
I've just said this above, but this is the very definition of 'mansplaining'. Every time I've talked to other women and mentioned this term, every single woman has had an, "OMG: YES" moment and you can see them attaching the word to moment after moment in their lives. A friend on FB decided to go in on the word one night out of nowhere and called it 'bad feminism'. Fucking blindly privileged douche (male, of course). Calling it regular old 'condescension' totally ignores from whence this particular brand of condescension stems - sexism.
donnanoble 1st-Mar-2013 03:33 am (UTC)
that's really sad :(
but kudos to her for prince of egypt, that is literally one of my favorite movies of all time
mhfromnh 1st-Mar-2013 05:54 am (UTC)
friggin awesome movie and I'm the heathen of the family. I love the bit while everybody's crossing to the Sinai, and there's a WHALE in the water beside them.
run_atreyu 1st-Mar-2013 11:00 am (UTC)
Agreed, I hadn't realised it had a female director until now and my ears picked right up. Makes sense, to be honest. It's the only animated movie I've liked as an adult. Not to say there may not be others, but none of the others have drawn me in enough to even bother watching.
wonderwomanhero 1st-Mar-2013 03:34 am (UTC)
Fuck Pixar. End of story
snowweisz 1st-Mar-2013 03:35 am (UTC)

“Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,”


I know I stan for her, but this is something I've been saying for about a year now: If you look at Finding Nemo, it is essentially a story of Father/Son and everybody praises it up and down and Pixar glorified the shit out of it and Andrew Stanton.
But when Brenda tried to do a Mother/Daughter story, it was all hmm nope, ain't nobody that wants to watch that.

And I am pissed as fuck that Andrew whatshisname got to speak before Brenda and thanked John Lasseter and Ed Catmull. Those 2 gross misogynists can smd
scarletfbl 1st-Mar-2013 04:26 am (UTC)
couldn't have said it better.
arrowtoes 1st-Mar-2013 05:37 am (UTC)
mte when he spoke first, I was gonna break something if she got played off with the Jaws music after he was first to the mic.
superdogbiter 1st-Mar-2013 03:36 am (UTC)
I really feel deeply hurt by what Pixar has done because that was a big part of my childhood. Their movies were so magical I naively thought they were equal rights for both genders. Boy was I fucking stupid.
It's like watching your childhood hero kick a puppy or something
bas_saarebas 1st-Mar-2013 03:38 am (UTC)
SHE DIRECTED PRINCE OF EGYPT?

Pixar, you done goofed.
mhfromnh I know right1st-Mar-2013 05:58 am (UTC)
zparklemotion Re: I know right1st-Mar-2013 11:35 am (UTC)
favorite part uuuuugh i love this imagery sfm
must_go_faster Re: I know right1st-Mar-2013 01:24 pm (UTC)
I love the whole movie but lbr this is the scene I'm waiting for every time, so eerie and beautiful and the music and ugh perfection, I just teared up writing this shit lol
rogue 1st-Mar-2013 03:39 am (UTC)
“Sometimes women express an idea and are shot down, only to have a man express essentially the same idea and have it broadly embraced,” she writes.

:(
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