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12:56 pm - 02/27/2013

'Zero Dark Thirty' 9/11 Phone Calls Used Without Permission, Says Upset Mom Of Victim





A Connecticut woman whose son died in the Sept. 11 attacks at the World Trade Center says she's upset the Oscar-winning movie "Zero Dark Thirty" used a recording of his last words without her permission.

Mary Fetchet of New Canaan told CBS News and the Daily News this week that she was shocked the filmmakers didn't ask if they could use the voicemail her son, Bradley Fetchet, left on her phone while he was on the 89th floor of the World Trade Center's south tower.

The movie about the manhunt for Osama bin Laden begins with the voices of 9/11 victims making their last phone calls.

Sony Pictures Entertainment said in a statement that the filmmakers contacted several relatives of 9/11 victims about using the voice recordings.

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snoozeen 27th-Feb-2013 06:05 pm (UTC)
Oh god, could you imagine going to watch this movie and hearing that and not being prepared?

If this is true, that is NOT OK.
iluvkidnappers 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
oh god, i won't even go there. that's potential PTSD trigger right there :\
johnnyabatti 27th-Feb-2013 06:55 pm (UTC)
This. What the fuck is wrong with these people? It's just entertainment I guess hey
whutness 27th-Feb-2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
That is horrifying honestly.
kampfbaby 28th-Feb-2013 11:20 pm (UTC)
it really is :/
bananasnrum 28th-Feb-2013 12:03 am (UTC)
But you're going to see a movie about the USA killing Osama Bin Laden. How could you NOT expect anything related to 9/11 to be presented. HOW.
mjspice 28th-Feb-2013 05:09 pm (UTC)
Ikr? What kind of fuckery really??
preflyer 27th-Feb-2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
I really liked ZDT, but those opening scenes and recordings were so not necessary. Especially the one where the guy is like "..oh my god" and the phone goes dead. yeah... I just.. don't need to hear those ever again.
numbedtoe 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
those calls were horrific. i don't think any of us forgot how horrific they were and i know most of them are up on youtube but....

that was fucking hard to watch.
d00ditsemily 27th-Feb-2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
idk you have to think about people that are 18 and went to see this. I know I'm 22 and I was blocked from seeing 9/11 news when it happened.
briknowsbest 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
yeah ia.
stellar_ball 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
I feel like I have a stone heart because they didn't affect me, buuut, I feel they weren't necessary because it didn't do anything for the film except manipulate those watching who would be affected by it. If that makes sense.
goldengal1193 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
Haven't seen the movie, but I know which call you're talking about. Ugggh so heartbreaking.
spankmypirate 27th-Feb-2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
Yep and then we cut straight to that torture scene. Very manipulative.
ljubavirakija 27th-Feb-2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
MTE
ani_di_franco 27th-Feb-2013 06:13 pm (UTC)
MTE, they really add nothing to the movie or plot.
tiki876 27th-Feb-2013 06:15 pm (UTC)
mfte
teenageriot16 27th-Feb-2013 06:19 pm (UTC)
I kind of understand why they were used though, and it's better than replaying the towers falling, but could the producers have not used actors voices? Or even just played the military tapes from that day?
rimbaudacious 27th-Feb-2013 06:24 pm (UTC)
mte, I'm not one for sugarcoating this type of stuff or sticking your head in the sand but all of it just seems exploitative as fuck. Tasteless all around.
lostinshalott 27th-Feb-2013 06:32 pm (UTC)
same
xpirate_queenx 27th-Feb-2013 08:19 pm (UTC)
I've listened to the call you mentioned exactly once and I never want to again. I'm usually pretty tolerant to shocking stuff, but that one cut me deep.
heyx_lyla 27th-Feb-2013 08:34 pm (UTC)
I've heard that call before and it's absolutely heartbreaking.
goofusgallant 27th-Feb-2013 10:09 pm (UTC)
iawtc
ludmi_83 27th-Feb-2013 10:41 pm (UTC)
omg they use that one??? :/
leatherandjeans 1st-Mar-2013 01:04 am (UTC)
I didn't even know they were real. That changes my whole view of the film. It's too much, too far.
winniechili 27th-Feb-2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
If that's true they used it without permission I wouldn't be surprised.
tiki876 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
mte
exlenne 27th-Feb-2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
I haven't seen the movie yet, but ... they seriously used ACTUAL audio of the victims' ACTUAL FINAL WORDS in the film?

That's gross even with permission. Zero Dark Thirty is not a documentary, it's a Hollywood blockbuster that happens to be about a real world event. Stuff that real has no place in it. That'd be using footage of actual emaciated Auschwitz victims in Inglorious Basterds or something.

Urgh, I never want to see this movie, everything about it rubs me the wrong way, and the more I hear the worse it gets.
sunshine_flying 27th-Feb-2013 06:14 pm (UTC)
This.
teenageriot16 27th-Feb-2013 06:30 pm (UTC)
I'm sure there's been historical footage in Hollywood blockbusters before though, from Hiroshima, Vietnam, WW2, WW1 etc etc.
exlenne 27th-Feb-2013 06:34 pm (UTC)
And the towers going down / being hit have been played out in everything, but that isn't quite the same thing or nearly as personal as showing identifiable bodies or playing recorded messages.
silentxstrom 27th-Feb-2013 06:51 pm (UTC)
exactly.
loveumbrella 27th-Feb-2013 06:55 pm (UTC)
I agree. I was actually thinking of (illegally) watching this movie just so I could form my own opinion on it, but especially after this I'm all "lol nope"
johnnyabatti 27th-Feb-2013 06:58 pm (UTC)
Yup. Especially that last part there.
ectypes 27th-Feb-2013 08:47 pm (UTC)
THIS this this this
hormoaning 27th-Feb-2013 09:00 pm (UTC)
mte
hisjulliet 27th-Feb-2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
Exactly. It's not a documentary; those recordings should have not been used in some entertainment film. jfc
liddlebins 27th-Feb-2013 09:13 pm (UTC)
ugh. yeah. thank you for putting it that way, it's true. if it were a documentary, sure; perhaps. but not for a blockbuster.
nekokonneko 27th-Feb-2013 10:38 pm (UTC)
absolutely. there was a post on tumblr about michelle obama surrounded by military personnel while announcing argo as winner for best picture legitimized it as real in the eyes of the audience, and i feel the same applies here.
bananasnrum 28th-Feb-2013 12:05 am (UTC)
I disagree about your last line, since Inglorious Basterds was a fictionalized take on events. It in no way tried to present itself as a "Based on a True Story" film.
leatherandjeans 1st-Mar-2013 01:04 am (UTC)
Right?? I had no idea and now I feel sick having seen it
gomezxhenrie 27th-Feb-2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
And she just found out about this after the movie won several awards?
jumping_down 27th-Feb-2013 06:09 pm (UTC)
It's also possible that she found out about it, but the reporters only dug up the story now that the movie is prominent. Or it was a story in the making until they got to talk to her.
antoniascarlett 27th-Feb-2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
Several complaints about ZDT and Argo are only bubbling up now.

I think they held back (or were convinced to) until after the awards.
liddlebins 27th-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
yeah, that was my thought, too

why not sooner? but who really knows
imnotasquirrel 27th-Feb-2013 06:07 pm (UTC)
that's just cruel

i listened to some of the 9/11 calls and...just...god. :(
brenden 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
i wonder how they got the voicemail in the first place
numbedtoe 27th-Feb-2013 06:09 pm (UTC)
most are up on youtube since they've been part of news specials. so that's my guess how they got it, from yt or a news show.
exlenne 27th-Feb-2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
I'm assuming they were all released previously in some sort of official capacity. There are many on youtube, I'm not sure who released them. Perhaps released as a part of the 9/11 Commission? I'd be interested to know as well.

It's entirely possible his mother released it as a part of history, perhaps for a particular use, but did not intend for its widespread use or without seeking permission? I don't know.
agentnever 27th-Feb-2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
A lot of 9/11 call recordings are on YouTube. A lot of people's last words with a 911 operator.
teenageriot16 27th-Feb-2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
I read a few comments that the actual ownership of these recordings is really fuzzy, with some people claiming it belongs to the government and others says it's public property.
ludmi_83 27th-Feb-2013 10:47 pm (UTC)
news archive even the fbi or the pentagon can give Hollywood material.
The pentagon has comunication and press people that helps hollywood movies about the army things, every war movie they do that
goldengal1193 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
Oh hell no. I would be pissed. When it comes to people's family(especially those who have passed), don't fuck around.
shahoney 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 pm (UTC)
Like I needed any more reasons to hate this fucking movie. I hate this fucking movie.
lolseriously 27th-Feb-2013 07:15 pm (UTC)
me too
cheeseasauras 28th-Feb-2013 08:52 am (UTC)
just out of curiosity, why do you hate it?
spartacus 27th-Feb-2013 06:09 pm (UTC)
I wonder if they called for permission or just called to let them know they were using the voicemails...
deearem 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
Those calls were so hard to listen to. Really set the tone for the whole movie tbh, which is obviously why they used them. Saying it's fucked up that they didn't ask for permission is beyond an understatement. :/
groundcrown 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
wow that is not ok
spankmypirate 27th-Feb-2013 06:10 pm (UTC)
Ugh.

I'm so glad that this film flopped at the Oscars.
just444 27th-Feb-2013 06:11 pm (UTC)
i think the 9/11 calls are public property, but it's still shitty using them without asking the families
thetxbelle 27th-Feb-2013 06:24 pm (UTC)
Is a private phone call made to your family before you died public property though??
antoniascarlett 27th-Feb-2013 06:27 pm (UTC)
Yes, I think so too...

Once a person has died, their right to privacy is greatly diminished (in a legal sense).

That's why you can dig up so much info on all of those genealogy sites, until you get to the living relatives...then you hit a privacy wall.
pippopippo 27th-Feb-2013 06:39 pm (UTC)
Maybe a 911 (police) call is public, but a voicemail left on her phone? :(

Edited at 2013-02-27 06:40 pm (UTC)
zeldafitzgerald 27th-Feb-2013 07:01 pm (UTC)
A lot of the voicemail recordings were used during the 9/11 Commission to establish chronology of events and determine building security and evacuation failures, etc.
iluvkidnappers 27th-Feb-2013 06:12 pm (UTC)
oh fuck no. that must have been traumatizing, for any family/loved one to hear their loved ones last words, let alone in a theater where its unexpected
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