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2:36 pm - 02/19/2013

Lena Dunham made me a feminist



by Nathan Walker

Mere seconds after tweeting that my pitch to write this article was accepted, some random guy on Twitter had this to say to me: "Lena Dunham is the voice of a masturbatory, hyper-self & her pathological titty baring represents Generation Shit."

I mean, such vitriole and hate for a woman who makes a comedic television show that you can't even watch on public TV!?!?

For years now, my wife has insisted that I'm a feminist despite my arguments that I'm not. She says that since I believe a woman has the right to work for the same pay as any man that I'm inherently a feminist. My half-hearted response was that I couldn't possibly be. I've never read any feminist literature, never participated in a rally, and I certainly can't stand behind the idea that a woman can do everything a man can (or vice versa). To be clear though, I do believe in equal rights, equal pay for equal work and that, intellectually men and women are equals. I also totally love the way women look naked. So, I couldn't possibly be a feminist, right?

In steps, Lena Dunham and her show that you've no doubt heard all about by now, Girls. A show that I personally find to be wildly entertaining despite the fact that the male characters make my skin crawl. Girls instantly became quite controversial as it's a comedic television show that is breaking new ground by depicting the lives of young, white people in their 20s. Also, it's the only TV show where there's no ethnic diversity. Oh, and and and, it's the only TV show that attempts to take a humorous look at the lives of people transitioning from childhood into adulthood. Oh, jeesh, I forgot it's also the only television show that allows women to be on camera naked. Shit! One more thing, it's also the only TV show that focuses on people of enough privilege and money that they can waste their days away following their whims.


Wait a minute! There are hundreds upon hundreds of TV shows that do all of the above things, sometimes all at once. So what is it about this TV show that makes it such a lightning rod for hate. Hate for her body. Hate for the lack of diversity. Hate for the characters' privileged lives. Hate for the fantasy scenarios of her characters having sex with men out of their league? Oh, wait, I know. It's the only successful TV show that's written and directed by a young woman. That is truly the only thing unique about the creation of this show when held up against the multitudes of other television shows that are doing similar things.

Did Kareem Abdul Jabbar take off his goggles, put down his sky hook, and take to the Huffington Post to publicly shame Judd Apatow (a.k.a., the producer of Girls) when he wrote and produced a similarly themed show called Freaks & Geeks? It didn't have titties, but it did have an entirely white cast of teens set in Detroit fucking Michigan. Was the main character a self-centered girl who used people and her parents to get what she wanted? You bet your ass she was. Did the feminists cry and say "but what does Lindsay Weir stand for!?!?" No, they didn't. Why? Because it was a TV show written and produced for our entertainment. You either liked it or you didn't.

Where are the complaints of racism for another one of HBO's hit TV shows, Game Of Thrones, whose only characters of ethnicity are bloodthirsty, shirtless primitives? Likewise, where are the complaints about the main characters in that show being overprivileged when, clearly, the main characters flounce around like they're goddamned kings and queens. Where are the cries of "goddammit, Daenerys, put your tits away!!!" after every episode in which she whips her tits out? Oh, you don't care because, clearly, it's a show made solely for our entertainment and her tits suit your vision of Playboy tits? Why the fuck would we hold the writer of this show up to any public scrutiny for creating an imaginary realm where old, fat men fuck teenage women in every episode?

Want to talk about privileged white people and vapid, disgusting unrealistic behavior? Let's talk about Entourage! Here is a television show that is meant to entertain us by following the exploits of three young, white men who follow a celebrity around leaching off of his money, cars, houses, booze, drugs, and even his female admirers. There's not a single moment of that show that's not offensive to every single one of us yet it gracefully sidesteps public scorn under the guise of entertainment.

I know, I ask a lot of why's here but can someone tell me why the world at large has put this woman under so much public scrutiny, hate, and controversy? If you can point me to one single thing that sets her apart from her numerous counterparts making television entertainment beyond the fact that she's a young woman, I'm all ears.

So, Lena Dunham, you've managed to do a few things here: You've managed to make me laugh; you've managed to make me cringe at that Adam character too many times; but more importantly, you've proven my wife to be correct (as usual) and confirmed that I am indeed a feminist. The sheer volume of public outcry over your show has pulled off my blinders to the reality of how our culture deals with a successful woman. I apologize that I've not caught on sooner, but, thankfully, it's never too late to change. Now, I'm going to settle in and watch a nation of internet police tweet, blog, Facebook, and, hell, maybe even pinterest the ways that I and you are completely wrong. But don't worry, the number of people fighting for your right to have a job making television shows just increased by one.

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hangthemj 19th-Feb-2013 08:38 pm (UTC)
champagnexdream 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
Omg Kenan & Kel. My jammm.
brucelynn 19th-Feb-2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
LMMAOOOOO
goofusgallant 19th-Feb-2013 08:53 pm (UTC)
lolol
backincharge 19th-Feb-2013 08:56 pm (UTC)
rofl
hellomeru 19th-Feb-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
lmao
zoaster_toaster 19th-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
Best theme song to a tv show ever.






Yeah, I said it.
plugmebaby 20th-Feb-2013 03:55 pm (UTC)
EVERYBODY GO RUN AND TELL
YA HOMEBOYS AND HOMEGIRLS ITS TIME FOR KENAN AND KELLLL

THEY KEEP YOU LAUGHIN IN THE AFTANOON
SO DONT TOUCH THAT DIAL BLBLALBAZOOM
ohyoudo 19th-Feb-2013 09:51 pm (UTC)
fucking love this gif
saltonmycuts 19th-Feb-2013 10:11 pm (UTC)
They should put this show on dvd.
drunkagron 19th-Feb-2013 10:21 pm (UTC)
LMAO
lillyluna 20th-Feb-2013 01:35 am (UTC)
Your icon alone would have been great, judging MPhelps.
logan_lerman 19th-Feb-2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
"by Nathan Walker"

stopped reading
iluvkidnappers 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
whats his body of work known for?
thecanuckian 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
ia, men shouldn't be feminists
chandyland11 19th-Feb-2013 08:44 pm (UTC)
wait what
la_petite_singe 19th-Feb-2013 08:45 pm (UTC)
Sarcasm?
logan_lerman 19th-Feb-2013 08:47 pm (UTC)
they should be
just not lena's version of "feminism"
outpour 19th-Feb-2013 09:26 pm (UTC)
lol you're joking right
devetu 19th-Feb-2013 08:48 pm (UTC)
this
coldmemory 19th-Feb-2013 08:50 pm (UTC)
same
brenden 19th-Feb-2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
she is a beacon of hope in this dark, evil world
hoechlingurl 19th-Feb-2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
Oh FFS


littlehayzay 19th-Feb-2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
Good points but of course the sad thing is that this will be taken more seriously simply because a man wrote it - because when women point these things out, it's viewed as complaining or whinging or a whole host of other things, but when a man says it - oh it's an insightful, thoughtful argument suddenly.
thecanuckian 19th-Feb-2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
and when men write it it's considered invalid

at least on ONTD
thishollywood 19th-Feb-2013 08:45 pm (UTC)
lol & if it was on ontd_political the post wuld be full of DO U WANT A COOKIE???!!??? statements



like jeez lay off plz, no1 wants ur calorie-biscuits
invisible_cunt 19th-Feb-2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
i saw that it was written by a man, then the "my wife" part
couldn't get past the second bolded paragraph without rolling my eyes and laughing
astormatsea 19th-Feb-2013 08:44 pm (UTC)
yeah but like

To be clear though, I do believe in equal rights, equal pay for equal work and that, intellectually men and women are equals. I also totally love the way women look naked. So, I couldn't possibly be a feminist, right?

what even
blueboatdreams 19th-Feb-2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
you're kidding me right?


did you read the article?
kurtvonnegut 19th-Feb-2013 08:59 pm (UTC)
yep
mighty_romance 19th-Feb-2013 08:39 pm (UTC)
Here we go.
iluvkidnappers 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
if it takes her to make you a feminist....idk what to say honestly


except UGH
abiding 19th-Feb-2013 08:43 pm (UTC)
lol mte
maebytonight 19th-Feb-2013 08:45 pm (UTC)
lmao mte
logan_lerman 19th-Feb-2013 08:48 pm (UTC)
basically lmao
ellie_andrews 19th-Feb-2013 08:55 pm (UTC)
lol irl
rewrittentime 19th-Feb-2013 08:59 pm (UTC)
lmao
francesbcobain 19th-Feb-2013 09:04 pm (UTC)
mte
bohhead 19th-Feb-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
ifkr
vivifromff9 19th-Feb-2013 10:35 pm (UTC)
HA
yousaidlog 20th-Feb-2013 01:00 am (UTC)
lol mte
livingindreams9 20th-Feb-2013 02:15 pm (UTC)
That's not what he was saying. He said her show isn't anything special or something we haven't seen before, but people shit on it constantly because it was written and directed by a female. He thinks the double standard is major bullshit.

That's why she made him a feminist. Because she should be able to make a Wonder Bread show without having people raging on her for making a Wonder Bread show.

That's it. Good-bye.

iluvkidnappers 20th-Feb-2013 02:36 pm (UTC)
ummm i read it.

his problem is that he doesn't realize feminism means exactly what he already thought before:

For years now, my wife has insisted that I'm a feminist despite my arguments that I'm not. She says that since I believe a woman has the right to work for the same pay as any man that I'm inherently a feminist. My half-hearted response was that I couldn't possibly be. I've never read any feminist literature, never participated in a rally, and I certainly can't stand behind the idea that a woman can do everything a man can (or vice versa). To be clear though, I do believe in equal rights, equal pay for equal work and that, intellectually men and women are equals. I also totally love the way women look naked. So, I couldn't possibly be a feminist, right?



try again
mjspice 21st-Feb-2013 12:08 pm (UTC)
iawtc
champagnexdream 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
Are there ANY flattering photos of her? Serious question. Even though I already know the answer.

But really, look at that dog's face. Even without her in the pic he would be adorable, but he's either really excited she's making him look even better OR really upset he has to be that close to her chest.

Edited at 2013-02-19 08:41 pm (UTC)
chandyland11 19th-Feb-2013 08:48 pm (UTC)
She needs hair and/or really good lighting but it's been known to happen on rare occasions.











Edited at 2013-02-19 08:49 pm (UTC)
champagnexdream 19th-Feb-2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
The first one is really pretty. Fourth is OK, and fifth would be OK if it wasn't for that tooth.

Edited at 2013-02-19 08:49 pm (UTC)
chandyland11 19th-Feb-2013 08:51 pm (UTC)
She has really pretty eyes imo, she just never does anything to accent them so they always seem plain.

dumpweeds 19th-Feb-2013 09:02 pm (UTC)
she looks way better with longer hair. I don't think she's ugly at all, she just has a shitty style lol
holyfrijoles_2 19th-Feb-2013 09:03 pm (UTC)
So does she make herself look bad on purpose? She looks v pretty in some of the candid shots.
francesbcobain 19th-Feb-2013 09:04 pm (UTC)
She looks much better with long hair.
sandvich 19th-Feb-2013 09:01 pm (UTC)
I think she's a really pretty girl who doesn't know how to dress herself. Put her in the hands of a stylist and she can look really, really nice.
eccentricvibe 19th-Feb-2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
When you said look at that dog's face, I thought you were referring to Lena at first.
rimbaudacious 19th-Feb-2013 08:40 pm (UTC)
After reading this whole thing it makes sense that it took Lena Dunham for him to become a feminist.
invisible_cunt 19th-Feb-2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
oh damn i can't wait to come back to this post later
astormatsea 19th-Feb-2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
I know, I ask a lot of why's here but can someone tell me why the world at large has put this woman under so much public scrutiny, hate, and controversy?

shes an IDIOT, bye
zygopetalum 21st-Feb-2013 03:38 am (UTC)
mte.
i am a friend of his and i tried explaining this and some people on his facebook were like BUT WE'VE MET PEOPLE LIKE HER IRL SO IT'S FIIINNNEEEE, THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS! SHE'S JUST LIKE THIS.

and that makes it OK or better, how?
wonderwomanhero 19th-Feb-2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
She is like mayonnaise
queen_insane 19th-Feb-2013 08:46 pm (UTC)
I just had a good giggle fit
riookierin 19th-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
Hdu!

She's obv Miracle Whip.
pilotesse 20th-Feb-2013 02:58 am (UTC)
LOL
saltonmycuts 19th-Feb-2013 11:24 pm (UTC)
mayonnaise is good though? more like mustard imo.
blueboatdreams 19th-Feb-2013 08:41 pm (UTC)
tl;dr



I don't have time for this ignorance.

Edited at 2013-02-19 08:43 pm (UTC)
thishollywood 19th-Feb-2013 08:43 pm (UTC)
da white kind
invisible_cunt 19th-Feb-2013 08:43 pm (UTC)
HE BELIEVES THAT WOMEN AND MEN SHOULD GET EQUAL PAY, OK
sicksiqsick 19th-Feb-2013 10:01 pm (UTC)
lol, right? that's all i got out of this. like congrats dude, you're not a total shit head.
ronnie_luvs_u 19th-Feb-2013 08:49 pm (UTC)
pls. Lena Duhnam made him a feminist. the idea that there are different kinds probably hasn't even crossed his mind.
xevochic 19th-Feb-2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
The kind who certainly can't stand behind the idea that a woman can do everything a man can (or vice versa) apparently.
bohhead 19th-Feb-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
the kind with a payniss, i guess
katina921 19th-Feb-2013 08:42 pm (UTC)
I only read a sentence of this and it's all I need. No ty. Feminism does not need you / this article.
skonka 19th-Feb-2013 08:43 pm (UTC)
Feminism needs men though. Otherwise, what's the point?
liberatores 19th-Feb-2013 08:45 pm (UTC)
female domination of the inferior gender? isn't that what we're working for?
blueboatdreams 19th-Feb-2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
feminism can include(and encourage participation from) men. does not need them.

However, if a guy is stepping in the ring saying: NO ONE HAS EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE CRIPPLING PATRIARCHY BEFORE NOW BECAUSE LENA DUNHAM IS SO TALENTED AND AMAZING AND SUCCESSFUL,

obviously he doesn't know shit and should just take a seat.
katina921 19th-Feb-2013 08:59 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't say feminism necessarily needs men...not that men can't be feminists - of course they can, and they can bring value -but we don't need men, either. I don't know what you're trying to say when you say that but it makes me think that we need men to grant us equality, which is dangerous and icky and untrue. I don't think women are above men or anything, and I welcome men who are really, truly feminists, but women have been braking down barriers without them just fine.

Besides that, when did I say above that feminism doesn't need men? Because I don't think feminism needs this idiot who wouldn't identify as a feminist until he saw Lena's body? This guy, who despite his new epiphany, still says some decidedly anti-feminist and weird things? You've drawn a very strange conclusion and it's not something I said.
babyyouloveit 19th-Feb-2013 09:31 pm (UTC)
Feminism needs everyone because it's the right way to think

Idg these negative comments
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