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8:53 am - 02/03/2013

Lena Dunham Wears Something and Says Things at the DGA Awards

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Lena wears something to the Director's Guild Awards

Lena Dunham isn't letting Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's harsh review of Girls get to her.

"I have to admit, I only skimmed it," Dunham just told me at the DGA Awards in Hollywood. "It seemed like a mixed review and I have a policy about not reading those."

Besides, it's not like the basketball legend's work as a television critic ever crossed her mind.

"[Abdul-Jabbar's] review of Girls was called to my attention on Twitter," Dunham said. "And I blurted out to my dad, 'Kareem Abdul-Jabbar reviewed Girls.' And he said, 'I don't even know how to process that. I don't even know what that means.'"

Abdul-Jabbar lashed out at Dunham for her casting of black actor Donald Glover as a love interest for Dunham's character Hannah because "it came across as forced" after she faced criticism for the show's lack of diversity.

He wrote on Huffington Post that "a black dildo would have sufficed and cost less."

Criticism aside, Dunham did say she could imagine the NBA Hall of Famer appearing on Girls some day.

"Kareem crushed it on New Girl," she gushed. (Abdul-Jabbar guest starred as himself on New Girl in April.) "So if we're ever in need of a Kareem type, he's definitely the first person I'd go to."

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iprevail 3rd-Feb-2013 02:56 pm (UTC)
"So if we're ever in need of a Kareem type, he's definitely the first person I'd go to."

i don't like this comment but i can't really figure out why.
frenchverbs 3rd-Feb-2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
It's a passive aggressive slight that she's pretending is a compliment.
mynamehere07 3rd-Feb-2013 03:08 pm (UTC)
I don't think she's that clever.
littlebones 3rd-Feb-2013 03:06 pm (UTC)
well i doubt she sees the need to cast another black person
forgethissmile 3rd-Feb-2013 03:13 pm (UTC)
It's really, really irking me too, and I can't fully spell out why.
for_serious13 3rd-Feb-2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
irks me too
cukoo4cocopuffs 3rd-Feb-2013 03:51 pm (UTC)
Didn't like it either.
sosinprogress 3rd-Feb-2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
"If we ever need that type of black, he'll do just fine"
ludmi_83 3rd-Feb-2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
It's cos she say "type"
technomat 3rd-Feb-2013 04:33 pm (UTC)
she's trying to be funny but it reads like "if we ever need a black man" so it seems to confirm Kareem's assessment
hrhobo 3rd-Feb-2013 09:20 pm (UTC)
the fact she is putting him on her Black(guys)List of potential diversity point earnings for Girls.

... as if he would consider appear on that show. like... read his criticism before making that comment, lena... my god she is like so dumb.
poetic_daze 3rd-Feb-2013 02:57 pm (UTC)
she is so off-putting. in just every aspect
winegums 3rd-Feb-2013 02:59 pm (UTC)
I love that her reaction to criticism of whitewashing/racial stereotyping is either 'why can't we all talk about it first!' and then, when someone does spell it out (Kareem), complete incomprehension of why she's being called out.

Of course she doesn't get it.
mynamehere07 3rd-Feb-2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
She's clumping in what Kareem said as "oop, just another hater, nocurr."

I can understand if she doesn't want to pay attention to the "fat, dumpy chick," critics like Howard Stern; but she's throwing out the baby with the bathwater by deciding to not read any criticism.
winegums 3rd-Feb-2013 03:11 pm (UTC)
ia, bitching about her body is nagl and the 'fat, dumpy chick' critics can fuck off because they just derail the perfectly valid criticisms people do make.
littlebones 3rd-Feb-2013 03:05 pm (UTC)
what's she talking about, i thought she loved reading hate about her show??
whiskybars 3rd-Feb-2013 03:07 pm (UTC)
i doubt she'll ever understand the criticisms her show gets and i find that kind of sad
sandvich 3rd-Feb-2013 03:08 pm (UTC)
How does she manage to be so terrible-dressed all the time?
winegums 3rd-Feb-2013 03:13 pm (UTC)
shitty posture has a lot to do with it but I guess it's not zeitgesity to stand straight.
pineandapple 3rd-Feb-2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
OMG, thank you. I've been talking about her shitty posture for months and it's like no one else sees it. She has no neck.
kristinkat 3rd-Feb-2013 03:30 pm (UTC)
and hollywood isn't great at dressing non-sample sizes
nimberlane 3rd-Feb-2013 03:10 pm (UTC)
lol I have to say her ability to miss the point and not give a fuck is astounding...
howlcosmiclove 3rd-Feb-2013 03:20 pm (UTC)
seriously
hola_meg_a_cola 3rd-Feb-2013 04:08 pm (UTC)
mte
ceilidh_ann 3rd-Feb-2013 08:53 pm (UTC)
I've been saying it for a while but for a woman who is lauded for her show's self-awareness, she's remarkably lacking in self-awareness herself.
forgethissmile 3rd-Feb-2013 03:11 pm (UTC)
"I have a policy against reading mixed reviews."

The fuck?

And while I admit that it feels like a no-win situation "You have no people of ethnicities!" "This is just a token black person!", it really feels like she went, "You want people of color? I'LL GIVE YOU PEOPLE OF COLOR. PERSON. ONE PERSON. So...shut up!"
hola_meg_a_cola 3rd-Feb-2013 04:18 pm (UTC)
Mfe. I feel like it would seem more genuine if she accepted the criticism and made real efforts to make a more inclusive show by hiring writers of color who can develop the characters they want and allow them to flourish.

However, from all the interviews I've read with her, most of the show's criticism is going over her head. She blows critics off and tags on the accusation of 'sexism.' While you can argue that criticism for the show seems more amplified because Lena is a woman, the point is that she's not really representing all 'Girls' and that doesn't seem to click with her.



*edited because it's late and made loads of errors.

Edited at 2013-02-03 04:21 pm (UTC)
carbons 3rd-Feb-2013 03:12 pm (UTC)
"I have to admit, I only skimmed it," Dunham just told me at the DGA Awards in Hollywood. "It seemed like a mixed review and I have a policy about not reading those."

and therein lies her problem. how are you ever going to evolve and learn and become a better person if you're unwilling to read legitimate criticism?
the_pinkdress 3rd-Feb-2013 03:15 pm (UTC)
to be fair, when this criticism started last year she did say several times that people were right and that she was going to try to work on changing that. as a showrunner she can't be constantly apologizing for things her show is doing 'wrong' because she also needs to get on with things and promote her show.

i'm not excusing the white-washing of 'girls'. but what is she supposed to do? spend all day reading blogs for their latest girls bashing?
carbons 3rd-Feb-2013 03:21 pm (UTC)
yes
treebraids 3rd-Feb-2013 03:17 pm (UTC)
Erm, kareem did not lash out. His review was handed and funny in parts.
the_pinkdress 3rd-Feb-2013 03:18 pm (UTC)
okay i was a very vocal critic of her white-washing last year... but it's starting to feel a bit weird, like ALL criticism of race issues on tv lands on 'girls' doorstep. why is there such rage on EVERY lena/girls post but not for posts of other actors/magazines/tv shows/movies/directors, etc. hypocritical and bandwagony IMO.
kristinkat 3rd-Feb-2013 03:31 pm (UTC)
IA
_quietriot_ 3rd-Feb-2013 03:37 pm (UTC)
That's true.
lilith20godrich 3rd-Feb-2013 03:37 pm (UTC)
Seriously, I don't get it at all.
ludmi_83 3rd-Feb-2013 03:43 pm (UTC)
IA. I get the critic on her "jokes" in twitter but I don't get the overly critics to the show. I'm a latina and I'm not preaching "omg why there is not a single hispanic in the show blablabla"
emptyobsidian 3rd-Feb-2013 04:42 pm (UTC)
I wonder if there are any male showrunners that get as much criticism or more? I admit I only skim a few news sites and ONTD, but I seriously ONLY see Lena screamed about and not the hundreds of men doing the same thing. Well, with some exceptions-there have been a few moments of criticism for certain producers/directions/showrunners before ultimately everyone went and saw the movie or watched the show anyway.
wowsolovely 3rd-Feb-2013 08:04 pm (UTC)
In general probably not. For the most part ontd gives a lot of show runners shit at least about doctor who and its sexism
crashh_world 3rd-Feb-2013 04:56 pm (UTC)
mte
wownow 3rd-Feb-2013 05:13 pm (UTC)
seriously
rockyspine 3rd-Feb-2013 05:28 pm (UTC)
This is true. I hate her and the show but the problems are across the board and its equally problematic that a young woman (who is the WOOOOORST) ignites hate that is reasonable for a looooot of other shows. She sucks and is an ignorant racist, but like...that's why she's successful right now...because the ENTIRE INDUSTRY is racist...
heart_of_butter 3rd-Feb-2013 06:57 pm (UTC)
This
deja_vu822 3rd-Feb-2013 07:39 pm (UTC)
ia. the response is always "other shows have been criticized for their race issues, maybe you just weren't paying attention" but there are so many shows with a lack of diversity that are posted about all the time and none of them ever garner even nearly the amount of hate that every single post about lena/Girls does, if they garner any hate at all.
melns 4th-Feb-2013 09:00 am (UTC)
yup, this is what I don't get. Lena is lynched for everything. at the same time Tina Fay was ridiculing Japanese on latest (last?) episode of her show but everybody adores her.
crazyjaney 3rd-Feb-2013 03:22 pm (UTC)
She might be my least favorite person ever other than Ray Lewis.
ludmi_83 3rd-Feb-2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
Lol I didn't know who the guy was lol he was a basketball player? hahaha

I don't like Lena as a comedian cos of her "jokes" and she is very daddy rich girl but I like the show and if I was her I would totally loled of that critic cos really it cames from a ex-basketball player is not valid
winegums 3rd-Feb-2013 03:41 pm (UTC)
it cames from a ex-basketball player is not valid

Whoops, I missed the memo that said there were professions that black people aren't allowed to belong to if they want to criticise her show.
ludmi_83 3rd-Feb-2013 03:52 pm (UTC)
Is not cos he is black is cos he was in sports. Is like in here a soccer player become a critic and start talking about shows.
Everyone has opinions and ofc are valid but not valid in a business way.
pineandapple 3rd-Feb-2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
And people say she's not playing herself in her show. Ok.
damourkrist 3rd-Feb-2013 04:05 pm (UTC)
I just cancel my subscription to Liberation magazine NEXT because they are going to have n article about how she is the second coming after god next week. I can't stand this woman, and the more she talks the more i hate her.

Thankfully for her, i don't hate her as much as i hate Tina Fey.
thelovehater 3rd-Feb-2013 04:10 pm (UTC)
Interesting, I don't think I've ever seen someone say they hate Tina Fey. Why don't you like her? Just wondering.
sincetomorrow 3rd-Feb-2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
not the original commenter but iirc tina fey's made a lot of slut-shamey comments in the past. maybe that's it.
damourkrist 3rd-Feb-2013 04:39 pm (UTC)
i have a real problem aout how she likes to make rape jokes about women who works in the sex industry, the fact that she likes to playthe "she is so better than other who just used they prettiness to get ahead", when she does the same damm thing, and don't even get me started on her passive agressive racism about Jennifer LOpez and Beyoncé
rezoom 4th-Feb-2013 12:30 am (UTC)
She's a corporate daddy's girl who does a very good job of pretending to be a feminist, which is only to give her sugar daddies more of that "hunting" feeling when they "catch" her. Her show promotes every sexist/racist trope there is, much like SNL. It is sad to see her so popular amongst the supposedly smart set. But watching her teetering in on her stilettos & tight mini's on Jimmy Fallon IS always such a hoot.
melns 4th-Feb-2013 09:04 am (UTC)
lol @ me just making a comment about how everyone hates Lena but adores Tina Fey and how that does not make sense. i guess not everybody adores Tina
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