ONTD

3:59 pm - 02/01/2013

Entertainment Weekly wants you to stop bitching about these 8 things

The world is imperfect. Especially Hollywood. But there are eight online gripes about the television landscape that have worn out their welcome. These all-too-common complaints have peppered EW comment boards for years and must be put to rest. Feel free to disagree, or add your own, but we say it’s time to stop complaining about online spoilers, Firefly’s cancellation, the Lost finale and these five other outdated grievances.


“There are TV spoilers online after a show airs!”

How many NFL fans watch a game the week after it airs? Uh, none. Because they know they cannot avoid hearing who won. Thanks to the growing pervasiveness of social media, it’s now the same for must-watch TV shows whether we like it or not. So if you’re really into programs like The Walking Dead, Survivor and Breaking Bad, and a spoiler would devastate your life, watch that season finale the night it airs, just like sports fans who make time for the big game. Don’t expect the rest of the Internet to wait for you to catch up (people in uniquely challenged situations — like viewers in Kyrgyzstan who must wait for U.S. shows — are exempt). Now as for those who post TV spoilers online before an episode airs, especially in headlines (like Salon did with last season’s Dexter finale) … yes, I agree, those people should be killed.




“TLC is supposed to be The Learning Channel!”

Whenever TLC presents a new trash-tastic reality offering to its dark, hungry underworld gods, some will complain how low “The Learning Channel” has sunk. Except the network hasn’t been branded The Learning Channel in about 10 years (the network began phasing out the name in 1998). Here’s the misunderstanding: The channel name wasn’t merely shortened, it was changed. It’s not like how NBC is still the National Broadcasting Company. Ask TLC and they’ll tell you the letters don’t stand for anything. The only exception is when the old name gets grandfathered into renewal contracts with affiliates, which sometimes results in The Learning Channel name popping up out there, adding to the confusion. Simply put: TLC officially stands as much for The Learning Channel today as it does for Toddlers Love Cash.



“Firefly was awesome and Fox cancelled it!”

Of all the axed shows in the history of TV, this decade-old title provokes the most outrage. Firefly was wonderful. And its cancellation was tragic because creatively it felt like the show was just getting started. But its ratings really were terrible, particularly for 2002. I did some digging and get this: During Firefly‘s season, The WB’s long-forgotten super-hero show Birds of Prey likewise only survived a few months before getting axed and its adult demo average was actually higher than Firefly’s (which averaged 4.4 million viewers and a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating). That would be like Fox launching a splashy new sci-fi show today that performs worse than The CW’s Ringer. I know, Fox should not have aired Firefly‘s second episode first, but it was hardly a killing move — you probably didn’t see the pilot first, either. As a pricy drama, Firefly would have a tough time surviving with these numbers even with today’s lower standards (which is really saying something in a year where Ben & Kate got a full season). If you still really want Firefly back, I’ll give you a first step toward making it happen: Convince everybody to stop watching Castle.



“I won’t pay HBO to watch Game of Thrones!”

Game of Thrones costs about $6 million per episode and HBO wants you to subscribe to their service to see it. What greed! What arrogance! Don’t they know that all content should be free in our 21st century utopia? … Okay, gripers have a point. Premium services like HBO, Showtime and Starz need to evolve their distribution and online access so fans can watch programs via different mediums right after their U.S. premieres. HBO, in particular, is a money truck and not eager to radically shake up their business model to make dragon lovers happy. But I’m referring to fans with attitudes like this: “HBO forces me to steal Game of Thrones via BitTorrent because otherwise I have to pay to watch the whole channel.” Even in this shiny digital age, not all content is a la carte. If you subscribe to Spotify, there’s millions of songs that you’re not listening to. And if you want to watch the upcoming season of Arrested Development, you still have to subscribe to Netflix. So you’re never going to actually watch Couples Retreat; it doesn’t mean HBO is robbing you. By the way, you really should avoid Couples Retreat.



“MTV and VH1 don’t play music videos anymore!”

Aww, and Hüsker Dü broke up and your acid jeans no longer fit. Times change. Brands evolve. YouTube happens. Developing original series is where the money is at, and that’s been the main focus of MTV and VH1 for more than a decade. Bonus: This super-common message board gripe isn’t even true. There’s still music video programming every weekday morning on both channels! Bet you didn’t know that. I didn’t either. Because nobody watches music videos on TV anymore. Granted, MTV did keep “Music Television” in its logo way longer than it should have (it was officially dropped only two years ago).



“Syfy’s name is stupid! (And where are the space shows?)”

Syfy’s name IS stupid. And I want space shows too. But The Sci-Fi Channel becoming Syfy and expanding its brand beyond nerd-friendly space operas didn’t hurt the network. Syfy ratings haven’t much changed since the 2009 switch and, let’s face it, we’ve gotten used to “Syfy” and don’t spend our free time hating it now. Still, we’re not letting a network that went from Battlestar Galactica to Marcel’s Quantum Kitchen off the hook. Syfy zigged (hey guys, let’s “Imagine Greater” with female friendly shows like Haven, Lost Girl and a bunch of reality shows), while rivals zagged right onto their turf by making hard-edged genre dramas like The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, Falling Skies and Spartacus — all of which set ratings records for their respective networks. Syfy could have grown their ratings by embracing truly gritty sci-fi/fantasy/horror instead of running screaming from its old brand like it was too cool to hang with the Comic-Con geeks. So, yeah, Syfy arguably messed up, but not because of its name switch.



“The Lost finale sucked!”

Wise readers commenting below suggested adding this entry to the list. I probably didn’t think of it before because, frankly, I need to get over this too. Lost fans didn’t need an answer to every question. But many wanted a clearer and more satisfying answer to the show’s central question: What is the island? (Expressed by Charlie at the end of the pilot as, “Guys, where are we?”). We expected a closer that lent more clarity to the whole series — a real headline-worthy ah-ha! revelation beyond solving the final season’s purgatory flashes. Instead we were left with the nagging sense that Lost was just a string of intriguing yet largely unrelated attention-getting hooks. Here’s why we need to get over it: Lost lacked an awesome climax but it was great in the sack for years. The ABC hit redefined serialized dramas, revived sci-fi on TV, and kept us entertained week after week (for free!). Also, at least the Lost team tried mightily to craft a conclusion that pleased fans. The Sopranos’ creative cop-out finale? Still totally worth griping about.



“This reality show means the apocalypse is upon us!”

Hasn’t surviving 2012 taught us anything? All the Kardashians and Honey Boo Boos and prophetic Mayans can’t bring about the end of the world. It’s just going to keep spinning no matter how many MREs and cases of bottled water we stockpile. Yet whenever a low-rent reality show is announced, there’s a round of oh-the-humanity hand-wringing. It’s like wealthy suburbanites in gated communities who diss their tacky new neighbors. Prime time has gone from a carefully manicured white-picket-fence cul-de-sac run by three white guys to a diverse metropolis with streets bursting with a variety of content. Some shows are amazing and plenty are dreadful, but since nobody can watch it all anyway there’s no point in being mad about shows you’ll never see. More than ever, TV reflects us. And looking in the mirror is always a little scary.


EW

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ppeak 1st-Feb-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
I so agree...and to be honest...TAKE NOTE.

People are bitching about these things week in and week out.

We have remotes for a reason.
avatarroku 1st-Feb-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Mte
hjohnson 1st-Feb-2013 09:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it blows my mind when I go into threads and people are like "this show SUCKS, its so stupid" then its like... don't watch it? We're not in the 50s with only 2 channels anymore, you are allowed to watch something else.
firetears_x 2nd-Feb-2013 04:59 am (UTC)
For real.
innocentanalyst 1st-Feb-2013 09:35 pm (UTC)
they should have added "This show is still on the air?" I think I've seen it in every OTH and GG post.
jaimelannister “I won’t pay HBO to watch Game of Thrones!” 1st-Feb-2013 09:04 pm (UTC)
BECAUSE IT IS A SUCKY ADAPTATION

THERE, I SAID IT.
isntdaveone Re: “I won’t pay HBO to watch Game of Thrones!” 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)

i've never even seen 1 episode of even like a clip or something of that show, LMFAO!!!!!
jaimelannister Re: “I won’t pay HBO to watch Game of Thrones!” 1st-Feb-2013 09:07 pm (UTC)
did you copy and paste this from my last Game of Thrones post?
saintssin Re: “I won’t pay HBO to watch Game of Thrones!” 1st-Feb-2013 09:43 pm (UTC)
What's so funny about that?
atomicdogmeat 1st-Feb-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
The only thing I find worse than complainers and people who complain about complainers.
kellerton 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
i was about to say this.
scarletfbl 1st-Feb-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
Yes, like people who MUST tell you their pet peeves. Like, dude, you're more annoying than the people actually acting out those pet peeves.
ppeak 1st-Feb-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
I agree...I wouldn't say anything...I would just starting banning.

It's not like MTV or TLC are going to listen to your ass anyway.

robotpotatoes 1st-Feb-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
but you're complaining about the complainers that complain about complainers.

VICIOUS CYCLE BRO.
sastra_fuss 1st-Feb-2013 09:17 pm (UTC)
complainception
goofusgallant 1st-Feb-2013 09:17 pm (UTC)
lol
iamashamed 1st-Feb-2013 11:47 pm (UTC)
lmao
holyfrijoles_2 1st-Feb-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Sometimes complainers about complaining become more vocal than the original complainers too.
noon 1st-Feb-2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
lol ia
deadendqueen16 1st-Feb-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
What about people who complain about people who complain about complainers? INFINITE LOOP OF ANNOYANCE
isntdaveone 1st-Feb-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
i still miss BSG

:(

arbiterin 1st-Feb-2013 09:13 pm (UTC)
Me too ;__;
klmnumbers 1st-Feb-2013 09:19 pm (UTC)
god me too. I think I might do a proper rewatch soon.. just so I can openly sob at the finale.
isntdaveone 1st-Feb-2013 09:21 pm (UTC)
they have the whole series (minus The Plan movie) on netflix instant and i watch a couple of episode a week.
mylondoncalling 1st-Feb-2013 09:34 pm (UTC)
It's an ache that never truly leaves me.
megedeborch 1st-Feb-2013 09:34 pm (UTC)
Ugh, that perfection of a show.
hysteric_23 1st-Feb-2013 09:35 pm (UTC)
I've been doing a rewatch on netflix

Edited at 2013-02-01 09:58 pm (UTC)
powerbottom 1st-Feb-2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
The episode of Portlandia that focuses on BSG makes me laugh.
prettywitch 1st-Feb-2013 10:15 pm (UTC)
All I can hear is EDI lol. I need To watch this show.
iamglory 1st-Feb-2013 11:04 pm (UTC)
I marathon this shit like three times a year. The ending was still not that great but not completely awful.
iamashamed 1st-Feb-2013 11:48 pm (UTC)
<3
poop_of_death 1st-Feb-2013 09:05 pm (UTC)
Okay OT yall what do I want to order for dinner?
mynamehere07 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
Pizza
isntdaveone 1st-Feb-2013 09:07 pm (UTC)
chicken stir-fry. like the kind they make at chineese places or panda express.
poop_of_death 1st-Feb-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
been told the panda express on campus sucks tho. Might go with indian
wheezy_wazlib 1st-Feb-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
Breakfast food
caitie_roxs13 1st-Feb-2013 09:08 pm (UTC)
Sub sandwich
mynamehere07 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
ITA about the spoiler thing. If you haven't watched something, stay away from posts, threads or tumblr.
fauxkaren 1st-Feb-2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I'm on the West Coast so tumblr sees things a couple hours ahead of me. So you know what I do? I TUMBLR SAVIOR THE SHIT OUT OF SOMETHING IF I DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED. It's not that hard.
faithgrowsold 1st-Feb-2013 09:12 pm (UTC)
Right? I just stay off tumblr for a few hours. It isn't actually hard.

(And by then everyone has a bazillion gifs already posted and allover my dash so I can reblog with feelings. It's perfect.)
mynamehere07 1st-Feb-2013 09:15 pm (UTC)
That has got to be tough, so I feel for you.

There is nothing worse than a week after something airs for someone to be like "Thanks for spoiling me asshole."
jaimelannister 1st-Feb-2013 09:15 pm (UTC)
I'm in the UK, so tumblr savio(U)r is the best thing ever for me.

But there is this one guy on my dash who forgets to tag all his stuff and sometimes I just want to reach through my screen and hit him. I don't want TWD's zombies on my dashboard.
mila_s_garden 1st-Feb-2013 11:37 pm (UTC)
I do the same, because even when I download stuff, I don't watch it immediately.
Tough I had to unfollow people who didn't use any tags at all, not even the shows initials.
luesietjuh 2nd-Feb-2013 02:12 am (UTC)
RIGHT? It drives me so crazy when my friends are all passive aggressive and like: "Now I remember why I don't go on tumblr before I've watched [whatever]."

IT'S MY PERSONAL BLOG, I'M GONNA POST WHAT I WANT. WHY COME ON TUMBLR AFTER SOMETHING AIRS AND EXPECT NOT TO SEE POSTS ABOUT IT? FUCKSSAKE.
nationalboner 1st-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
MTE. If you are so bothered by spoilers, it's your responsibility to keep yourself away from them.
ellaellaeheheh 1st-Feb-2013 09:16 pm (UTC)
ia. I'm not in the US. I stream shows sometimes, but I usually download everything. I just stay away from places I know will talk about what happens.
howlcosmiclove 1st-Feb-2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
mte, that's not hard to do.
maskedcunt 1st-Feb-2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
what sucks though is it's easy enough to skip posts about whatever you don't want spoiled, like that's reasonable, but then you go into a supposedly safe post about the queen's corgis getting neutered or w/e and you see "aw i love dogs... OT: I CAN'T BELIEVE SERENA STABBED BLAIR"

nowhere is safe
preciate_ya 1st-Feb-2013 09:30 pm (UTC)
Seriously. I can't watch Scandal live because I'm on my way back from class when it's on, so I avoid facebook for like 2 days until I have time to watch.
lovelyeli 1st-Feb-2013 09:53 pm (UTC)
lol yup

im on the west coast so i stay away from the internet for awhile on sundays.
hjohnson 1st-Feb-2013 09:54 pm (UTC)
Agreed.

The only thing I hate is when a show leaks before it airs on the east coast so its like 7pm and I get spoiled on tumblr for a show that hasn't aired ANYWHERE except for torrents on the internet.
the_pinkdress 1st-Feb-2013 09:55 pm (UTC)
And even if you do and somehow manage to see/hear a spoiler, you don't have to make it a big deal, just think 'Oh, that sucks', without the sense of entitlement.

I remember people getting pissy in the Downton fandom when, even though they knew there would be a Mary/Matthew wedding in 3x01, a picture of Mary in her dress leaked. 'I wanted to save the surprise of her dress for the episode, thanks a lot for ruining it'. Like, seriously? The show released the images to the public, and also this isn't a real life wedding where you're the groom who can't see the dress.
violue 1st-Feb-2013 09:57 pm (UTC)
I've learned the hard way that I need to not load tumblr and keep my twitter feed hidden until shit airs on my coast

but it pisses me off when people talk about spoilers for future episodes with no fucking warning
adam_pally 1st-Feb-2013 10:01 pm (UTC)
I get the staying off tumbler, staying out of related posts but spoilers turn up everywhere like FB, Twitter and forums, OT coms. Like last year someone in an OT Comm was watching RPDR on the east coat and and wars ike OMG Sharon Needles won. I'm like

xandy_candyx 1st-Feb-2013 10:10 pm (UTC)
+10000000

idk why is that such a hard thing to do. people actively go on pages such as forums where, you know...people discuss the newest episode, and then they bitch about spoilers?! i hate people!

yeah, i'm being a bit dramatic..:D
yurasama_love 1st-Feb-2013 11:13 pm (UTC)
Seriously! STAY AWAY FROM THE INTERNET.
I love spoilers, so I can't complain.
ankiem0e 1st-Feb-2013 11:43 pm (UTC)
OT, but hot damn. Real Men Nuzzle Lamb Noses.
kindafunnysad 2nd-Feb-2013 12:23 am (UTC)
idk some ass posted a gif of homeland's finale in a completely unreleated thread like an hour after it aired, i was fucking pissed
wristtattoos 2nd-Feb-2013 12:46 am (UTC)
i used to hate when i would live tweet during an awards show because my cali/west coast friends complain about it....i get their point, but i don't really care either. should i save my tweets for 3 hours in the future?
wunderaliceland 2nd-Feb-2013 04:22 pm (UTC)
Exactly. I have to avoid certain tweets on Tuesday mornings because I dont have MTV so I cant watch Catfish. I have two friends who tweet extensively about the show and its not a HUGE deal if I know what the twist is but it sort of sucks. But on the other hand, I do think its really rude to tweet spoilers using @replies which I see a lot of people I follow complain about.
anchors_oceans 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
i adore firefly but it's over. if it was brought it back now, they wouldn't be able to capture how the show was. it would be a disappointment.
metalheavy 3rd-Feb-2013 03:30 pm (UTC)
Exactly. Plus people never seem to grasp that if it has stayed on the air, it wouldn't have been amazing forever. It would've been tainted eventually, nothing is perfect.
scarletfbl 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
Diff genre, but my friend tried to get pissed at me for revealing the ending of the last Harry Potter book. Last year.
faithgrowsold 1st-Feb-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
Man, how they avoided it until then is impressive.
oktobergoud 1st-Feb-2013 09:20 pm (UTC)
LOL a friend was pissed at me when I told something about the ending of the Hobbit. That book is out for like wat, 76 years or so?? If you're that interested, just read it already -___-
laceandskin 1st-Feb-2013 09:21 pm (UTC)
Someone got mad at me here for posting that Dumbledore is dead.
saintssin 1st-Feb-2013 09:47 pm (UTC)
wtf

spoiler tag that shit

i mean he was an old man but still
gonerilandregan 1st-Feb-2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
My friend yelled at me for "spoiling" the ending of Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret because she never got to read it as a teen. (I was drunkenly making fun of the book at a party.) I think it was pretty fucking obvious that Margaret was going to get her period, but okay.
jaimelannister 1st-Feb-2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
Someone on my tumblr has been tagging Les Mis for spoilers

REALLY. REALLY??
milkradio 1st-Feb-2013 09:24 pm (UTC)
How the fuck did they manage to stay spoiler-free? Even the whole "Snape kills Dumbledore" thing is unavoidable now because of memetic mutation.
hollis1975 1st-Feb-2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
last year? wtf were they when it was released like almost 6 yrs ago and the last MOVIE?
victory_goddess 1st-Feb-2013 10:23 pm (UTC)
My ex got pissed off because I spoiled ... wait for it ...

Bambi's mother dying.

I shit you not, 37 yrs on this Earth and he didn't know about that.
yurasama_love 1st-Feb-2013 11:15 pm (UTC)
Haha, like 3 years ago this guy was talking with me and a friend about how you can't tell how J.K. Rowling was gonna end Harry Potter and we were both like, "Da fuq... it came out like two years ago. It was a huge deal."
arabian 2nd-Feb-2013 12:11 am (UTC)
I still remember reading about people getting pissed when the ending of Titanic was "spoiled." Dude, true story. It's a true story. That happened in 1912!
luesietjuh 2nd-Feb-2013 02:14 am (UTC)
My friend got mad at me when I mentioned that Sirius dies. This was 2008. THE BOOK CAME OUT IN 2003.
sweet_children9 2nd-Feb-2013 06:53 pm (UTC)
My cousin is mad at me cause I was talking about the hobbit and mentioned the dwarfs that die
fabouluz 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
I loved the Lost finale.
adigallia 1st-Feb-2013 09:22 pm (UTC)
Same. It wasn't perfect, sure, but it was so emotional and satisfying. I loved it.
megedeborch 1st-Feb-2013 09:37 pm (UTC)
OMG ICON.

Only pairing that really mattered on that show besides Desmond/Penny. <3
daddyissues 2nd-Feb-2013 01:50 am (UTC)
ia i bawled like a baby - only a quarter of my tears were for the unanswered qs lol
satellite__eyes 1st-Feb-2013 09:37 pm (UTC)
Me too - I fucking bawled my eyes out. I thought it was beautiful.
dmclaire 1st-Feb-2013 09:40 pm (UTC)
me too
emmakey 1st-Feb-2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
Me too. Not perfect, but I got enough closure and it was so emotional for me. I think a lot people who were pissed didn't like lots about the mythology of the show and there was no pleasing them by the end of it.
artemis_archer 2nd-Feb-2013 12:50 am (UTC)
I did too. I never expected they'd actually answer everything but I was satisfied by how it ended.
wasabi_girl1 2nd-Feb-2013 01:03 am (UTC)
My favourite series finale ever tbh
actionhero 2nd-Feb-2013 01:37 am (UTC)
Honestly? Okay so give me the truth here. I've considered getting into Lost because it's on Netflix Instant, but hearing people bitch about the finale kept me away because I didn't want to invest all that time in a show only to get to the finale and be like AND THEN JOHNNY WOKE UP AND IT WAS ALL A DREAM WHEN HE CONKED HIS HEAD ON THE KITCHEN TABLE WHEN HE WAS 3 LOL BYE.

Advise me, ONTD.
metalheavy 3rd-Feb-2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
Me too. More answers would've been nice, but at it's core the show was about the characters and not the island. I'm glad they took care of the characters.
tiny_balrog 5th-Feb-2013 07:24 pm (UTC)
I cried like a family member died because I was so sad it was over but yeah...... that finale really sucked.
tobesurrounded 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
do people really still complain about the LOST finale? i mean, the show sucked from season 4-6 so why were people surprised?
bicbic 2nd-Feb-2013 01:29 am (UTC)
lol! so true!
tiny_balrog 5th-Feb-2013 07:43 pm (UTC)
lol exactly. the last season alone was just completely awful.
fauxkaren 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
YOU'RE NOT MY MOM, ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY!

I'LL COMPLAIN ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!
jaimelannister 1st-Feb-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
IKR.

I can complain about the Lost finale if I want to.

shadwrayvn 1st-Feb-2013 11:21 pm (UTC)
EXACTLY

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clairelittleton 2nd-Feb-2013 06:40 am (UTC)
loooove to this gif.
superdogbiter 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
x-files needs another season
no it doesn't it's fine
adigallia 1st-Feb-2013 09:23 pm (UTC)
I wish we could do a minus one season on that show. Maybe even two.
anchellada 1st-Feb-2013 09:45 pm (UTC)
agree 10000%
mementox 1st-Feb-2013 09:58 pm (UTC)
Seasons 8 and 9 never happened in my mind. Except Existence but only bc of the kiss
jordoofus 1st-Feb-2013 11:06 pm (UTC)
YUP YUP YUP
endingonfire 2nd-Feb-2013 01:51 am (UTC)
yes
alexandra86 2nd-Feb-2013 02:29 am (UTC)
yes!
goofusgallant 1st-Feb-2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
idk anyone who complains about paying for GoT. Most people just watch it online or they have HBO.
nabuch 1st-Feb-2013 09:09 pm (UTC)
They should have written about fans of book complaining how the adaptations differ than the canon, me thinks.
goofusgallant 1st-Feb-2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
That's what I was expecting when I started reading the article.
wheezy_wazlib 1st-Feb-2013 09:11 pm (UTC)
I'm guilty of complaining about that, whether it's GoT, Harry Potter, etc. It's hard for me to separate a book from the film/show.
fauxkaren 1st-Feb-2013 09:28 pm (UTC)
lol Probably

IDEC THOUGH. I will never stop complaining about how HBO royally fucked up Catelyn as a character.
ppeak 1st-Feb-2013 09:12 pm (UTC)
I have heard a lot of people complain about it...I agree, they should put it on iTunes and Netflix, but let it die. We are three seasons in.

If you want to watch it that bad, just get HBO, it's not leasing a fucking car.
bet_on_me 2nd-Feb-2013 12:26 am (UTC)
I don't subscribe to HBO. I just wait, deal with the spoilers (which aren't spoilers since I am reading the books) and buy the DVDs from Amazon. Where I am, you have to get HBO within another pack of channels, so it definitely saves money.
miss_almost 2nd-Feb-2013 10:38 pm (UTC)
same. idk anyone who bitches about paying for HBO. like they either have cable already and are fine adding a few extra $ a month for HBO...or they dont have tv at all and watch everything online for free.
testdrivegirl 1st-Feb-2013 09:07 pm (UTC)
meh
bodyline 1st-Feb-2013 09:07 pm (UTC)
i tune out whenever people start complaining about these things, especially Firefly

i'm more concerned about the fact that Cartoon Network barely has any fucking cartoons anymore, jfc
holyfrijoles_2 1st-Feb-2013 09:12 pm (UTC)
I'm so fucking over Firefly tbh.
poop_of_death 1st-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
read in Sam Jackson's voice LOL
faithgrowsold 1st-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
I hate people complaining about Firefly, because I'm still bitter it took Dark Angel's place when they canceled it ):
amsterdam__ 1st-Feb-2013 10:01 pm (UTC)
I'm not in the US so pardon my question but what kind of programming does Cartoon Network have?
troy_macclure 1st-Feb-2013 10:20 pm (UTC)
I thought that CN real shit was axed?
manaconda 1st-Feb-2013 10:53 pm (UTC)
ia. my inner child is distraught.

and the fact that all of their 'cn real' programming is terrible is just rubbing salt on the wound tbh. even my baby sister won't have anything to do with it.
aprilbegins 2nd-Feb-2013 02:31 am (UTC)
Firefly grieving bothers me because they ended up getting a theatrical release, which is almost unheard of considering the early cancellation. (And I say this as someone who saw Serenity three times in the theater, so it's not like I'm not a fan myself.) And...well I won't go into how I feel about Nathan Fillion, because it's constantly wavering but I'm often annoyed. But I'm a huge Castle fan so there are pictures with him, oh, four feet away from me right now

Edited at 2013-02-02 02:34 am (UTC)
mirasango 2nd-Feb-2013 03:04 am (UTC)
I miss Space Ghost Coast to Coast. I know I am the only one who probably remembers that show

And Dexter but tbh I haven't watched the channel in a very long time. My dvr records the Clone Wars but I never watch them I have so many eps saved oh well.
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