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Ronaiah Tuiasosopo - I'm a Recovering Homosexual

The man behind the Manti Te'o girlfriend hoax -- a deeply religious Christian -- told Dr. Phil he believes he suffers from homosexuality ... and desperately needs to "recover" from it.

During his interview, Dr. Phil asked Ronaiah Tuiasosopo straight ... "Are you gay?"Ronaiah replied, "If you look at this situation and everything that I've been through, I would say yeah I'm gay. But honestly I'm so confused."

Ronaiah -- who admitted he had deeply romantic feelings for Manti -- added, "It takes a lot of courage to recover from homosexuality and this type of thing and coming back to your real life. As hard of a task it is, I'm going to do all I can to live right."

Dr. Phil was blown away by Ronaiah's response, saying, "This is for another time, but I have so much to say to you about what you just said, because a lot of it bothers me so much." He added, "But we will talk about that another time."
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squishinator 1st-Feb-2013 01:26 am (UTC)
just love who u love ok

lucciolaa 1st-Feb-2013 01:32 am (UTC)
ikr what's so wrong with that?
handsdowntoo 1st-Feb-2013 01:27 am (UTC)
This confirms for me even more than he and Manti had something going on but both are super, super in the closet with issues about being gay.
vanishingbee 1st-Feb-2013 01:28 am (UTC)
I wonder about whether or not there's ever an element of misunderstood bisexuality with stuff like this.
sunredskyblue 1st-Feb-2013 01:40 am (UTC)
ia
kurtvonnegut 1st-Feb-2013 01:41 am (UTC)
ia

it seems you meet a lot of people who have had relationships with the other gender but still adamantly declare they're straight
x_butterfly19_x 1st-Feb-2013 03:25 am (UTC)
Totally.

:(
gabrieldreams 1st-Feb-2013 01:28 am (UTC)
I don't know what to think about the rest of this story, I haven't really been keeping up with it.

But I do know that this is a terrible thing to think about yourself and I hope he gets the help he needs, and by help I mean the therapy road to acceptance type, not the Jesus will smite you type.
deadendqueen16 1st-Feb-2013 01:29 am (UTC)
The more he talks, the more I'm convinced he's just covering for his man.
valiumaphrodite 1st-Feb-2013 01:42 am (UTC)
Absolutely.
syzygy09 1st-Feb-2013 02:40 am (UTC)
Ye$
seraficradiance 1st-Feb-2013 01:17 pm (UTC)
covering how? I mean, I just don't see how all we learned in the fallout of this mess equates with them just being boyfriends who got outed.
Why would the other dude bother bringing up a girlfriend who never existed in interviews? Why say she died - which would make people want to see her more if there was nothing to find?
lucciolaa 1st-Feb-2013 01:30 am (UTC)
lol I'm too drunk to be mad

this is fucking hilarious
warriorholmes 1st-Feb-2013 01:30 am (UTC)
Who outed the fake girlfriend?

I'm trying to believe that maybe they did have something going on but like... Idk I am just confused as fuck rn lol. Whatevs.
valiumaphrodite 1st-Feb-2013 01:43 am (UTC)
Deadspin broke the news. They got anon tips to look into this "girlfriend" and when they started digging, they discovered that nothing was adding up.
warriorholmes 1st-Feb-2013 01:47 am (UTC)
Ahhhh. I think he really was fooled into thinking that his gf died then lol. If they were gay then idk why they couldn't just "breakup" then let it fade away.

This shit is confusing.
squishinator 1st-Feb-2013 01:44 am (UTC)
i think tmz or some news venue figured it out when shit wasnt adding up.
truexillusions 1st-Feb-2013 01:32 am (UTC)
This was the most disturbing part of the interview tbh. I was like WHAAAAAAAT
raised_eyebrows Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 01:33 am (UTC)
Let me see if I can recall all the events off the top of my head:

1. Te'o's grandma dies and his "girlfriend" dies shortly after. He gets lots of sympathy from fans and the industry.

2. Deadspin does some research into Lennay Kekua, and finds out she's fake. There are no legal documents indicating that Lennay Kekua ever existed. No birth certificate, no death certificate, etc. and she has no internet footprint prior to her association with Te'o. Te'o had previously claimed that he met her irl.

3. Three (of many) theories:
-He was duped. He was a naive kid who met a cute girl online and didn't consider that somebody might have been messing with him. He tried to meet her irl, but there was always some excuse. He was too embarrassed to admit that he had an internet girlfriend, so he told the media and his parents that he had seen her in the flesh.
He was fooled by his friend Ronaiah. A few twitter sleuths found some former friends of Ronaiah's who claimed that they stopped talking to him once they found out he was fucking with Manti. Ronaiah got the photo from a former classmate of his, telling her that a sick relative or friend thought she was beautiful and wanted to see her picture. He set up a twitter account using the girl's picture and pretended to be Te'o's gf. Why did he do this? Attention maybe. He was a high school football star whose career never took off and his music wasn't really doing so well either.

-Or, Ronaiah and Te'o were working together. They created a sob story to get some symapthy and to drum up some media attention for Te'o.

-Or, they're both gay or bi and chose the most convoluted way imaginable to cover it up. It would have looked strange that Manti didn't have a girlfriend, so they created one.

omg, this is the length of a novel

Edited at 2013-02-01 01:34 am (UTC)
kurtvonnegut Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 01:42 am (UTC)
i always believed #1 but now that i've heard this story i'm starting to believe #3.....
raised_eyebrows Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 01:44 am (UTC)
Yeah, the twitter thing had me convinced that Theory #1 was what was really going on, but I think it's a combo of 2 & 3 now.
valiumaphrodite Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 01:47 am (UTC)
At first I thought it was to drum up sympathy so he could win the Heisman trophy

But since he comes from a very religious background AND he plays football, I wouldn't be surprised if he were covering up his sexuality.
spiderkelly Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 05:01 am (UTC)
i think it could be a combo of 1/3. and the reason ronaiah kept inventing lennay and creating relationships with guys was b/c he was deep closet gay and it was the only way he knew how to express it. te'o wasn't the first time he'd done this...

idt 2 works b/c lennay was created years before te'o was even nationally famous. they couldn't have known notre dame would go undefeated 2 years in the future.
nattiecakes Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 11:06 am (UTC)
From the day the story was released, I thought it was obvious that it was #3, the first option. I think Ronaiah is gay or bisexual, and obviously confused, and created Lennay to have relationships with men; Lennay "existed" before Ronaiah knew Te'o, so I don't get why people think Te'o wasn't duped like people before him had been. I also thought it was obvious that the reason Ronaiah asked that Facebook friend for a picture he could use was because Te'o was getting suspicious of being dodged when he'd ask to video chat or meet Lennay IRL.

But when I said this on the original post everyone was like LOL WHATEVER HE MADE UP A GIRLFRIEND YOU MUST BE A FOOTBALL FAN! (I don't even know the rules of football) even when that scenario doesn't make sense. Why would Ronaiah bother asking this Facebook woman for a pic of her holding a sign if Te'o hadn't needed convincing? They didn't appear to have used that picture to convince the general public of anything; they already had all the other pictures he'd stolen from the FB friend to make the girlfriend seem real.

It doesn't make sense for Te'o to have pretended to have a girlfriend anyway. Why have her die too when his grandmother just died? If he wanted sympathy he'd already have gotten sympathy for his grandmother. Ronaiah had to kill Lennay off because Te'o was too suspicious or Ronaiah was having religious-based gay-shame about the whole thing, plus he already had Te'o as a friend at that point (it appears he used Lennay to "introduce" him to Te'o). He also might have created that leukemia story just because people who do that kind of fake-identity shit are addicted to drama, but then he might have realized too late that Te'o might try to find records of her being there, or call the hospital or something, and he wanted to end it. He probably said she died the same day Te'o's grandmother died because he wanted Te'o distracted and unable to visit Lennay.

I mean, I honestly wouldn't care if Te'o was gay and he and Ronaiah were both covering up a gay relationship. But I think it's more likely that Te'o was just duped like Ronaiah had duped people before, and he was too embarrassed to admit he hadn't actually met his own girlfriend. When I was a teenager I had online boyfriends and it was embarrassing to admit it; people had to pry the "online" part out of me.

But for whatever reason, people want to think that Te'o made it all up for publicity -- when he apparently already had publicity, and could have gotten a real girlfriend, and whatever else. I blame the original Deadspin article for putting forth that theory with no basis whatsoever, because people read it and then thought that, even though it made zero sense compared to the theory that Ronaiah just duped Te'o.

Oh well, whatever. I feel sort of bad for Te'o if Ronaiah really just duped him, because it's already embarrassing enough without everyone thinking he seriously made up a girlfriend for publicity too.
nattiecakes Re: Sketchy timeline1st-Feb-2013 11:11 am (UTC)
Oh, I should add that I think if anything, Ronaiah killed off Lennay because he was ashamed of being gay and told himself he had to end it. That makes the most sense for why later, after he'd killed her off, he got back in contact with Te'o posing as Lennay saying Lennay wasn't dead; his gay urges boiled over again and overwhelmed the shame, and it probably was tormenting him to be in contact with Te'o as a friend but not in the romantic way he had been before. Like, imagine if you're Ronaiah, and you're still friends with Te'o. Maybe Te'o was talking about other girls, or Ronaiah just imagined Te'o would eventually hook up with a girl, and it was driving him nuts.

I'm really curious to know for sure whether Ronaiah was faking the voice or if it was an actual girl (that would be really weird) or maybe after the fact, Te'o's people just made up some voicemails so Te'o didn't look like even more of an idiot for believing Lennay was real. But honestly, it would be... surprising to say the least if Te'o kept on a fake relationship with Lennay without even phone calls. "I don't have a webcam" can get you pretty far with someone who wants to believe you're real, I'm sure, but everyone has a phone. So I hesitantly believe that Te'o really did talk to someone he thought was Lennay, but who knows.
queenbathory 1st-Feb-2013 01:34 am (UTC)
How did this whole thing get so big? and does this mean he and Manti were lovers?
syzygy09 1st-Feb-2013 01:40 am (UTC)
It got big because Te'o was up for a very important award, someone did some research, and it snowballed into the clusterfuck that it is now.

The story is bizarre.
tebtosca 1st-Feb-2013 01:34 am (UTC)
My take: him and Manti were gay on the DL, and when shit hit the fan, this dude decided to jump under the bus. The audio of the call with the girl was a fake to cover it all up

/conspiracy
handsdowntoo 1st-Feb-2013 01:42 am (UTC)
My thoughts too. Seems like its worked. Most mainstream media thinks Manti was duped. His NFL stock won't suffer as much as it might if he intentionally lied to the press for his own gain.
hobnailedboots 1st-Feb-2013 01:50 am (UTC)
mte
shadyoutkast 1st-Feb-2013 01:57 am (UTC)
i believe that too.
syzygy09 1st-Feb-2013 01:36 am (UTC)
Legit question...does Dr. Phil pay his guests? And it's not even necessarily about this, but I'm curious.

That man is such a hack.
saltireflower 1st-Feb-2013 01:42 am (UTC)
I remember rumors that he paid Dinah Lohan for her interview.
syzygy09 1st-Feb-2013 01:46 am (UTC)
I assume she was, cause, y'know she's a Lohan.

It upsets me so much that Oprah is responsible for Dr. Phil being a thing.
distinguetraces 1st-Feb-2013 01:36 am (UTC)
Oh man, poor kid.
yah_bish_yah 1st-Feb-2013 01:38 am (UTC)
Good luck with that...
saltireflower 1st-Feb-2013 01:38 am (UTC)
The poor guy has been taught a lot of bs.
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