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3:18 pm - 01/07/2013

More Details on Donald Glover's Role In Girls.



Well... some of you asked for it, so you're getting it.

You'll recall last year's hoopla over the lack of diversity in Lena Dunham's hit HBO series, Girls (although, it's questionable whether it all was genuine, or fabricated to generate conversation and press around the series); soon after, it was revealed that Donald Glover would be joining the series' cast this season, I suppose in response to calls for more *color* on the show.

At the time, it wasn't know what role exactly Glover would play; but now we do know.

Tim Goodman's review of the new season of the series (which debuts on January 13) in The Hollywood Reporter last Friday gives us some of the 411:

Season two starts with a pretty big -- and unexplained -- jump. Hannah is now dating a handsome black Republican named Sandy (Donald Glover)... When Sandy calls out Hannah’s knowledge of race and its ramifications, she goes on a self-righteous, defensive rant, and Sandy says, “You just said a Missy Elliott lyric.” There are attacks on fixie bikes, rich white girls dating black men, iPad-using gay DJs, what constitutes a “pretty person’s job,” and the smug cynicism of youthful people who haven’t earned the right to it.


Intrigued?

I did watch a couple of episodes of Girls, and, to be frank, they did very little to nothing for me, and I never went back to it. I'm just not its target audience. Besides, I have so much else to keep up with. I hear it's a good show, well-written etc. But little about it attracts me.

Will Glover;s addition make a difference to me? Probably not. But we'll see... I'm sure I'll be cajoled into giving it a look - especially the episodes he's in.

Dunham said that the 'race" problem in Girls would be addressed in the next season, and the characters will be more diverse. Great! However, I'm not a fan of classic network tokenism in casting; in essence, don't give us characters of color just to meet a quota, or as a knee-jerk reaction to the criticism. And then when she does include black characters who aren't written as we'd like them to be, we'll only just criticize further!

And given that Glover's character is a black Republican, it's anyone's guess what slant/angle the writing will take with Mr Sandy.

For a show that, from what I hear, is not at all what you'd call political - at least the characters and the world they inhabit are apolitical - how will inserting a character designated as a black Republican mix into the narrative?

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vanishingbee 7th-Jan-2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
lol it's literally like they looked for the way to make the most possible number of people mad with this

ngl I love it

Hannah's rants have always struck me as much more aware and meta-based rather than some weird soapbox for Lena Dunham's "real views" or w/e.
ponpiri 7th-Jan-2013 03:40 pm (UTC)
It sounds like a big 'fuck you' to me.
vanishingbee 7th-Jan-2013 03:42 pm (UTC)
The reason I'm kind of into it is because it DOES sound like a big fuck you, but we don't actually know how it plays out. I would hope it's handled relatively well, so that the 'fuck you' elements are purely from the concept, rather than from the execution.
sarahvma 7th-Jan-2013 05:06 pm (UTC)
Her rant about her weight made me want to slit my wrists, though. No one who's actually struggled with their weight is that self-aware, meta and twee about it. Self-depreciating, maybe.
nicholasdee 7th-Jan-2013 05:27 pm (UTC)
I love it because the critics have made it pretty clear that there is nothing she can do to redeem herself to them at this point, so why not
sun_set_blvd 7th-Jan-2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
When Sandy calls out Hannah’s knowledge of race and its ramifications, she goes on a self-righteous, defensive rant

How meta. I think that addressing the problems of her representation of ethnicity like this is really contrived and annoying.
niimaa 8th-Jan-2013 12:19 am (UTC)
yup. this is the most hyped nothing show in years. theyre just running on "any press is good press".
mynamehere07 7th-Jan-2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
So Sandy is the physical manifestation of the people criticizing her?
warsawed 7th-Jan-2013 03:30 pm (UTC)
wouldn't it be qt if he could just be his own person
mynamehere07 7th-Jan-2013 03:35 pm (UTC)
Hopefully he's a fleshed out character and not just a plot point.

From the description, which granted is just a description, I get a "very special episode" tertiary character vibe.
ediesedgwick 7th-Jan-2013 04:13 pm (UTC)
that's impossible. She can't write black people anything that isn't directly or indirectly about herself
treebraids 7th-Jan-2013 03:56 pm (UTC)
MTE
winniechili 7th-Jan-2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
I don't trust her to write anything about a black Republican.
pieisgood08 7th-Jan-2013 04:32 pm (UTC)
I don't trust her to write anything.
xgirldc 7th-Jan-2013 06:02 pm (UTC)
its interesting you say that, because initially when this was brought up, that is basically what she said about it herself.
hangthemj 7th-Jan-2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
~sounds progressive~ rme
mellarks 7th-Jan-2013 03:26 pm (UTC)
How very Glee of them.
metyouwho 7th-Jan-2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
mte
warsawed 7th-Jan-2013 03:31 pm (UTC)
fionaapple 7th-Jan-2013 03:38 pm (UTC)
lol
foreverxromance 7th-Jan-2013 03:33 pm (UTC)
i finally watched this show yesterday and i couldn't get into it. idg the hype
ponpiri 7th-Jan-2013 03:34 pm (UTC)
Sounds like it'll be a mess. I wonder how the conversation went in the writing room about their token black character.
And rolling my eyes at what the writer feels about the "hoopla" about the lack of diversity in Girls.

although, it's questionable whether it all was genuine, or fabricated to generate conversation and press around the series



Edited at 2013-01-07 03:35 pm (UTC)
pastelstar 7th-Jan-2013 03:38 pm (UTC)
Watching Lena makes me want to go work out and eat better. idk
ediesedgwick 7th-Jan-2013 04:14 pm (UTC)
mte

it's not even her weight, it's her general mousiness and awful skin that makes me want to eat every antioxidant in sight
aprilfunk 7th-Jan-2013 06:45 pm (UTC)
LOL
lovekrista 8th-Jan-2013 03:43 am (UTC)
lmfao this is me
winniechili 7th-Jan-2013 04:18 pm (UTC)
Me too. But then I don't.
bienenkiste 7th-Jan-2013 04:38 pm (UTC)
lol
missjersey 7th-Jan-2013 04:49 pm (UTC)
This is killing me lol.
cluelessraf 7th-Jan-2013 05:25 pm (UTC)
LMAO!
courtkneee1 7th-Jan-2013 06:23 pm (UTC)
lol literally me too
wirepatch 7th-Jan-2013 08:30 pm (UTC)
lmao seriously
tragickingdomxo 7th-Jan-2013 03:39 pm (UTC)
Wow Lena you're so clever
pinkprincessnat 7th-Jan-2013 03:40 pm (UTC)
Sounds incredibly awful :/, not looking forward to this.
kwikimart 7th-Jan-2013 03:44 pm (UTC)
Idec anymore, I just don't understand why anyone watches this self-indulgent trash
poopanna 7th-Jan-2013 04:19 pm (UTC)
Why do people watch honey boo boo, the shitty real world or some other bologna? Sometimes you just have to watch some shit to calm down.

I'm mad almost every day because I watch and read the news before work. Shit around Philadelphia is nothing but people shooting people, cops shooting people and people shooting cops. And that's just my region, it's awesome to read about all the gang rapes that are going on around the world.



I've seen 2 episodes of this show and I was entertained.

beatlesluv 7th-Jan-2013 04:54 pm (UTC)
Honey boo boo may be a bit rough around the edges and not a ~pretty looking~ family but I watch them b/c they make me laugh and they clearly love and appreciate each other. I can't watch something that's so empty there isn't anything for me to keep coming back to. So I don't think Honey boo boo is in the league of this....whatever it is.

fancypiink 7th-Jan-2013 07:44 pm (UTC)
keep the honey boo boo clan out of here! they're perfect and in no way similar to this troll and her stupid tv show.

Edited at 2013-01-07 07:45 pm (UTC)
luckynumber5 7th-Jan-2013 11:33 pm (UTC)
I avoid NW Philly like the plague.

I share your sentiment on this show. It's nothing award-worthy but it's still entertaining.
fuskeez 7th-Jan-2013 05:32 pm (UTC)
I put off watching it for a long time, up until a couple of weeks ago. I watched all 10 episodes one night. After it was over, I liked ONE (and a half) characters, disliked all the rest, and am now questioning why I bothered in the first place.

There are *moments* that I liked, but that's not enough for me to recommend it to anyone.
alexislex 7th-Jan-2013 03:53 pm (UTC)
Black republicans don't make sense to me.
x_neverenough 8th-Jan-2013 01:30 am (UTC)
same. or woman that are republicans. basically anyone who isn't a rich, straight, white man doesn't make sense to me tbh.
oh7 8th-Jan-2013 11:39 pm (UTC)
lol
neonxstardust 7th-Jan-2013 03:53 pm (UTC)
Ugh.
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