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12:16 pm - 12/19/2012

Elementary: Female Watson 'Started as a Joke'


Rob Doherty's choice to pair Jonny Lee Miller's Sherlock Holmes with a woman resulted in fall's No. 1 new series, and inclusion in THR's 2012 Rule Breakers portfolio.

"It started out as something of a joke," creator Rob Doherty confesses of his decision to make the Watson in his Sherlock Holmes tale a woman. When he began to research the story's original characters, he came across a handful of experts who had written up psychological assessments of Sherlock; one of them had noted an aversion to women.

"I thought to myself, 'What would make Holmes crazier than taking the figurative rock he has in Watson and making him a woman?' I scribbled it down and then went back to my research," the 38-year-old Elementary showrunner continues. "The more I thought about it, the more I wanted to try it."

The result: casting Asian-American film star Lucy Liu as the first female Watson opposite Jonny Lee Miller's Sherlock and an impressive 13.9 million viewers tuning in weekly, making Elementary the No. 1 new series with total viewers this fall. (Among the key 18-to-49 set, the series ranks No. 2 behind only NBC's breakout Revolution.) And come February, the CBS drama -- one of the season's few hits with critics and audiences alike -- will get the coveted post-Super Bowl slot.
The show's stars, Liu, 44, and Miller, 40, still are making sense of the series' success, particularly rewarding because the show colors outside the lines in a way that excites both of them.

"To me, one of the best things you can do in this profession is to take a risk," says Miller, whose co-star plays sober coach to his recovering-addict Sherlock. Liu says the tweak in formula can liberate the story in other ways as well: "There's an endless supply of unpredictability that we can delve into and we can change and add. It will still be a pound cake, but it could be marble, it could be lemon, it could be poppy seed."


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sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
I'm probably going to get shit for this.

But being gay or being a woman doesn't render you sexism or homophobia free.
executivehpfan 19th-Dec-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
Yep yep yep. Rupert Everett and that chick who finds husbands for rich white women whose name I cannot remember for the life of me are the first examples who leap to mind.
sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:21 pm (UTC)
Stephen Fry.
sarahvma 19th-Dec-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
Is he really? That's unfortunate.
sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:47 pm (UTC)
Offensive article -- http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/52686947.html

And his Cumberbatching ("I was misquoted") --
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/52907110.html

So I'm not sure -- but he is getting a side-eye from me.
sarahvma 19th-Dec-2012 07:05 pm (UTC)
Ugh. The literal worst.
sarahvma 19th-Dec-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
It doesn't -- and I thought that that was a mistake as soon as I said it.

And honestly, Moffat might be pulling the whole, "Oh, but I can't be, because look at Mark and Sue."

Nor does it mean that Mark and Sue can't be homophobic or sexist, respectively.

But in a simple way, I guess my point was just that Moffat doesn't have the excuse, as so many writers and showrunners do, that their whole writing staff/team is just a bunch of broskis.
sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:20 pm (UTC)
lol. It's the - "I'm not racist, look at my black friend" argument. Moffat refuses to listen to people who try to tell him otherwise. What he said about bisexuality made me want to break something.


What kills me. What honestly kills me all the time -- is the number of conversations I've had with his fans who refuse to find anything wrong with him. Who think Irene, River Song, Amy Pond -- are fantastic female characters.

Kills me. And like, you've seen me around enough to know how crazy opinionated I am about this stuff.

fauxkaren 19th-Dec-2012 06:34 pm (UTC)
Moffat stans do some incredibly logical gymnastics in order to support their preconception that Amy and River and Irene are brilliant and wonderful characters.
sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
The biggest problem I encounter is usually the fact that people don't understand, when I'm talking about Amy/River/Irene/Molly/etc -- I'm talking about the characters as representations of women written by this asshole. Like I've literally faced arguments that are so ridiculous I can't begin to fathom what is happening in the fan's brains. Like they argue like they're real people.

"If Irene didn't LIKE that Sherlock SAVED her she wouldn't have SMILED -- DUH!" etc. People who refuse to look at the fiction as, well, fiction. It destroys me.

Like, I wouldn't judge Molly Hooper if she was my friend and had a crush on some cheekboned asshole. But I can pass judgement on a piece of fiction because of what it's saying about women, etc.

.... sorry. I'm ranty today.
fauxkaren 19th-Dec-2012 06:42 pm (UTC)
LOL I HAVE ENCOUNTERED THOSE PEOPLE TOO.

And like, omg. Do they not realize that River is not a real person? But she's a character whose writer has manipulated her life to entirely revolve around the Doctor and perhaps that is problematic???? On the part of the writer??? Maybe???

omg. Fandom is so dumb sometimes. I can't.
sarahvma 19th-Dec-2012 06:42 pm (UTC)
During the Q&A after Scandal in Belgravia, I wanted to smash some things. Especially when he said he was reading the original story and "realized" that the only reason Sherlock thought Irene was special was because he had a crush on her.

Because of course he couldn't genuinely admire her intellect. All about the titteez.

Again, not looking forward to the Moffat-run Who as I finish up the last of the Russell T Davies series.
sherlockholmes 19th-Dec-2012 06:49 pm (UTC)
You can literally see me facepalm in the footage of that Q&A.

But yeah, I wrote a whole breakdown of why Irene in the BBC was horrible, because of that speech.
m_pendulum 21st-Dec-2012 07:29 am (UTC)
I don't think River Song is a fantastic female character, but I think she's a fun character and I enjoy her wholeheartedly. Do I think the writing for her is perfect. No. I don't worship Moffat and I don't think he's perfect, either.

But I just saw the date of your original post and I realized this probably won't get see so lol on me:)
sherlockholmes 21st-Dec-2012 11:10 am (UTC)
Right, and I like BBC Sherlock, and think it's problematic as...all hell. There is nothing wrong with liking this stuff -- it's just important to recognise the problems.
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