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Parenthood Post: Peter Krause and Max Burkholder discuss Asperger's, Vending Machines And More



It's been a difficult year for Peter Krause, who plays Adam on NBC's "Parenthood" (Tuesdays at 10 p.m. EST). The actor has had to fight cancer both on screen with the series' most emotional Season 4 storyline, Adam's wife Kristina (Monica Potter) battling cancer, and off screen with his father and mother's simultaneous battle with the disease.

Krause opened up to HuffPost TV via phone about his personal connections to cancer, the fear of loss and finding the humor in the most difficult times. He also assures "Parenthood" fans that what looks like a harrowing Christmas episode this week is "uplifting ... in the end."

What was your reaction when you found out about the cancer storyline for Season 4?
It put a big lump in my throat. I lost my dad to cancer in February and my mom was diagnosed with cancer in December so she's been undergoing chemotherapy. So it's been a year full of dealing with cancer both in my life and on the show.

I'm so sorry.
Yeah. It was interesting though, having it all go on at once. And my mother survived breast cancer 22 or 23 years ago.

How did being so close to the disease serve you in filming this season? Did it make some of the scenes more difficult to do?
It's difficult to go through, but that's part of the job of being an actor. Certainly, going through the things the characters did on "Six Feet Under" was challenging and difficult, but the reward was a well-told story. You know, I guess I'm saying it comes with the territory of being an actor so it wasn't especially hard or demanding or anything like that; it was just some difficult work and I think, if anything, it helped me play some of the scenes with a sense of what it's like to be with somebody day in and day out, who's going through chemotherapy treatments and how, as much as you can, you try to have some humor about things.

There was the end of the episode where Max had a sleepover with a friend and the last scene was written exactly how we played it with [Adam and Kristina] laughing in bed about the couple who'd gone to Vegas and was talking about "Zumanity." So having some humor surrounding it all is definitely something that you experience in life when you're trying to keep your spirits up and the spirits of your loved one that's going through it.

Another funny scene that came out of all of this was in that same episode when Adam went to Crosby -- with the kids in tow -- to try to get pot for Kristina.
[Laughs.] Holding Jasmine's G-string, yes. That was a very funny scene. Having those lighter moments is part of the journey and it's a funny thing because it can go from laughter to tears pretty quickly.


This season has been very well-received by both fans and critics, but was there a time when you worried that that wouldn't be the case because of the storyline?
I did at first. Sometimes in television, if there are storylines that are oft-told, people can be hypercritical of them. But I think the way that we do things on "Parenthood" is different from most shows. I don't feel like we've milked it for emotional effect. I think we've tried to follow the characters as believably as possible as they move through this in their lives and I think that that's something we've continued to do pretty well on "Parenthood" since we started. But I had some concerns that it would be, at times, melodramatic or too overwrought. I've tried, certainly, my hardest to keep it from being that way and I think that there are other times where we serve our audience by allowing them to go through something honestly. We walk across that emotional turf honestly and not try to make more of it or less of it.

We shot a scene recently for the upcoming episode (Season 4, Episode 11, titled "What To My Wondering Eye") where one of the themes is fear of loss and in this case, Adam is really afraid he's going to lose his wife. And it's my job as an actor to allow myself to really feel that fear so that's a scene coming up where I would be worried heading into it, "Oh gosh. I hope this isn't going to be too much," but I think that for those people who've experienced that fear -- certainly someone who's young and in their prime being taken before their time so to speak is something really difficult and I have some friends who've gone through that with siblings and spouses and it's a particularly difficult thing, not only losing them, but the fear that you feel at the prospect of it.

What can you tell viewers about what to expect in this week's episode?
Well, I don't want to give anything away. It's a tough episode, but I think it's really uplifting. You're going to have to travel some tough terrain with the characters, but in the end, it's an uplifting episode.

A lot of the "Parenthood" cast members talk about the freedom Jason Katims gives you with the scripts -- even though everything is written -- to ad lib and such if you want. Is there anything that stands out to you that you added this season?
It's all there and if we do anything, we put a little spin on it. The map is there and everybody follows the map of the story. It's not like anybody's adding a story or taking one a way. Sometimes, because it's a collaboration, you don't even know who ideas come from anymore, whether it's the director Larry Trilling or even another actor.

Something I particularly enjoy about working with Dax Shepard is we're constantly giving each other suggestions, running with it and seeing what happens. Not this week's episode, but the one after, which Dax Shepard directed -- and I directed the one after that --- there are some things in the wood shop that I added that were kind of funny and then he let me go crazy when we're in the bathroom of this hotel and I'm in a smoking jacket, which was just meant to be funny. So in that episode, you'll see some comical additions to the script on my end. If it's included in the script, I'm not sure it will be in the final edit, but there's something that I'm just going to refer to as the Johnson file that comes into play, which I was happy about. [Laughs.]

What's your favorite scene you've shot so far for Season 4?
I think the favorite scenes that I've filmed this year have been as a director while working with Miles Heizer. It'll be the thirteenth episode this season and it's a particularly dramatic episode for the character of Drew. As an actor, there have been many scenes I've had with Monica and Max [Burkholder] that have been very meaningful to me, but as a director, working with Miles Heizer this year has been a special experience and it's a really strong episode for him and I'm really proud of the work he does in the episode.
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Max Burkholder On Kristina, Asperger's, Vending Machines And More.



"Parenthood" viewers have been fearing this week's Christmas episode (Tues., Dec. 11 at 10 p.m. EST on NBC), which sees Kristina's (Monica Potter) health taking a turn for the worse after being diagnosed with cancer earlier in Season 4.

Max Burkholder -- who plays Max, the son of Kristina and Adam Braverman (Peter Krause), on "Parenthood" -- told HuffPost TV via phone that he "cried so much" when he read the script for the NBC series' Christmas installment, titled "What to My Wondering Eyes." Below, 15-year-old Burkholder talks about Max's journey with Asperger's, Kristina's fate, missing his TV sister Sarah Ramos, seeing his TV mom smoke pot and that damn vending machine.

Max has really come a long way this season. What do you love about playing him?
I like seeing Max whenever he's in a social situation, seeing how much he's grown since the first season.

Jason Katims' son, who has Asperger's, partly inspired the character of Max. Have you met him or anyone else with Asperger's?
I have met him and I have met a few people with Asperger's. It's always an enlightening experience for me because before the show, I really didn't have much of an idea about what autism or Asperger's was. And since starting the show, I really feel like it's been a learning experience for me.

Do people come up to you who can relate to Max to thank you?
They do. When someone comes up to me and they say, "My son has Asperger's or my nephew or a friend of mine," it just makes me feel like what I'm doing can make a difference.

What goes into ensuring that Max's behavior and lines are true to someone with Asperger's?
When I was first auditioning, they brought in a doctor who specializes in children with Asperger's and he told us the basic stuff. Then, since we started shooting, every couple of episodes I have a meeting with the executive producer, and the director of the episodes, and sometimes some of the writers, and a doctor specializing in Asperger's and we just talk about what Max would be doing in certain situations, like how he would react to certain things and if everyone was over here doing this, what would Max be doing?

Is it difficult playing Max or has it gotten easier now that you're in Season 4?
It's still definitely challenging, but I feel that I've worked out who Max is so much better than in the first season so it definitely has gotten easier.

We've seen a little bit of him working with his classmates as school president. Will we see more of that in Season 4?
We won't see as many of the interactions with his classmates, but we still see a little bit of that.

Do you miss working with Sarah Ramos this season?
I do! I do miss her. A couple of times, we've been shooting a scene in the kitchen with me and Monica and Peter, and I've just been like, "Something is missing. Oh! It's Sarah."

I was crying watching the promo for this week's episode. It looks like the saddest Christmas ever.
Seriously. I almost never cry at movies or when I'm watching TV and I haven't seen the episode yet, but when I read the script, I was crying so much.

How will Max deal with Kristina's health issues during Christmas?
For Max, his connection to her and her cancer specifically is that he does not register it so much on an emotional level, more so on a practical level, like, "If Mom is not around anymore, she won't be able to drive me to school or make me eggs the way I like my eggs."

So I imagine in this week's episode, Max will struggle with her being in the hospital and Adam being there with her also.
Well, everyone in the family sort of pulls together and one of the jobs that they have to come together to do is make sure Max does not break down and have a meltdown. He has traditions on Christmas that he always does and if Mom's in the hospital, he can't do those, so some of the members of the family have to help him with that. I think it's going to be a really good episode. It's a really good family-coming-together motif.

Watching the promo, you're just thinking, "They can't kill Kristina."
[Laughs.] [Monica] is just so great on the show.

Especially this season.
Definitely.

The scene where Kristina was smoking pot and then Julia came over in last week's episode ...
That was hilarious! It was ridiculous!

What do you hope for Max in the rest of Season 4?
I want him to get the vending machine back!


How many times do you think Max has said vending machine this season?
Probably a good 50 times.

What do you think he'd do if he got it?
He'd get everything from that vending machine!

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What did you guys think of this week's episode? I loved Crosby and Jasmine and the brood. 
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expectingmore 13th-Dec-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
Best show on TV.

I don't understand how the Amber/Ryan situation escalated so quickly this week, though. Like, wtf.
iluvkidnappers 13th-Dec-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
ikr?! that was the worst part of the episode. the kristina scenes had me sobbing hysterically tho
treebraids 13th-Dec-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
I think the whole point of amber/ryan was to show us that she was not like her mother.
sad_1985 13th-Dec-2012 09:22 pm (UTC)
mte
fred2265 13th-Dec-2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
Indeed, totally inexpected..
ariesangel404 13th-Dec-2012 06:18 pm (UTC)
IKR? Damn.
williammiller 13th-Dec-2012 06:34 pm (UTC)
Right? They were getting along and then they're yelling/screaming at each other. I do like how Amber called it quits so they can have some space.
ciao_bella315 13th-Dec-2012 07:27 pm (UTC)
I mean... I live with a combat veteran. It was easy for me to see how quickly it escalated. He's obviously suffering from his time at war and I think hes done a great job at portraying the struggles of a soldier returning home. They're confused, feel exiled, and are quick to anger. And for somebody new to seeing that (amber) I can absolutely see why she said she needed some space.
bellwetherr 13th-Dec-2012 08:17 pm (UTC)
I think the Amber/Ryan situation was actually really realistic. Ryan has been a bomb waiting to go off since he started the show.
love_keiko 13th-Dec-2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
yeah it bugged the shit out of me.
jaimelannister 13th-Dec-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
I've been stockpiling S4 episodes. How good is it this season?
treebraids 13th-Dec-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
As good as last season if not better.
xeroxicide__ 13th-Dec-2012 06:22 pm (UTC)
I didn't want to watch this season because I fell so far behind so i just skipped 4-5 episodes and I'm hooked again anyway.
williammiller 13th-Dec-2012 06:34 pm (UTC)
It's really good!
xgirldc 13th-Dec-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
its SO good.
bellwetherr 13th-Dec-2012 08:17 pm (UTC)
It's amazing.
xo_soccer9 13th-Dec-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
might be their best season tbh
6pennylane 13th-Dec-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Seriously UGLY tears I cried so hard on Tuesday. This show IS so freaking good.

The only thing that bugged me was how fast a turn around from mark to hank! with NO mention of him. what about her family?! they aren't flipping her shit.

and i loved how realistic amber was in breaking up.

i would NOT have the patience to be max's parent. oh my word.
treebraids 13th-Dec-2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
I think they hinted at Mark drama when she was signing the xmas card, but obviously Loreli didn't want to talk about it.
6pennylane 13th-Dec-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
i love that you still call her lorelai. :)
anus 13th-Dec-2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
Heck her character is basically Lorelai if she hadn't gotten lucky creating a career from the Inn.
fakevoices 13th-Dec-2012 05:59 pm (UTC)
ikr, to the max part
i would lose my shit. bowing to parents who actually are faced with it
bellwetherr 13th-Dec-2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
tbh i am so glad mark is gone. he was such a fucking douche in the last few eps.
vienna_sausages 14th-Dec-2012 11:34 am (UTC)
meh. i'm so over mark, so it's all good.
deceitful 13th-Dec-2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
Is it their mission to make me feel things because really..Poor Adam and Kristina. I know it was a whole emotional family thing but would a nurse really allow 14 family members into the room of an ill woman who just had a really bad infection?

Amber/Ryan was weird but I'm glad she isn't making her mother's mistakes as she is obviously still making them. Lorelai 2.0
williammiller 13th-Dec-2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
I think if someone caught all of those people in Kristina's room the nurse would get a trouble but the grandfather did kind of bribe her and the other nurses + it was Christmas so who knows.
deceitful 13th-Dec-2012 06:52 pm (UTC)
True I just thought medically it wouldn't make sense because mere hours before she was deliriously ill. Then again, it's only television.
mynameismaryjo 13th-Dec-2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
as an icu nurse, i would definitely not allow that many people in the room, especially with her compromised immune system haha.
francesbcobain 13th-Dec-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
i half watched the last episode. i wanted to blow my brains out when the bb was crying for like 15 minutes. UGH. and wtf with that kid being worried about going to the mall when his mom was in the hospital? what a horrible child. your mom is going to the hospital. that's more important than going to the fucking mall.
francesbcobain 13th-Dec-2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
oh that is some unfortunate wording right there.
fakevoices 13th-Dec-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
he has Aspergers though, he doesn't express himself the way a "normal" person would
francesbcobain 13th-Dec-2012 06:02 pm (UTC)
oic. i didn't know that. i thought he was just a brat lol.
anus 13th-Dec-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
Was this your first episode or something?
euterpe_xx 13th-Dec-2012 07:47 pm (UTC)
yeah he has aspergers. people who have aspergers not only have trouble communicating properly, they have trouble understanding what is being communicated to them. so if someone doing something like yelling at them, they don't get that the person is probably angry with them.

and I haven't seen the episode, but if he had been originally told they would go to the mall, and then they didn't, I get why he was upset. people with aspergers also love a schedule and don't handle sudden change like that very well
kamikashi 13th-Dec-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
i think this winter break ill start this show up again. i dropped it back in season 2 cuz i was watching too many shows lol.
iluvkidnappers 13th-Dec-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
god. i was seriously SOBBING at kristina's scenes
rhcp 13th-Dec-2012 05:42 pm (UTC)
amber is a million times more mature than sarah. i'm glad she didn't stay with ryan although i really liked their relationship. i think it helped her grow up a lot.
fakevoices 13th-Dec-2012 05:57 pm (UTC)
that is always the case with parents like that their kids learn from their parent's mistakes
6pennylane 13th-Dec-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
i thought it was really realistic to have amber feel that way. it escalated fast, but she wasn't having it.
williammiller 13th-Dec-2012 06:39 pm (UTC)
So did I. I'm glad she realized the parallels between her relationship and her mother and father's and realized she didn't want to go down that road.
shanzer22 13th-Dec-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
I don't know why I can't get into this show. I can never make it pass the first episode.
soul_amazinn 13th-Dec-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
The last couple of seasons have been really good.
I think I've cried during every episode this season.
It's just an emotional show. Maybe it's just not for you? I would say try more episodes because it does get better.
ariesangel404 13th-Dec-2012 06:19 pm (UTC)
The first few episodes were weird to me but then I was hooked. It's so good.
xo_soccer9 13th-Dec-2012 11:57 pm (UTC)
i mean, it does get a lot better past the first 5 or so episodes and there are a bunch of strong storylines later on. maybe watch season 2 and see how you like it? it's really a great show!
lonexmirage 13th-Dec-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
I started watching this show on Netflix because I was bored and ended up watching the whole series in a few weeks. I was not expecting to even like this show. But now I'm caught up with this season and I swear, these writers are emotional ninjas. I have to watch this show alone in the dark so that no one will see me ugly cry/heave. Ugh, so much emotion.
hipsandhearts__ 13th-Dec-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
This is me exactly!
I didnt see a promo for this weeks Christmas episode so I had no idea that anything was going to happen with Kristina, so I completely lost it when Adam started watching the video for the kids on her laptop
reidacted 13th-Dec-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
Max, both as the character and actor, is flawless. QT interview. His personality really shines through.
ljubavirakija 13th-Dec-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
So, this show has gotten leagues better?
treebraids 13th-Dec-2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
The past two seasons have been great, I don't remember anything before that.
fakevoices 13th-Dec-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
i kinda wish they had kill kristina tbh
it would have created a good story
anus 13th-Dec-2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
I'm amazed NBC actually has such an amazing show. It deserves a billion awards.
ivysaur 13th-Dec-2012 06:05 pm (UTC)
I don't watch this show, because as someone with Asperger's, I'm wary of portrayals of AS in the media. And this?

For Max, his connection to her and her cancer specifically is that he does not register it so much on an emotional level, more so on a practical level, like, "If Mom is not around anymore, she won't be able to drive me to school or make me eggs the way I like my eggs."

Not helping at all. Nice stereotyping there.


anus 13th-Dec-2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
It's really more of an issue of sudden changes for him in his routine. Perhaps that's all stereotypical as well though. I'm not too educated on Asperger's
ivysaur 13th-Dec-2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
It kind of is stereotypical as well. I mean, I don't always deal well with sudden changes to my own routine, but OMGSHE'SGOINGTODIE would kind of be at the forefront of my thoughts on the matter if I were in the same situation.


I think the problem in general is that while everyone with AS will present at least a few of these stereotypes, the media portrays characters with AS as presenting ALL of the stereotypes. As in every single symptom. And this wouldn't necessarily be problematic on its own, but combined with the way AS is portrayed in the media in general, I can't help but side eye it. People with AS all express it in our own individual ways, but you wouldn't know it if all you know of AS is what you see in the media.
6pennylane 13th-Dec-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
ANNE OF GREEN GABLES GIF!!!!!!!!!!!
xeroxicide__ 13th-Dec-2012 06:27 pm (UTC)
To my knowledge his behavior is pretty severe in certain situations. I don't think they ever got him mainstreamed at school. If they did then I missed that episode. I thought he wasn't handling it but that was at least 15 episodes ago.
avalola 13th-Dec-2012 06:55 pm (UTC)
i'm sorry that offended you, but you may have missed the parts where they talked about the show's creator having a soon with AS and how they regularly bring in a dr "every couple of episodes" to talk about his portrayl of someone with AS.

max as a character is a good representation of AS and not a stereotype like he may sound. in that reaction remember he doesn't just have AS, he's also a child. so it seems normal to me that his first reaction might be about how that impacts his routine and himself, and not the true gravity of the situation. that's immaturity, not just AS.

i've been impressed with how they've handled the max storylines and how he's growing, but not in a cliche "turns out i was misdiagnosed i'm totally 'normal' now" way. you should catch an episode.
bellwetherr 13th-Dec-2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
Well, with the way it seemed in the show- Max was visibly upset but was talking mostly about the mall because he didn't seem to want to talk about it with his uncle.
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