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Which Movie Does Kevin Smith Prefer: "The Avengers" Or "The Dark Knight Rises"?

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Of course, the massive comic fan in Smith couldn't help but get into the fray with "The Avengers" vs. "The Dark Knight Rises" debate, and for him, Joss Whedon's movie came out on top.

"'The Dark Knight Rises' I have a weird relationship with – it's like a chemical romance with a toxic ex-girlfriend where I love her to death but there are some things about her that are just fucking wrong. 'The Avengers' I loved so more than I thought I would. I've written for Marvel but I was never an Avengers guy. I'm more DC," Smith elaborated. "But I've become obsessed with Favreau's 'Iron Man' movie because I think it's very nearly a perfect film. So when I saw Favreau wasn't doing it I thought, Well what do I care? The first time I saw it was in Australia and it opened a week before it opened here and we were traveling for the 'Jay and Silent Bob Go Down Under' tour and we had just done a show and we went to a midnight show. And the first time I saw it I could not get past the Loki poke-y stick in the beginning. Because Loki sticks something in somebody's chest and it's like 'WAAMP, you're a bad guy.' What the fuck? Is this the level of discourse we're going to have? But you can't deny that flick."

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The Avengers
448 (57.8%)
The Dark Knight Rises
144 (18.6%)
Can't I like both movies?
183 (23.6%)
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shhh_its_s3cr3t 11th-Dec-2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
I love The Avengers movie. But then again I've always been a Marvel fan and DC comics just don't cut it for me. I'm showing my age here but there will never be a superman like Christopher Reeve. There is no other Wonder Woman like Linda Carter. My Batman will forever be Michael Keaton. They have tried over and over to get their act together and its just been massive FAIL. So I just plain gave up on TDK and I haven't watched them. I also can't watch TDK because Heath.. :(
anna_karenina_x 11th-Dec-2012 07:47 pm (UTC)
Haven't seen either movie yet. Damn, I need to get out more..
theblackwidow 11th-Dec-2012 07:50 pm (UTC)
I actually rly liked TDKR when I saw it but I have no desire to see it again. The Avengers, on the other hand, gave me a strange compulsion to keep rewatching. I saw it 7 times in the cinema. /no regrets
maryjane7547 11th-Dec-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
The tdkr had to much fuckery to ever be considered a good film: whitewashing 2 major characters, chris "ice-to-meet-u" nolan trying and failing to handle 2 major female characters, and that stranger bitch robin. I'll overlook one of these things but not two and especially not 3. On the other hand the avengers was mostly enjoyable.
sandvich 11th-Dec-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
I still haven't seen TDKR, oop.
bellwetherr 11th-Dec-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
I was more entertained by TA. It just seemed like Nolan completely gave up on TDKR.
war_machine_rox 11th-Dec-2012 07:54 pm (UTC)
Idk, I enjoyed TDKR. But overall, as rewatch material it goes to The Avengers. But I like lighthearted fun movies and we all know that The Avengers 2 will be the Empire Strikes Back of the films. All 2nd movies of trilogies try to be the darkest of them all.

Which means in two years expect Avengers 2 vs TDK
ladyofmachinery 11th-Dec-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
I liked the Avengers but I liked TDKR better.

Not that my opinion matters much but here's my 2c's: I grew up reading the comic books/GN's. I own 3 boxes of them and am a massive Batman fan. And I felt like the Nolan movies were the only ones that did the comic books justice. I always preferred the darker story lines and I felt that Nolan's movies captured that pretty well. Especially The Killing Joke. I mean my fav GN's have always been The Killing Joke, Mad Love, The Long Halloween, Knightfall, Arkham Asylum etc and they're all pretty dark in comparison to some others. I don't mind the first couple of the older Batman movies but I don't love them either. I never had any expectations that there'd be a Batman movie I'd actually love. But I loved all three of these Nolan flicks even with some of those flaws. TDK was obviously the best but I liked BB and I definitely liked TDKR as well despite some of its flaws. I liked seeing Bruce Wayne vulnerable and human so to speak so that aspect of the movie didn't bother me one bit.

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quack 11th-Dec-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
I liked both movies very much and people compare things too much. Movies aren't sports teams you can like more than one ok

though I must say I am displeased with the state of DC Comics rn. The stuff that's happened since ~the new 52~ has destroyed pretty much everything I loved about them and the fact that they're slowly killing off vertigo is going crush the rest of good that's left. I miss the dc comics of old~
alwayscaffeine 11th-Dec-2012 08:03 pm (UTC)
The problem with TDKR for me was that it took itself way too seriously.
Also, Talia's entire existence (and death) in that movie was just embarrassing.
The Avengers was nothing groundbreaking but it was pretty enjoyable. I'd probably watch it again.
jaimelannister 11th-Dec-2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
Personally, I had so much fun watching the Avengers.
insomniachobs 11th-Dec-2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
I liked TDKR, but I think Avengers is much more re-watchable
dovecage 11th-Dec-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
Loki's magic stick makes even the goody goody boys turn bad.
kaiserschmarrn 11th-Dec-2012 08:14 pm (UTC)
I liked them both for different reasons. Avengers is funnier while TDKR had more of an emotional impact on me despite all its flaws. The fight between Bane and Batman in the sewers >>> any scene in Avengers though.
erraticxemotion 11th-Dec-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
I'm loyal to my Batman.
smirk_dog 11th-Dec-2012 08:57 pm (UTC)
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