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Which Movie Does Kevin Smith Prefer: "The Avengers" Or "The Dark Knight Rises"?

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Of course, the massive comic fan in Smith couldn't help but get into the fray with "The Avengers" vs. "The Dark Knight Rises" debate, and for him, Joss Whedon's movie came out on top.

"'The Dark Knight Rises' I have a weird relationship with – it's like a chemical romance with a toxic ex-girlfriend where I love her to death but there are some things about her that are just fucking wrong. 'The Avengers' I loved so more than I thought I would. I've written for Marvel but I was never an Avengers guy. I'm more DC," Smith elaborated. "But I've become obsessed with Favreau's 'Iron Man' movie because I think it's very nearly a perfect film. So when I saw Favreau wasn't doing it I thought, Well what do I care? The first time I saw it was in Australia and it opened a week before it opened here and we were traveling for the 'Jay and Silent Bob Go Down Under' tour and we had just done a show and we went to a midnight show. And the first time I saw it I could not get past the Loki poke-y stick in the beginning. Because Loki sticks something in somebody's chest and it's like 'WAAMP, you're a bad guy.' What the fuck? Is this the level of discourse we're going to have? But you can't deny that flick."

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The Avengers
448 (57.8%)
The Dark Knight Rises
144 (18.6%)
Can't I like both movies?
183 (23.6%)
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warsawed 11th-Dec-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
I liked the funny parts of The Avengers but overall it felt really empty to me idk. I just felt like there were no stakes, I was never nervous for any of the characters, and the plot fell flat.

I loved Loki tho. :) And the character development.
mrsdracula 11th-Dec-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
iawtc
sillycucumber 11th-Dec-2012 10:07 pm (UTC)
I really agree, it all felt too silly and loud any there wasn't any intensity, like, "Holy shit, how are they going to solve this?" And that's the best part of any superhero movie, imo.
superpchan 11th-Dec-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
I never saw The Avengers and I'm having the hardest time finding the interest to watch it for some reason.
hawaii_bombay 11th-Dec-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
This is me with DKR.
julietislimited 11th-Dec-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
I finally watched it today and don't get me wrong I do like a lot of the characters but it didn't blow me away. I kind of kept going back to cleaning the house because I lost interest.
warsawed 11th-Dec-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Its really long for an action comedy
anydoppelganger 11th-Dec-2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I kept looking at my phone and being like "When is this going to end? what, there's still another hour left?" It was enjoyable but LONG.
spankmypirate 11th-Dec-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
Definitely The Avengers. It gave me everything I wanted, and more.

TDKR was such a letdown. First of all, there was far too much screentime wasted on JGL's character, and secondly, it was the biggest example of how embarrassed Nolan is that he was making a film about Batman. Bruce, the titular character, was literally crippled or shoved away in a dark cave for about 68% of the movie. It was so annoying and while I enjoyed Tom Hardy's Bane, a Batman film should be about fucking BATMAN.
allysouu 11th-Dec-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
That last bit it why Batman Begins is my favorite of the trilogy. I just loved Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne and I liked getting to see him actually play the character!
jaimelannister 11th-Dec-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah Batman Begins is my favourite. Plus more Cillian!
winniechili 11th-Dec-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
No option for neither?
ljubavirakija 11th-Dec-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
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starchain 11th-Dec-2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
you could have avoided the post
kwikimart 11th-Dec-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
FUCK THIS.
How the fuck does the spoiler tag work?!

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megedeborch 11th-Dec-2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
If you're still in need - < lj-spoiler > < /lj-spoiler > without the spaces.
kwikimart 11th-Dec-2012 07:36 pm (UTC)
Yesss!
Thank you very much : )
bssybuse 11th-Dec-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
neither
whiskybars 11th-Dec-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
And the first time I saw it I could not get past the Loki poke-y stick in the beginning. Because Loki sticks something in somebody's chest and it's like 'WAAMP, you're a bad guy.' What the fuck? Is this the level of discourse we're going to have?

fuck yes to this. what a flop villain.
yourlivewire 11th-Dec-2012 08:15 pm (UTC)
mte, pointing an laughing at him and his daddy issues tbh
timbershiver 12th-Dec-2012 06:14 pm (UTC)
I couldn't get over how all it took was Black Widow to bash Hawkeye over the head and then 'Hey guys, he's all better now" and that was fucking that wtf?
misscrystal 11th-Dec-2012 07:09 pm (UTC)
TDKR was a mess, but then most superhero movies are (that goes for all the Nolan Batman movies and the other supposedly "good" ones, like the Iron Man movies and the Spiderman reboot).

That said, The Avengers was a really, really good movie period.
punishermax 11th-Dec-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
How was The Dark Knight a mess?
misscrystal 11th-Dec-2012 07:21 pm (UTC)
It had a lot of plot holes and the performances were really uneven (JGL over acting, Anne under-acting) and some of the characters, who could have been really great, were criminally underwritten to the point of being almost pointless (Catwoman, Talia Al Ghul). And don't even get me started on that ending.

Certain parts of the movie resonated with me (the story of the prison, lawlessness in Gotham after the criminals took over), but overall the movie was unfocused and a bit lazy.
mcwicca 11th-Dec-2012 07:23 pm (UTC)
I would argue that TDK is a decent movie but Heath's performance was what made it amazing, not the movie itself.
julietislimited 11th-Dec-2012 07:10 pm (UTC)
not a fan of the new batman series
but I do adore this one (its my favorite batman film)



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brucelynn 11th-Dec-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
best one!!!!

so perfect I can't even , I remember my sis made a costume like Catwoman lol
kwikimart 11th-Dec-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
SAME!
honey_child 11th-Dec-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
They're playing that at my local theatre a few days before my birthday (next week) and I'm so damned excited. I bought my tickets so fast.
punishermax 11th-Dec-2012 07:14 pm (UTC)
Worst portrayal of the Penguin ever. Ruins the movie.
interrobamf 11th-Dec-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
Catwoman and Batman are also terrible.
misscrystal 11th-Dec-2012 07:15 pm (UTC)
This movie is pitch perfect. I love it sfm. The soundtrack is incredible, too.
ramonaflowers 11th-Dec-2012 07:20 pm (UTC)
i enjoyed the 2 dark knight movies, but yup this is my favorite too. anytime it comes on tv i'll probably start watching at any point.
cekhmet 11th-Dec-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
Definitely still the best. I love Nolan's trilogy, but they're not exactly something you can watch over and over - it's more of a one time ~experience.

I will watch this shit all day every day though. Keaton was a great Batman and Michelle was flawless at Catwoman.
starchain 11th-Dec-2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
this movie is perfect
maeir 11th-Dec-2012 07:40 pm (UTC)
This, to me, will always be the quintessential batman movie.

I don't even put this in the same category as nolan's batman movies.
spankmypirate 11th-Dec-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
I love this film so much. Sheer perfection.
quack 11th-Dec-2012 08:03 pm (UTC)
batman returns is still my favorite batman film

although I like the nolan films better than the ones besides BR
interrobamf 11th-Dec-2012 08:30 pm (UTC)
lol at people liking this mess of a movie.
m_pendulum 12th-Dec-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
Bowing at your taste.
timbershiver 12th-Dec-2012 06:15 pm (UTC)
Shit, it's Christmas, I must watch this again!
_dennis_csi_ 11th-Dec-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
Loki was such a flop villian but a needed one

Can't wait to have a proper villian in the Avengers 2
starchain 11th-Dec-2012 07:11 pm (UTC)
Avengers all the way.
I really dislike Nolan's movies and his Batman trilogy is really not my kind of stuff. I do like his villains though, Hardy was flawless as Bane, it gave me the whole movie with one single look.
ballooon 11th-Dec-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
lmao avengers was so embarrassing and the quintessential tumblr fat girl movie
punishermax 11th-Dec-2012 07:18 pm (UTC)
What?
theblackwidow 11th-Dec-2012 07:42 pm (UTC)
HDU I'm rly skinny
bellwetherr 11th-Dec-2012 07:43 pm (UTC)
you're gross.
enema_recipe 11th-Dec-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
idgaf about the avengers, but you've been trolling for awhile around here and I'm surprised you haven't been banned yet.
yourlivewire 11th-Dec-2012 08:17 pm (UTC)
there's a lot of people i'm shocked haven't been banned yet, especially when their trolling veers into harassment territory.
ginormouspotato 11th-Dec-2012 07:12 pm (UTC)
they're both so different tho it's weird to compare them
palmsread 11th-Dec-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
don curr for this kid's preferences, opinions, feels, etc.
solitudete 11th-Dec-2012 07:29 pm (UTC)
MTE
enema_recipe 11th-Dec-2012 07:58 pm (UTC)
I really do not understand why he is famous anymore. Maybe so neckbeards can feel that they can make it too?
fancycarousel 11th-Dec-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
Didnt really like both of them, tbh..
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