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10:44 am - 12/10/2012

Kate hoax call DJs tearfully apologize; Kate still ill



They expected a hang-up and a few laughs. Instead, the Australian DJs behind a hoax phone call to the U.K. hospital where the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge was treated were in tears Monday as they described how their joke ended up going too far.

The phone call — in which they impersonated Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles — went through, and their station broadcast and even trumpeted the confidential information received. Whatever pride there had been over the hoax was obliterated in a storm of worldwide public outrage after Friday's death, still unexplained, of the first nurse they talked to.

"There's not a minute that goes by that we don't think about her family and what they must be going through," 2DayFM radio host Mel Greig told Australia's A Current Affair, her voice shaking. "And the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut-wrenching."

She and co-host Michael Christian spoke publicly about the prank for the first time in the televised interview. A separate interview on rival show Today Tonight also aired Monday.


Both DJs apologized for the hoax and broke down in tears when asked about the moment they learned that the nurse, Jacintha Saldanha, was dead. But neither described having reservations before the hoax tape was broadcast; they said higher-ups had made the decision to air it.

"We didn't have that discussion," Greig said.

Southern Cross Austereo, the parent company of 2DayFM, released a statement Monday saying Greig and Christian's show had been terminated and there would be a company-wide suspension of prank calls. The DJs themselves remain suspended.

Nurse Jacintha Saldanha was found dead in her residence after she transferred a prank call from two Australian DJs asking about the Duchess of Cambridge's pregnancy.

Saldanha, 46, had transferred their call last week to a fellow nurse caring for the duchess, who was being treated for acute morning sickness. That nurse said the former Kate Middleton "hasn't had any retching with me and she's been sleeping on and off."

Three days later, Saldanha died. Police have not yet determined the cause of death, but many immediately assumed it was related to the stress from the call.

The DJs said when the idea for the call came up in a team meeting, no one expected that they would actually be put through to the duchess' ward.

"We just assumed we'd get cut off at every single point and that'd be it," Christian said.

"The joke 100 per cent was on us," he said. "The idea was never, 'Let's call up and get through to Kate,' or 'Let's speak to a nurse.' The joke was our accents are horrible, they don't sound anything like who they're intended to be."

"The entertainment value was in us," Greig added. "It was meant to be in our silly accents. That's where it was meant to end."

The decision to air the prerecorded call was made by executives higher up the chain, the DJs said.

Southern Cross Austereo CEO Rhys Holleran has called Saldanha's death a tragedy but defended the prank as a standard part of radio culture. He has also insisted the station had not broken any laws and had adhered to procedures.

On Monday, Holleran told Fairfax Radio the station had tried at least five times to contact the hospital to discuss the prank before it aired, but never succeeded.


When asked why the company made the attempts, Holleran replied, "Because we did want to speak with them about it." When pressed as to whether this meant the station had reservations about the prank, Holleran said only, "I think that that's a process that we follow and we have checks and balances on all those things."

In London on Monday, officials at King Edward VII Hospital denied that its management had been contacted by the radio station.

"Following the hoax call, the radio station did not speak to anyone in the hospital's senior management or anyone at the company that handles our media inquiries," the hospital said in a statement.

It also announced a memorial fund to help support the nurse's family, with the hospital making the first donation.

The hoax has sparked broad outrage, with the hosts receiving death threats and calls for them to be fired. Greig said she doesn't even want to think about returning to the airwaves.

"I remember my first question was, 'Was she a mother?"' she said on Today Tonight.

Saldanha had two children. Her husband, Ben Barboza, expressed his sadness on his Facebook page with a short note "Obituary Jacintha."

"I am devastated with the tragic loss of my beloved wife Jacintha in tragic circumstances," he wrote. He said she will be laid to rest in Shirva, India.

Meanwhile, there were indications that the Duchess of Cambridge was still struggling with acute morning sickness over the weekend, with her husband, Prince William, cancelling a Sunday night engagement.

Palace officials said her illness means she will probably not attend the U.K. premiere of The Hobbit film on Wednesday, where she and William are scheduled to be the guests of honour.


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forkmeup 10th-Dec-2012 04:01 pm (UTC)
What they did was awful, but at the same time, this woman must have had some serious underlying issues. I'm sure that they never anticipated that she would react in this way and I'm sure they feel horrible.
icallitwormlog 10th-Dec-2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
I disagree with this. Sometimes people are totally fine, and then a crisis happens and they lose it. A small percentage of suicides are totally impulsive, from people who have no depression or anything at all.
mynamehere07 10th-Dec-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
Yup, everyone has their point.
forkmeup 10th-Dec-2012 04:29 pm (UTC)
I highly doubt this ONE incident would be enough to get this woman to kill herself. I think there must have been something else going on with her to push her over the edge like this, because it's not like this whole thing was a crisis (like being losing your home in a storm or the death of a loved one) And even if she is part of that small percentage, how would these DJs ever anticipate her killing herself over this? Sure, I don't think they should have done the prank call at all and there should be rules against this, but I do think they feel incredibly guilty and that we should let them be.
m_h_p 10th-Dec-2012 04:43 pm (UTC)
Especially if they have the ready means to do so.

This woman's autopsy hasn't been carried out yet, but she may have overdosed on substances that she would have had access to as a nurse. Maybe if she hadn't had the chance to get hold of them, she could have ridden out her crisis point.
moonbeam59 10th-Dec-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
You can NEVER predict how someone will react, though. So imo don't deliberately fuck someone over unless you want to be partially responsible for the consequences, expected or not. While I'm sure they never intended for anyone to harm themselves, don't do malicious, humiliating things and then act like you thought everyone was going to be fine and dandy.

Edited at 2012-12-10 04:36 pm (UTC)
flightbyzephyr 10th-Dec-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
"So imo don't deliberately fuck someone over unless you want to be partially responsible for the consequences, expected or not."

Agreed. They must have known the amount of scrutiny they would be putting of the staff if they had succeeded. I'm not saying it's manslaughter but I am saying the need to take responsibly for what they did and for the result.
starry_nights22 10th-Dec-2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
agreed. i hate practical jokes for that reason. you never know how a person is going to react and you basically have no control. i mean if you were playing a joke on someone and they fell and snapped their neck or something, wouldn't you feel awful? i little exaggerated i know but things like that do happen.
whataboutdasha 10th-Dec-2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
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leatherandjeans 11th-Dec-2012 12:37 am (UTC)
Eh the nurse should have done her job and not given out information over the phone. That's like confidentiality 101.
gillianinoz 11th-Dec-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
Thank you. Spot on right.
69love_songs 10th-Dec-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
I don't think they anticipated that anything like on this scale would happen but i absolutely disagree that it's a given that the woman must have had underlying issues. Even though the palace said they made no complaint and the hospital said they were supporting the nurses through this tough time...can you imagine the amount of security and privacy stuff that would have gone into having such a high profile patient and then for the nurses to be taken in by a radio station...? that's an awful lot of pressure and i can see how it could have blown up into a huge crisis for the poor woman and made her feel absolutely desperate....people's jobs are important to them.

Idk, though, I'm just speculating. i'm just horrified by the whole thing, i remember reading it on twitter and my stomach just dropping. :( her poor family.
foxxywith2xs 10th-Dec-2012 04:59 pm (UTC)
i agree with this.

as for the argument that "everyone has their point", everyone does not have their point. how would this woman coped if her entire family died? how would she cope if she witnessed a murder? part of overcoming terrible things that happen to us include developing coping skills. she could have consulted an attorney or talked to risk management at the hospital. hospitals are stressful environments and emotionally draining so there should have been some resources available to her and if there weren't, then the hospital needs to address that internally.

i feel very sorry for her family, but if it wasn't this situation, how do we know it wouldn't have been something else?
krisgonn 10th-Dec-2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
yep!
libre_m 11th-Dec-2012 05:42 am (UTC)
Someone on reddit pointed out that many non-Western cultures have very different ideas about shame and losing face, and so while you may be right, Even though this woman was't the one who gave away the medical information, she was still subjected to international attentions and humiliation.

I don't think anyone could have necessarily predicted this specific outcome but they certainly knew going into it that they were going to, as I said above, subject at least one nurse to international attention and embarrassment, not to mention seeking out and making public a person's private medical condition, in the name of ratings. That they were okay with that already makes me think that the radio industry has a warped sense of what is acceptable as entertainment.
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