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LMAO you tried. way to miss decades of discourse about sexism in the comics industry and the obv hilarity of superhero costumes for women designed purely to arouse male readers and not, as you think, to defend against ~~~getting punched in the boob~~.

stay delusional bb, bey has already bought and werked what you wish you could. it'll be ok.

hunT, can you just...




no.

what's keeping those women from bruising at every punch isn't the tights, skirts, and heels, it's that they're abnormally strong and skilled. its funny you think most superheroine costumes are designed for bodily protection instead of, idk, aesthetic appeal.

i'd now like to direct you to www.google.com. while beyonce remains flawless in her superhero outfits and i remain unimpressed with your education



tyfyt

sooo you're proving my point

they're invulnerable, experienced fighters, guns and knives....not the costumes making a big difference. the costumes therefore are not designed for utility or practicality (like i originally argued and you tried to dispute?), they are made for aesthetic appeal. that is how superheroine costumes, traditionally, have been made.

your education about superheroes is noble and all but useless if you can't use it usefully in a discussion about them. you were wrong from the start. 1) bey has superhero costumes, 2) the first one i posted was designed to emulate superhero costumes (look at theirry's other designs from that tour or watch a few docs, they're clear about where the inspiration comes from), 3) the fact that her boob isn't protected from a punch means nothing b/c that's never been a concern for superheroine designs.

ty bb, it's been real fun :)

oh rmfe, you said superhero costumes. not "superhero costume for vulnerable people who are going to the battlefield, not the stage" and then you took this conversation all around the world with "yes female costumes are built for utility". all i said was that she has superhero costumes. and batwoman and huntress wear freaking capes, one of the biggest hazards ever, please don't try to argue that their costumes are practical even if their skin is covered (same applies to batman, but this is a conversation about the women, not the men).

i do not think that sasha fierce tour costumes should be legitimate crime fighting costumes. it is a superheroine costume, nonetheless, and for most women in comics, they are not designed for utility or practicality, so it's usefulness is irrelevant. legitimate comic superheroines, vulnerable or not, wear similar things. i don't expect beyonce, a brand new mother to enlist in anybody's army any time soon or to wear high heels and a leotard onto the field and fight crime, do you?

also, you should probably know that the halloween slutty costumes, or at least a few of them, are pretty damn close if not identical to the comic ones, and one of them (catwoman - not a superheroine, but still an iconic comic antihero) is actually halle berry's in the 2004 film Catwoman. where she was not invulnerable and still went around kicking ass and getting slammed in the stomach with poles. sadly her costume didn't help with that, but 100 points for sexiness and aesthetic appeal anyway, right?

stop trying to reconstruct your first comment and give it more meaning every time your argument falls apart.

ty for your time.

but that's not what you said. you just said superhero costumes and mentioned batman and iron man years later.

capes are still not practical because they could be seriously immobilizing if their back is turned to the wrong person, or it gets caught in something. heels are great for pointy objects but they can also make running hard and flipping impossible. these things have their uses, but overall there's no real practical reason for them. it's aesthetic appeal. somebody thought a cape looked good blowing in the wind, and ran with it. someone thought a girl's legs looked great in heels, and ran with it. your examples are not strong ones. these are still impractical.

beyonce's superheroine costumes are still inspired by real superheroine costumes. fighting is not her job, but plenty of superheroines do fight in useless get ups. you can't crawl your way around that.

and lol @ you thinking the critical reception has anything to do with this discussion. we're not judging movies and whether people LIKED them, we're talking about women's costumes. the movie and halle berry were poor, but that's still the costume they gave her. a live action superheroine(ish) character wore that in a fight sequence and was taken seriously. you can't pretend it didn't happen just 'cause it's not a good movie. it's an example of how bullshit and impractical superheroine(ish) costumes can be--which i said however many comments ago.

you're not even flip flopping, now you're just flopping. go read a comic book or something tbh, you're better at that.

but you still waited until after you got dragged to bring up batman/iron man? that's some last minute backtracking shit, and i think it's clear my definition of superhero costume from the start has been what female comic characters wear and their purposes. basically: bey's still got them.

and you could've taken that, but unfortunately you felt superheroine costumes were intended to be pragmatic. LOL.

www.marvel.com

bye now have fun!

and i told you why those costumes failed the practicality test while still being considered superheroic, the same way beyonce's fails a practicality test (that was your original argument) and can still be considered superheroic? even though you agreed, your reasoning now is "there's nothing super about it" (there was nothing super about the one you agreed with either, it can't shoot bullets or make her fly so wtf?). i have shown you that female superheroines at times do not have anything super about their costumes. we're not talking super powers and invulnerability, we're talking about costumes. by those standards, beyonce's got a superhero wardrobe.

stay simple tbh

spin all day long and you were still shown why those costumes equally hinder those heroines and your criteria for "superhero costumes" is (ever changing and) weak. you said she doesn't have a superhero costume. you conceded she had a few. now you know she's got a whole wardrobe, courtesy of thierry mugler and confirmed by decades of superheroine costumes that are equally flashy, useless, and "superheroic".

thanks gorl.