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3:04 pm - 12/08/2012

Prank call was played for hours after nurse's suicide

Even after Jacintha Saldanha's death had been confirmed by the King Edward VII Hospital, her voice could still be heard playing over the airwaves of 2Day FM, which had spent all week capitalising on the hoax which now appears to have driven her to suicide.

While Britain and much of the world was learning details of the mother-of-two's death, the Sydney-based radio station, seemingly unmanned, was repeatedly broadcasting the moment Mrs Saldanha was fooled into thinking two DJs were the Queen and the Prince of Wales.

Despite half-hearted apologies from both 2Day FM and the presenters earlier in the week, the independent station could not resist the opportunity to milk its notoriety. As late as 5pm UK time Friday (4am Saturday AEDT), more than seven hours after Mrs Saldanha's death, 2Day FM's website was still plugging its royal scoop, which one of the presenters insisted was just a "big fat joke".

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/prank-call-played-for-hours-after-death-20121208-2b1y1.html#ixzz2EQc7NX71

My 2 cents:
I don't believe in hate campaigns and I hope there are no further tragedies for either the hospital staff or the 2DayFM team, (and I feel sorry for Kate, having this incident overshadow her joy for her pregnancy). I do think that Mel and MC should be fired. Did you know they had a banner on their website saying "best prank ever" still up hours after she died? It's been removed now so I don't know if they forgot it was there or decided to keep milking their prank. By Austereo's statement it seems that they will be back on the air in future and I personally don't think that's good enough. According to some reports, airing a prank without asking for consent from the pranked person is illegal in Australia. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Btw sorry mods, stuffed up the lj cut first time around.
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stop_drop_rolll 8th-Dec-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
i honestly think that they deserve to sit in jail. no, i don't think that that is an overreaction. they are assholes and they deserve every bit of shame that they get.
fabouluz 8th-Dec-2012 05:58 am (UTC)
Mfte
mementox 8th-Dec-2012 06:01 am (UTC)
What? Why though? It was a totally tasteless prank but what did they do that warrants jail?
stop_drop_rolll 8th-Dec-2012 06:08 am (UTC)
did you miss the part where it said the girl died?
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:15 am (UTC)
Hmm maybe not jail unless charges are pressed for involuntary manslaughter. I don't know how that works though. I think at worst the station will be reprimanded/fined for airing a prank without the consent to air it first from the deceased who was one of the pranked hospital staff. It hasn't been confirmed yet whether or not it was illegal but Austereo say they are confident they didn't break any laws, (because apparently they just want to save their own asses).
roguedandelion 8th-Dec-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
I agree completely. This thread is so crazy I can't.
okmewriting 8th-Dec-2012 01:25 pm (UTC)
Unlawfully obtaining personal information. I believe the Criminal justice act 2008 allows for a custodial sentence, as well as the fines in the Data Protection Act 1998.
infinitycluster 8th-Dec-2012 06:15 am (UTC)
I agree, something should happen. I'm not even sure what, but this whole thing was so unethical and should not be taken lightly.
soavantgarde 8th-Dec-2012 07:03 am (UTC)
um no
ellenelles 8th-Dec-2012 04:04 pm (UTC)
yeah, no
fabouluz 8th-Dec-2012 05:57 am (UTC)
Fucking cunts, that station should be shut down
x_neverenough 8th-Dec-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
ugh, fuck this radio station. so disgusting.

also, they seriously had a banner that said "best prank ever"??? what world are these delusional people living in.. even before this tragedy, how was that even funny. what morons
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:05 am (UTC)
I'm Australian and I don't find so called "Aussie humour" funny in the slightest :/
miss_kate18 9th-Dec-2012 09:38 am (UTC)
How is this 'Aussie humour' though? It's not like we're the only country that has radio DJs making prank phone calls.
playthefool 8th-Dec-2012 06:10 am (UTC)
I just can't believe that at no point during the vetting process for this stupid fucking audio clip they didn't consider that at the VERY least the prankees would be publicly humiliated and/or have their jobs endangered. Confidential medical information regarding the royal family was involved, jfc. I can believe that they didn't think they'd get through, but then they did get through, and on top of that it was PRE-RECORDED, so everyone had time to fucking think about it. And they still aired it. That whole ~they weren't doing it to be malicious~ schtick is such a load of bullshit.

While saying the DJs drove this woman to her death or should be put in jail for murder is a little much, I don't think they're at all blameless for humiliating her and putting her job on the line for cheap laughs. Those things in and of themselves are horrible, and that it may have contributed to her committing suicide is just tragic.
fanabana 8th-Dec-2012 09:03 am (UTC)
I agree with all this. This is a prank that always had the potential to ruin this woman's life and yet they went ahead and did it. Shame on them.
microminiscrew 9th-Dec-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
thank you.this was more than a little bit of lol hey i have an idea! and even it was, they still should face consequences for thinking this up to start
vanishingbee 8th-Dec-2012 06:11 am (UTC)
I think that one of the things really bothering me about the whole fire them/don't fire them debate is that ultimately, firing them (if it happens) won't mean anything. The radio station behind this CLEARLY doesn't have a problem with the types of actions their DJs are taking, or else this wouldn't have been so incredibly hyped up. The kind of thoughtless, petty, cruel-but-omg-I-was-just-joking!!!! mentality on display here is absolutely disgusting, and so much in line with a lot of the things wrong with the collective western culture. Attitudes like that cause suicides all the fucking time, and the fact that this was all pre-recorded and gleefully extolled upon with no thought of the consequences is just... IDEK. Predictable. Disgusting. Typical of bullies, and of people who never want to admit that they're wrong. People who think that if they're laughing, and maybe someone else is laughing, that their actions and words don't hold real consequence, and any negative reaction to them is OTT and the other person's fault and ~omg you guys just get over it~.

A woman is dead because of those attitudes, and she isn't alone. I'm pretty sure everyone who reads this comment has heard about more than just scenario in terms of words/taunting resulting in suicide, if they don't actually know someone who killed themselves personally because of the same. I do. I dealt with similar feelings, because years of being bullied as a child doesn't just go AWAY, and you can be set off by people bringing that cruelty back into your adult life.

Those DJs are pigs. The radio station deserves to be shut down. The entire mentality of humour justifying cruelty needs to fucking stop.
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
I couldn't agree more. There have been multiple incidents of pranks gone wrong and generally distasteful/downright disgusting content on all of Austereo's stations. They just don't care :/
derrobitch 8th-Dec-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
yeppppp 2dayFM give no fucks about any of this. this is a station that fucks up REPEATEDLY and every time the DJs responsible go unpunished because they value ratings above anything else.

this is why i listen to triple j
saltireflower 8th-Dec-2012 07:39 am (UTC)
The kind of thoughtless, petty, cruel-but-omg-I-was-just-joking!!!! mentality on display here is absolutely disgusting, and so much in line with a lot of the things wrong with the collective western culture.

Ugh THIS. I am sick of people thinking their behavior should be acceptable if it's supposed to be a joke. A lot of bullies try to use so called humor to humiliate people, and then don't face any consequences because they were just ~joking~
xliquidskiesx 8th-Dec-2012 10:07 am (UTC)
The kind of thoughtless, petty, cruel-but-omg-I-was-just-joking!!!! mentality on display here is absolutely disgusting, and so much in line with a lot of the things wrong with the collective western culture
I completely agree. I hate that "it's just a joke" is so often given as an excuse.
inferiarecoming 8th-Dec-2012 11:44 am (UTC)
Well said. 2dayFM needs to just not be around anymore.
omgitskatharine 8th-Dec-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
i bowed so low to this comment i damn near threw out my back. this is SO TRUE on every fucking level.
infinitycluster 8th-Dec-2012 06:11 am (UTC)
ok I'm not playing the ontd PhD card but I have worked in mental health and in hospitals, and confidentiality is a major issue to anyone trained to work in those fields. So if this poor woman got flustered and those DJs caused her to panic and go against everything she was taught and patch the call through I can see why she would be devastated. I know I would have felt like I failed as a professional. It was cruel and reckless to do this horrible "prank" on a woman who would naturally take it very seriously. Its unfair and unkind to assume that she was just waiting for some excuse to take her own life. This proves that the prank was unethical to the highest degree.
roguedandelion 8th-Dec-2012 06:12 am (UTC)
Like wow at this thread. All of you self righteous people didn't think this was kind of funny before her death? Not even a little bit? You all thought it was grave and tasteless and and of course you'd never say anything to embarrass someone or be rude to someone you didn't know, for fear of their unknown mental state.
Calling for jail time??? Give me a break. This fucking site says worse about people, famous and otherwise, and publicly embarrasses people every fucking day of the week.
numbedtoe 8th-Dec-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
No i didn't think it was funny because let's remove the nurse's death. People who are sick have an exception of medical privacy that the general public shouldn't be allowed to break. You, me, the fucking royal family, everyone. but then i've spent a shit load of time in hospitals with myself and loved ones and it's not exactly a relaxing environment as a rule.

i'm personally not saying these idiots deserve jail time, though i saw that comment too. I'm saying to me it was always a stupid stunt because it's not just an invasion of privacy it's an invasion of medical privacy.
vanishingbee 8th-Dec-2012 06:26 am (UTC)
The first I heard about this, the nurse was already dead, but no I do not think I would have found it ~sew funny. What exactly is funny about the scenario? They fooled a woman into humiliating herself, probably made her feel as though she had betrayed the trust/ethics of her job, and at the minimum, were doing it with a goal in mind to disturb a woman going through a very trying first trimester. Where is the humour with that?

People on ONTD say worse things, but I do not. I'm sick of this BS attitude. What they did wasn't okay before this woman killed herself, and it wasn't okay because it is part of larger patterns of behaviour that cause people real harm & distress all the time.
shadwrayvn 8th-Dec-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
Never thought it was funny especially as a medical professional the prank was horrible! Idc if it was Kate Middleton or Kate from down the street impersonating someone & trying to get confidential medical info is against the law.
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
I thought the prank was really lame actually, its awful that the nurse who transferred the call committed suicide, I thought the worst that would happen would be the first nurse losing her job (and the prank really wasn't worth that if that had been the outcome).
ladysophiekitty 8th-Dec-2012 07:04 am (UTC)
No, because people's jobs were at risk, not to mention wasting the time of a BUSY HOSPITAL for a prank. Plus, say what you want about ONTD but what people say stays here, the entire world does not hear about it.
expromqueen 8th-Dec-2012 07:15 am (UTC)
i didn't think it was funny before but just cause it wasn't funny. i like a good prank but this wasn't one. what happened afterwards is just depressing. and i'm pretty sure ontd has never indirectly caused a suicide
saltireflower 8th-Dec-2012 07:47 am (UTC)
No I do not find it funny that they thought to prank call a hospital where people are naturally under stress. They wanted to contact Kate who was obviously ill from her pregnancy, so they're a bunch of assholes to begin with. Dragging busy, overworked hospital staff into it just adds to it.
ellecain 8th-Dec-2012 08:07 am (UTC)
Thank you for injecting some sense into that post.

For what it's worth, I thought it was funny. And while that nurse's suicide is terrible, it doesn't change the fact that it was funny. I mean their accents were so bad, you could tell it wasn't legit!

And all those people who are like OMG invasion of privacy are the exact same people who would be first in line to watch a Kate Middleton sex tape lbr.

Like, ONTD exists because people love getting this info.
lconic 8th-Dec-2012 02:09 pm (UTC)
this.
quidscipio 8th-Dec-2012 08:19 am (UTC)
no, this is on a whole different level. having worked in healthcare, this kind of stuff would get my ass fired and sued so fucking bad that there's nothing remotely funny about it. it goes beyond a harmless prank and into a serious invasion of privacy.
sukha4 8th-Dec-2012 09:08 am (UTC)
No and you can read the initial post where most people were saying it's in poor taste and could put someone's job at risk
xdecadentx 8th-Dec-2012 12:57 pm (UTC)
Read the initial thread, very few people thought it was funny iirc.
ebertrules 8th-Dec-2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
In the original post everyone thought the prank was lame and worried about the nurse losing her job so ONTD passes the hypocrisy test on this one.
thebootyfaerie 8th-Dec-2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
I really don't see how pranks are supposed to be funny in the first place.
sastra_fuss 8th-Dec-2012 04:23 pm (UTC)
i thought it was ridiculous that they even got through. i heard a snippet of it and i'm still wondering how they didn't get hung up on. like, i doubt the queen of England would be muttering in the background about dogs during a real phone call
celtic_thistle 8th-Dec-2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
No, it's not fucking funny. It's tasteless.
francesbcobain 8th-Dec-2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
i didn't think it was funny. i was more worried about her losing her job tbh.
microminiscrew 9th-Dec-2012 06:45 am (UTC)
No, I can say I didn't find anything funny about accessing the private info of a sick woman. It's not us, it's you.
derrobitch 8th-Dec-2012 06:13 am (UTC)
they won't be fired. the radio station is 2dayFM and they employ the #1 most hated man on radio, kyle sandilands. "vile kyle" is pretty much hated by the australian public, every 6 or so months there's controversy surrounding him and the fucked up things he says on air (called a journalist a fat slag because she didn't give him a good review; asked a 14 year old rape victim if her rape was her only sexual experience; etc etc). every time the public calls for his sacking, he gets off with a 'warning' and sometimes a suspension at the most. they'll never fire him because "ratings!!!!!!!!!"

these two fuckwits will be back on the air in no time.
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:21 am (UTC)
Yep. *sigh*
arnoldthepigeon 8th-Dec-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
Australian media can be the worst and sadly this is true.
lucky_rabbit 8th-Dec-2012 06:35 am (UTC)
But that fuckwit Kyle is in a completely different position than these two, he's been with the network for years but according to the article the guy who did this only started on the show the day before this happened. They'll be fired for sure.
derrobitch 8th-Dec-2012 06:42 am (UTC)
i don't give austereo that much credit. they probably see this whole thing as a huge opportunity for RATINGS~~~
awakejupiter 8th-Dec-2012 06:51 am (UTC)
Part of me feels they might be fired because they're basically nobodies compared to Kyle Sandilands.
ellecain 8th-Dec-2012 08:07 am (UTC)
Kyle Sandilands is the worst.

I still remember the vile things he said about Britney Spears when she lost her virginity to Justin Timberlake.

He needs to go ASAP
courtkneee1 8th-Dec-2012 09:10 am (UTC)
kyle is awful, but do most people hate him? it's only the 20somethings on my facebook that i see hate his guts but most people seem to really love how "real" he is /gag. which i imagine is why he gets the ratings.
numbedtoe 8th-Dec-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
you know the nurses got bitched out.

this was probably just the straw that broke the camel's back for this poor woman.

idk whole goddamn thing is a mess.

idgaf about royals ~uppity colonialist~ but this prank was tacky as hell since even if they didn't expect to get put through Kate deserves privacy in her medical issues. I know tabs try and get confidential medical info but there should be laws against that shit.

not that say rupert murdock would care.
mementox 8th-Dec-2012 06:31 am (UTC)
There's no way they didn't get in trouble even if the hospital says they supported them... when I worked at a veterinarian a lady called to verify that "her" dog was up to date on shots and I gave her the info. And then a day later the real owner called and said the lady earlier was her neighbor and was all pissed off I gave out the info. I got in trouble from my boss. And we don't even have privacy laws, cuz you know, IT'S A DOG. I can't imagine someone in the human medical field NOT getting in trouble for giving out info, especially about the Duchess.
in_suburb 8th-Dec-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
Wow.
numbedtoe 8th-Dec-2012 09:09 am (UTC)
damn that sucks about your job. people are nuts.

i know england doesn't have HIPPA like we do in the USA but my mom was a nurse and then we did the flip side when she was sick and they don't fucking play with the privacy stuff. So i don't believe that hospital for a second when they say they backed their staff. they had to have bitched those nurses out. And considering it's the mother of the future ruler of Britain i'd be shocked if someone didn't get fired. that was before this tragic death, now maybe nobody will, but there is no way someone wouldn't have lost their job. I agree completely. The hospital is trying to cover their own butts.
roxas39 8th-Dec-2012 06:23 am (UTC)
I"m really concerned for her kids.
starchain 8th-Dec-2012 06:24 am (UTC)
This story is still baffling to me. I don't understand any of it. I know the facts but I just don't understand the thought process behind it and I don't understand how people are reacting to it. How were people responding to this prior the nurse's suicide?
everybodysmile 8th-Dec-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
Well ONTD thought the joke was distasteful and not even funny, some members mentioned that she'd probably lose her job and that it was a depressing start to the holidays.
starchain 8th-Dec-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
It is in poor taste but I kind of see how they thought it wouldn't be a big deal. Because I would have never thought something like this would last more than 5 seconds.
I feel very bad for thinking this about a woman who was so deeply shaken by this that she committed suicide but how could she fall for it?
How can a person living in Britain think that the Queen would call the hospital reception landline herself?
I just don't understand how this could happen.
vanishingbee 8th-Dec-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
the mentality behind the prank is to gain money/ratings/fame without a care about the methods they use to do so
arisingphoenix 8th-Dec-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
The radio station, the Djs, and whoever specifically ok'd this are assholes. As much as we want to say it was a harmless prank because they thought they'd get hung up on, the fact is they didn't and it was pre-recorded. They HAD to know,all involved that is, that because it went through and they got info SOMEONE was probably going to get in trouble or possibly fired and they STILL went through with it for their own gain (ratings, whatever). To me that changes things. Once you put someone elses livelihood in danger that's no longer harmless. it wasn't like this was live. It wasn't like they couldn't have stopped and not aired it. Instead the parties involved thought the joke was "funnier" than whatever the consequences for anyone else would be.
trinigren 8th-Dec-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
I never got how the prank was supposed to be funny in the first place. Who even prank calls a hospital? Radio djs really are the worst.
infinitycluster 8th-Dec-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
I agree. Pranks are often completely unethical. It bothers me that because someone calls an act a "joke" suddenly its permissible.
vanishingbee 8th-Dec-2012 07:16 am (UTC)
I think that "just for laugh gags" has it down to an art-- a prank that seems cruel ISN'T cruel when you let the person in on it before any real harm is done, and you don't try to humiliate them for falling for your set up. The joke shouldn't be to make someone feel badly about themselves.
xcollsangelx 8th-Dec-2012 06:49 am (UTC)
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

davetvs 8th-Dec-2012 07:30 am (UTC)
This whole thing is so stupid. It's sad that she killed herself but suicide is a personal choice and they aren't responsible for her death.
karahaha 8th-Dec-2012 12:17 pm (UTC)
What? No.
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