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12:30 pm - 12/07/2012

'Kill Those F---ing Yankees': PSY's Anti-U.S. Past Surfaces



"Kill them all slowly and painfully," the artist rapped at a 2004 anti-U.S. protest concert.

South Korean pop sensation PSY, aka Park Jae-sang -- might have won Americans over with his infectious breakthrough single, "Gangnam Style," but has America won him over? The singer will be forced to face those kinds of questions as several anti-American protest performances from his past have begun to surface.

At a 2002 concert staged in opposition to 37,000 U.S. troops stationed on the Korean Peninsula, Mediate reports, PSY took to the stage in gold face paint and a glittery red outfit, then lifted a model U.S. tank over his head before smashing it to pieces on the ground. The performance was a response to the death of two Korean school girls, killed in an accident with an American military vehicle, according to Korean website BusanHaps.com.

Then, two years later, a South Korean missionary was executed in Iraq -- a revenge killing for the country's support of the U.S. war in Iraq. During a protest concert, PSY rapped on the song "Dear American," "Kill those f---ing Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives/Kill those f---ing Yankees who ordered them to torture/Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers/Kill them all slowly and painfully."

PSY has appeared on Ellen and the Today show in support of his smash hit song, which has been downloaded 3 million times on iTunes, is the most-viewed video in YouTube history and has earned him more than $8 million, according to some estimates.

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kodakumi69 7th-Dec-2012 07:44 pm (UTC)
Fuck Psy.
cheapxdate 7th-Dec-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
this all makes me feel super uncomfortable and there is a lot of generalizing going on up in hurr.

seems a bit hypocritical tbh as well, but ... yeah. I don't blame him for disliking America, but he's really embraced our fame and fortune which now seems really fake and icky. disliking America =/= wishing death upon innocents. and if you are going to just assume every person in America has the same attitude/stance/feelings on what our government is doing... nhft.
amethystcitrine 7th-Dec-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
"our fame and fortune"

I thought he was a worldwide success?
lanavis 7th-Dec-2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
he still is milking it; he just happens to have other "cows"(i.e. other countries)
violue 7th-Dec-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I live here instead of a 3rd world country or some such, but I can't begrudge anyone for hating on america tbh

we sort of suck in a lot of ways
cheapxdate 7th-Dec-2012 08:04 pm (UTC)
I agree that I don't blame anyone for hating America (even though the decisions and actions are made by such a small group of our country), but the lyrics are OTT imo. Also, if he hates us so much, he should have declined all of the appearances/interviews etc that American hosts, anchors, journalists have requested.

eta - you may feel the same way .. just adding to conversation lol

Edited at 2012-12-07 08:05 pm (UTC)
amethystcitrine 7th-Dec-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
Also, if he hates us so much, he should have declined all of the appearances/interviews etc that American hosts, anchors, journalists have requested.

Could...could it be that...his opinions changed over time? :O
gagglefuck 7th-Dec-2012 08:31 pm (UTC)
we definitely do suck in a lot of ways. lol i'm american and i hate on america.
celtic_thistle 8th-Dec-2012 12:20 am (UTC)
It's true. I live here, though I'm from Canada (I came here as a kid but I cling to my Canadian citizenship like a raft, even if the Prime Minister is a disgrace) and I think there's a LOT the US needs to be held accountable for. But god forbid you question ANY of it. ~anti amurrikan~
drkshdw 7th-Dec-2012 08:01 pm (UTC)
and once again ONTD collectively makes up its mind about what they find offensive with each new post.
brucelynn 7th-Dec-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
LOL IRL
landwarinasia 7th-Dec-2012 08:05 pm (UTC)
He has every right to protest the way that US soldiers behave in SK. Not to mention all the problems they have with white North American men going into rural areas of the country to teach English sexually assaulting the women there.

I hate that the tone of this is so "WE LET HIM INTO AMERICA AND THIS IS HOW HE BETRAYS US." As though the West allowed him to become popular out of some great benevolence as opposed to thinly veiled exoticism and racism.
cheapxdate 7th-Dec-2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
IDK .. I can't fault the guy for hating America in light of that incident, but I can't respect that he can react so strongly and then happily bounce around on American talk shows...
landwarinasia 7th-Dec-2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
Why not? He needs to make money, doesn't he? He has Korean fans in the states, doesn't he? It probably made him more well known worldwide, didn't it? It's the not the job of the minority to be the perfect figure of martyrdom so as to really "deserve" sympathy or support.

How about instead we talk about the appalling way that Psy was treated on those American talk shows?
gagglefuck 7th-Dec-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
back when this incident happened, there was a lot of anti-american sentiment in korea for a number of reasons. some of the highest iirc. he got swept up into the anger like everyone else. then everything/one settled down.

there's this mob/herd mentality cultural thing that i wish i were more eloquent to explain that i want to apply here.



Edited at 2012-12-07 08:46 pm (UTC)
exlenne 7th-Dec-2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
This is very cut and dry.

PSY and other Koreans feeling that way about the American military is valid and should be taken seriously, and is what should be the focus of the media circus that is coming now (but it won't be).

But calling for the murder of "yankees", responding to needless military violence by calling for the death of American citizens, is not the proper response and any fallout PSY receives from those statements is deserved.

We are not our military, and most Americans oppose the conflicts we've gotten involved in, which is the entire reason Obama got elected in the first place.

Yes, we've got crazies, but half of your entire country split off to worship a tubby dictator. We've all got issues. Let's try to fix them instead of pointing our anger at people just trying to make it through life with no ties at all to the military of positions of decision making.
nene718 7th-Dec-2012 08:08 pm (UTC)
but half of your entire country split off to worship a tubby dictator

yeah...that's not how it worked
exlenne 7th-Dec-2012 08:11 pm (UTC)
Hyperbole.
sodhands 7th-Dec-2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
"half of your entire country split off to worship a tubby dictator"

are you fucking serious? The arbitrary line drawn between N/S Korea (chosen by U.S. military) was a decision forced upon innocent citizens, and now those people suffer terribly at the hands of a bunch of evil fuckwits. Families were split apart, unspeakable tortures go on in labour camps, generations are basically brainwashed because NK is so cut-off from the world. Your comment makes it seems like "half the country" decided to split off and worship a dictator. Your shitty excuse of "hyperbole" doesn't even apply, shut the fuck up.
bananasnrum 8th-Dec-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
"half of your entire country split off to worship a tubby dictator"

wowow wiki fail.
nene718 7th-Dec-2012 08:06 pm (UTC)
oop. guess his 15 minutes in the US are gonna end even faster now.
unlocked1111 7th-Dec-2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
lmao this post is a god damn mess. stay perfect ontd

landwarinasia 7th-Dec-2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
I FORGOT ABOUT THIS VIDEO HOLY SHIT
a_grumble_cakee 7th-Dec-2012 08:23 pm (UTC)
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
shanny_w 7th-Dec-2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
ARE THEY STILL TOGETHER??? I hope they get married on 12/12/12
celtic_thistle 8th-Dec-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
NO NOT THIS VIDEO
imnotasquirrel 8th-Dec-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
trigger warning plz
gagglefuck 7th-Dec-2012 08:07 pm (UTC)
Ruh roh. Welp. That's the end of Psy in 'Murica.

I'm sure that the Yangju highway incident wasn't the only reason why he rapped/sang those lyrics. American soldiers have been fucking up in Korea for a long time. That incident was probably the straw that broke the camel's back and led to him angrily venting. Whenever American soldiers do something fucked up, you bet it's all over the news in Korea (unlike here).


iluvkidnappers 7th-Dec-2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, i think this was a culmination of long-term resentment
arielcharming 7th-Dec-2012 08:19 pm (UTC)
Yeah, a reason to justify for complete lack of interest in everything related to this fad/meme/whatever it is.
zootycoonlady 7th-Dec-2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
welp. there goes his USA career.
can someone summarize the reactions in this post for me? my spidey senses tell me it's a hot mess.
sodhands 7th-Dec-2012 08:45 pm (UTC)
outraged americans
butthurt non-americans
self-hating americans
annoyingly black-and-white POVs everywhere
1% reasonable comments
anydoppelganger 7th-Dec-2012 08:51 pm (UTC)
lol this is way more accurate than my summary tbh
riookierin 7th-Dec-2012 08:51 pm (UTC)
Don't forget 'people that don't know what a hyperbole is'!
anydoppelganger 7th-Dec-2012 08:50 pm (UTC)
1) people defend psy and his words by saying that the American govt has fucked over so many people in so many wars that he's justified in everything he's saying
2) people defend psy's expression of anti-american sentiments but say he went to far when talking about killing people (civilians like mothers, daughters, fathers, etc)
3) people saying that he's disgusting, America fuck yeah
4) people who are tired of oppa gangnam style and are happy that maybe this means we won't ever have to hear from this guy ever again
one_song_for_me 7th-Dec-2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
Honestly, we Americans have no right to criticize this. Remember the hatred for any kind of Middle Eastern person after 9/11, even to this day? Or the Japanese after Pearl Harbor? (But not the Germans though b/c they look like us rme) Get off your high horses, we're no better America.
secura 7th-Dec-2012 08:37 pm (UTC)
ikr
landwarinasia 7th-Dec-2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Not to mention that people still whip out Pearl Harbor whenever they feel like it. I remember when people were saying that the earthquake/tsunami of 2011 was payback for PH.
miwa201 7th-Dec-2012 08:54 pm (UTC)
Yep, it was also when the Japanese female soccer team lost to USA.
delicious_pocky 7th-Dec-2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
while conveniently forgetting the atomic bomb in hiroshima and nagasaki
norway 7th-Dec-2012 09:27 pm (UTC)
I am still appalled, but unfortunately not surprised that the Americans saying that thought that it was even remotely okay to say.
shanny_w 7th-Dec-2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
that was sickening
celtic_thistle 8th-Dec-2012 12:23 am (UTC)
I remember that shit, ugh.
kaiserschmarrn 7th-Dec-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
Uhm there was a huge anti-German sentiment around the world after WWII. I guess it didn't persist in the US to this day because they never suffered a national trauma like Pearl Harbor at the hands of the Germans - if you go to most countries in Europ, the anti-German sentiment has only really lessened in the last few years and there are (understandably) still a lot of left over resentments.

I mean ia with the rest of your comment that Americans have really no place to talk when it comes to hating on other countries/people and there's racism involved there but that's not all there is to it.
a_grumble_cakee 7th-Dec-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)
You are not part of a hive mind... you can criticize both.
shanny_w 7th-Dec-2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
everyone forgets that
secura 7th-Dec-2012 08:37 pm (UTC)
this makes me laugh
punkylana 7th-Dec-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
this post is such a mess
cookie1223 7th-Dec-2012 08:45 pm (UTC)
this post reminds me of "Australia is not the only racist country in world" lol. Why some of you are butt hurt when we point out that being American means that you can get away with a lot of shit.
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