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11:03 pm - 11/28/2012

Dominic West and Romola Garai talk 'the Hour' and other things


If they shared the same fictional TV world, The Hour’s Bel Rowley would have become executive producer of a BBC news magazine in 1957, a few years before Mad Men’s Peggy Olson took a secretary job at Sterling Cooper. But Romola Garai says Bel is the brilliant fantasy of Abi Morgan’s sexy period drama, equal parts Broadcast News and The Philadelphia Story, in which her character runs ably alongside the men. Garai, whose recent credits include the miniseries The Crimson Petal and White and the film adaptation of David Nicholls’s One Day, rang Vulture from London this week to talk about where we pick up in season two  and why the actress thinks Bel wound up less loud and demanding than she could have been.

How have things changed for Bel since the end of season one?



Eight months have gone by and there’s been a pretty seismic shift in her life because she’s been running the show without Freddie. He was the creative in their partnership. She’s running the show very confidently in his absence, but some of the spark has gone out of the reporting. She does need him. They come very much as a team and his absence is really felt.

Right, it’s not that anyone is questioning her ability —

But there’s no question that a woman of my age — I am 30 — would be doing that job. And there’s no problem with that, The Hour is a drama after all. And I do think Abi quite deliberately made Anna Chancellor’s character Lix an important part of the dynamic so there was a representation of a woman working in the office who was more age-appropriate. The problem is that with shows like ours we’re essentially having a dialogue about contemporary politics. [Producers] want Bel to be a woman in her thirties because that’s a character that viewers are going to link in with, even if it’s not absolutely accurate of the period.

Is that something Abi has ever discussed with you?

Not really. Given I was cast in it, it was always pretty obvious that there was going to be some complexity around Bel’s age. She’s running an editorial news department in 1957, and when I got this job, I was 28. It doesn’t totally fit. But the sexism exists. She’s not in a dream world either.

People can be incredibly picky about their nostalgia. I saw Abi even answered complaints about the show’s dialogue being too modern at times in season one.

Yeah, and I sort of feel like there are people whose great joy in life is discovering an accident in a TV show and having the opportunity to point it out. Why deny them the great pleasure of saying, “I know for a fact that Put ‘em up wasn’t a phrase until 1975!” Why would we want to take that away from them?

You worked with January Jones and John Slattery on 2004’s Dirty Dancing 2, which was also a period piece set in the late fifties.

Absolutely I remember working with them! They were both amazing actors to work with. When Mad Men came out, I thought it was a strange coincidence that had both been cast in Dirty Dancing 2, which is set in 1958, and then this show set in 1960. Then I got cast in a show in 1957! We’re all very castable for that time period [laughs]. Of course, I’ve been in so many period pieces that getting cast in the twentieth century is like an enormous leap for me. I remember watching the first seasons of Mad Men going, My God, this is really weird. I’ve worked with both those actors and they’re still wearing really similar costumes. I haven’t really run into them since. I rarely get out to the states.

Getting back to Freddie … we find out pretty quickly that he’s been traveling abroad but hasn’t kept in touch even though at the end of last season, it looked like Bel was maybe ready to acknowledge her feelings for him.

Freddie is obviously the man that deep down she really loves. Whether or not they’re meant to be together or whether or not she will allow herself to be with him, that’s the relationship she gets the most out of intellectually and emotionally. The relationship she had with Hector was never going to fulfill her. Having said that, I really like that Abi’s written that Hector and Bel go on to have this really fond, affectionate, successful working relationship having been lovers before. You don’t see very often, people ending a relationship but it sort of going on much as it did before, and that’s interesting.

Freddie and Bel


While you were promoting the show over the summer, you teased that Bel would be very angry and doing a lot of yelling this season. That’s not the case two episodes in —

Yeah, I think they edited those takes out [laughs]. They normally make you do things a number of different ways, and I was quite enjoying being domineering but it doesn’t seem to have made it to the screen. I don’t know why. I thought Bel would appear much more dominant in her job, but I think that probably the directors are wary of having her be too alienating as a character by having her going around yelling at people. I think it’s a very appealing quality but nobody else seems to.

Would you say this season will be darker than last? In the first two episodes, Hector becomes embroiled in a sex scandal this year, and Freddie’s pursues a controversial piece about race and immigration.

There was definitely a conscious effort to concentrate more on domestic rather than international politics. The Suez crisis, as fascinating as that period of history was, that was very much the story of the end of Britain’s empire. This year, it’s about Britain’s internal politics and police corruption and gang land underworld, and it’s all more intertwined in the character’s personal lives. It is darker because of that I’d say.

You’ve said you wanted to be a journalist before you became an actress. Has this job fulfilled any of that earlier ambition?

We all just love walking around an office and pretending to pick up phones and slam down paperwork and pull our glasses on and off in important ways, which is basically what we think journalists do and how they behave. There’s not so many shots of us, you know, filing stories. So this fulfills my desire to be a pretend journalist.


Hector Madden and Randall

ESQUIRE.COM: How does your wife feel about you having sort of cornered the market on dashing adulterous lushes?

DOMINIC WEST: Oh, you are nice to say that. She doesn't care. As long as I'm back with the kids, I can play up my advantages as much as I like. I've known her for twenty years now, and she dumped me on several occasions. I can't surprise her in any way now.

ESQ: Obviously you're great at playing the charming drunk, but I really like that Hector is a little more persecuted this season.

DW: Well, that's what comes with middle age: a sense of persecution. And it certainly comes with four kids. A great sense of persecution when they jump on your head at six o'clock in the morning. It's heartfelt, the persecution, I can tell you.

ESQ: Yes, but this season you're actually being persecuted, and prosecuted, probably, if things play out the way they seem they will.

DW: He starts off at the height of his celebrity and then — I don't know if it's the same in America; I think not as much as it is here — any celebrity is sort of built up to get shut down again, and Hector gets the full force of both of his celebrity and of his fall and subsequent persecution. So it makes total sense, and it's a delight to play, because you get to play the highs and the lows.

ESQ: I always wonder about people who are famous in two countries. Because I would imagine that, in America, people probably run up to you and say, "McNulty!" but then in England, you're both better known and subject to what seem like much crazier paparazzi.

DW: Fortunately, I'm not paparazzi material. I'm totally under the radar. So people in America still — yeah, I still get a bit of love from McNulty, and here I used to get love from McNulty, until I played this serial killer, and now people try to avoid me.
ESQ: Did it affect you to play a serial killer?

DW: Yeah, it certainly does, but I was determined not to let him get to me. I started dreaming about him, and that's when I... Yeah. But then we filmed it quite quickly, in three our four weeks in Manchester, and then I got away and went back to London to my kids and didn't give the bastard another thought.

ESQ: Until you started winning awards for the role.

DW: I played Iago as well, just after, and he's kind of the most evil man in drama. So I had quite the summer of villainy last year, but I became adept at shaking them off.

ESQ: Hector isn't a villain, but he's definitely a toxic person.

DW: Oh, really? Well, I think that's very unfair. He's damaged, he's a war veteran, he's seen the worst of the war. And we look into that in the subsequent episodes. And you get to see what happened to him in the war, and you get to see, you know, the trauma of that. And hopefully you get to see the reasons for his behavior and his zest for celebrity and his newfound status. And, hopefully — well I think definitely there is a sense of redemption after the sixth episode.

ESQ: It's hard to not compare him to McNulty just because there are some superficial similarities with the drinking and the womanizing, and I kind of got the impression that McNulty did what he did because he cared so deeply about things that he needed to dull his pain, and I was under the impression that Hector was doing those things because he really didn't care about anyone but himself. But it's interesting to hear that that is not the case.

DW: No, it's not really. He went through the Second World War, and I think anyone who did that — their life is much more complicated than pure selfishness. And certainly that's where I placed his womanizing and his philandering: the trauma of the war and the release of having faced death. My dad was at university with a lot of guys who were in the Second World War, and he said they partied like crazy. They really knew how to party 'cause they... And it's the case with my nephew who is in Afghanistan at the moment. They have seen death, and they embrace life. But also, with that, comes the trauma and the damage done. As you can tell, I'm rather more sympathetic to Hector.

Hector and Kiki Delane
ESQ: Your real-life wife has a pedigree. Do you bring anything from that into your fictional marriage?

DW: Not really, 'cause Hector's not really posh. Well, he's married into a posh world, but it's not particularly posh. It's more wealth, really. My wife's family is posh, but they have no wealth. It's the other way around.

ESQ: That's more fun, isn't it?

DW: It is, yeah, but it'd be nice to have a bit of dough. But no. I really drew a lot on my dad, in fact. My dad really was a man of the fifties in the way he dressed, and the way he looked, and his sort of old school manners and charm. That's where the similarities stop between him and Hector, but that's where I got an understanding of the manners of the age, which were different than they are now. And I think that they were rather nice. And I hope that one of Hector's redeeming qualities is that he dresses well, and he has a certain chivalry.

ESQ: Last thing: You know how the director of the CIA was having an affair with a journalist?

DW: I couldn't believe Petraeus was fired 'cause he had an affair, and we all thought, God. Dreadful. You know. Who cares? But obviously it's much more complicated than that.

ESQ: Yeah. She was a journalist and apparently had access to classified documents.

DW: 'Cause that's treason, isn't it? I mean, that's criminal, isn't it?

ESQ: One would think. I think in season three of The Hour, your character should have an affair with an upper-tier female spy operative and learn state secrets.

DW: Brilliant.

Marnie Madden tyfyt



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fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
I NEED A DL FOR 2X03.

WHERE IS A DL?

Ugh. I have zero patience when it comes to this show?
ms_mmelissa 28th-Nov-2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
I need a streaming link.

:(

Edited at 2012-11-28 11:38 pm (UTC)
fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:44 pm (UTC)
My internet connection is too slow to invest the time into downloading a huge file like that. By the time it even gets like 25% downloaded, there will probably be a smaller and lower quality file.
zoaster_toaster 29th-Nov-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
I need a streaming link ASAP too.
ms_mmelissa 28th-Nov-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
Is it just me or is Romola's hair looking really weird this season?
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
Yes! I just watched this week's and was definitely thinking this.
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
yeah I thought it looked a little funny this week
gendrys 29th-Nov-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
i think they cut it a little too short and now they're like, "shit, we have no clue how to style this thing"
bellwetherr 29th-Nov-2012 12:48 am (UTC)
A little bit yeah.
devochkazhenya 29th-Nov-2012 12:58 am (UTC)
i feel like its to close to her ears and it looks like an odd hat
ilouboutin 28th-Nov-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
i always see this on BBC but have no idea how to catch up because the episodes dont have names..?
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:41 pm (UTC)
try 1channel or watch-series?
dannyupshaw 28th-Nov-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
it's on iplayer
myblackass 29th-Nov-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
Do you have On Demand? I DVRed the eps but had the same problem figuring out the order but On Demand has them numbered.
fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Also I only watched The Hour for the first time a week and a half ago and Bel/Freddie are destroying me. And Marnie is fab. And I love Lix and Sissy too.

And Hector can go away now.
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:53 pm (UTC)
urgh Hector. Bel and Freddie are the dream team
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:55 pm (UTC)
What are your feelings on Bel/ITV guy? I do love Bel/Freddie but IDK I enjoy Bel's banter with the ITV guy.

I have a horrible feeling I'll end up having some sympathy towards Hector by the end of this series because of what West said in the interview. I don't want to :(
fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
I like ITV guy so far, but like, they are competitors. I don't think that he has bad intentions... but I also don't think that Bel will be able to handle being romantically involved with a rival. He seems nice enough for sure and I do like his banter with Bel, but yeah. I just don't see it lasting as long as they are working for rival networks.

And also... BEL/FREDDIE. WHY CAN'T THOSE TWO IDIOTS JUST GET IT TOGETHER AND BE SINGLE AT THE SAME TIME AND ADMIT THEIR FEELINGS?

I H8 EVERYTHING.
eswnrtm 29th-Nov-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
I love Bel/Freddie but I really like the ITV guy tbh. Especially last week when he brought her chips. And I also think Freddie's wife is really cute.

Bel/Lix slays all though. I literally ship everyone/everyone on this show lol.
misscrystal 29th-Nov-2012 01:14 am (UTC)
I like Bel/ITV guy. Bel and Freddie need to stay friends. Plus his wife is super cute.
eswnrtm 29th-Nov-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
Were you the one asking about it in the previous post? I'm glad you decided to watch it!

Bel and Freddie are giant idiots but I love them. All the women on the show are fantastic. ♥
zoaster_toaster 29th-Nov-2012 01:08 am (UTC)
Bel/Freddie have such great chemistry, but I have a nasty feeling the show's gonna drag out their romantic "will they? won't they?" subplot to the point when they finally do get together we'll all hate it.
hera_bearrra 28th-Nov-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Unlike Mad Men, at least this show doesn't shy away from race and race issues. I only saw a clip from the last episode, though. Will catch up later.
ms_mmelissa 28th-Nov-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
I'm glad they got rid of all the spy stuff from last year. Although this year they seem to be on to mobster!conspiracy which is kind of weird.
fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:47 pm (UTC)
lol. I loved all the spy stuff.

I'm not sure how I feel about the mobster conspiracy stuff this year though. Mostly because I don't really get what is going on. All the middle aged white guys look the same to me, so I'm not really sure who is who and what is happening.
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
yeah, I prefer the issues they are dealing with this season (that feels like a really inappropriate thing to say :/)
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
I think it's finding its feet
stellarlyssa 28th-Nov-2012 11:58 pm (UTC)
That's so great to hear! I haven't started this season yet because I got sort of bogged down by the end of last. Going to have to catch up.
misscrystal 29th-Nov-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
The mob sub-plot is infinitely more interesting the the espionage stuff from last series. Also, I'm so glad Marnie's not taking any more of McNulty's shit.
brownxeyedxdork 29th-Nov-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
agreed
timbershiver 29th-Nov-2012 04:00 pm (UTC)
I'm loving this season sooo much.

And I love Bel soooo much.
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
Marnie Madden ftw! She was so adorable with those children tonight.

I wasn't as focused on the episode as I should have been - I was trying and epically failing at posting something here.
x_butterfly19_x 29th-Nov-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
I <3 Marnie. So glad she's coming into her own now
dannyupshaw and him28th-Nov-2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
ms_mmelissa Re: and him28th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
I love Randall and Lix.
x_butterfly19_x Re: and him28th-Nov-2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
<3
omnishambles Re: and him29th-Nov-2012 12:12 am (UTC)
Oh Malcolm, how I miss thee. ♥
tankmachine 28th-Nov-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
what is this show about
what is it like
is it good
should i watch it
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
a 1950s newsroom, I guess

it is good, and sure - give a go?
ms_mmelissa 28th-Nov-2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
A tv news programme in the late 50s
Sort of like the movie Broadcast News crossed with Tinker Tailer Soldier Spy (at least the first season is)
Yes.
Give it a shot!
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
newsnight 1950 mixed with the ~personal lives of the characters
yes
yes
br_kenmirror 28th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
the synopsis for every season 2 episode was on wiki the last time I checked.

I read it all and spoiled myself :P but it seems like it's been edited now
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:51 pm (UTC)
oop that's an error
fauxkaren 28th-Nov-2012 11:53 pm (UTC)
lol. I read those synopsises when they were up. NO REGRETS.
zoaster_toaster 28th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
Fucking love this show and everyone in it.
flyingpigs_live 28th-Nov-2012 11:54 pm (UTC)
should i start watching this show?
jaimelannister 28th-Nov-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Yes!
x_butterfly19_x 28th-Nov-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
IMO yes! It isn't exactly like Mad Men though, but it is reminiscent. Kinda.
ms_mmelissa 28th-Nov-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Yes, Joanie, you definitely should.
tipsily_be 28th-Nov-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
I've got to start watching this show. I've only heard flawless things about it.
eswnrtm is this a discussion post?28th-Nov-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Marnie chatting away while Hector ate his gross dinner at the beginning of the episode gave me life haha.

Bel and Freddie teasing each other again was nice after all those angsty staring contests.

Lix and Randall have a daughter?!:OOOO I'm not sure how I feel about that but good for Anna Chancellor that Lix is getting some meaty stuff this season.
x_butterfly19_x Re: is this a discussion post?29th-Nov-2012 12:03 am (UTC)
I love Anna chancellor and am really curious to see where they will go with...that. *spoiler tags?*
devochkazhenya Re: is this a discussion post?29th-Nov-2012 01:00 am (UTC)
damn! I knew I shouldn't have opened this! I was thinking that Randall was that guy she mentioned last season with whom she had a friendship that was like Bel/Freddie and realized her feelings to lat e
stellarlyssa 28th-Nov-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Congrats on your face, Romola Garai.
zoaster_toaster 29th-Nov-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
Congrats on you faceeverything, Romola Garai.

Fixed it for ya.
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