5:48 pm - 11/26/2012
Gabriel Aubry has obtained a restraining order against Halle Berry's fiance Olivier Martinez, who busted Gabriel's face during a brutal brawl on Thanksgiving ... and Gabriel's declaration (which includes graphic photos of his injuries) paints a radically different picture of what went down at Halle's on Thursday.
According to Gabriel's declaration, the day before Thanksgiving, Gabriel took Nahla to her school play. Halle and Olivier showed up and Olivier walked up to Gabriel and whispered in his ear in French, "I wish I could beat the s**t out of you right now. You're lucky we're in a school right now. We're going to take Nahla right now and you're not going to follow us."
The next day, Gabriel says he took Nahla to Halle's at around 10 AM. He says in a completely unusual move, Olivier came out of the front door -- usually the nanny was the go-between. Gabriel claims Olivier said, "We need to talk." Gabriel says he walked toward his car to close his door when Olivier jumped off the stairs and knocked Gabriel to the ground and started brutally beating him, screaming that Gabriel cost them $3 million to fight the custody war (Halle's failed move to take Nahla to Paris).
Gabriel says Olivier took his head in his hand and slammed it on the concrete driveway.
According to the declaration, as Olivier assaulted Gabriel he screamed that they were going to move to Paris and Gabriel had better move there too or Olivier would kill him.
Gabriel claims Olivier then said, "We called the cops," and that when they show up, "you're going to tell them that you're the one who attacked me, or I'm going to kill you."
Gabriel alleges in his declaration that Halle lost her bid to get primary custody with the judge consistently siding with Gabriel for a 50/50 arrangement.
Gabriel's lawyer attached photos of his injuries which are brutal.
Sources on Halle's side claim it was Gabriel who flew off the handle and started the fight.
As TMZ first reported, an emergency protective order has already been issued against Gabriel -- requiring him to stay 100 yards away from Halle, Olivier, and Nahla. We're told Halle's lawyers will go to court this week in an attempt to have the order extended.
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GABRIEL AUBRY Halle Berry's Fiance THREATENED TO KILL ME!
Gabriel Aubry has obtained a restraining order against Halle Berry's fiance Olivier Martinez, who busted Gabriel's face during a brutal brawl on Thanksgiving ... and Gabriel's declaration (which includes graphic photos of his injuries) paints a radically different picture of what went down at Halle's on Thursday.
According to Gabriel's declaration, the day before Thanksgiving, Gabriel took Nahla to her school play. Halle and Olivier showed up and Olivier walked up to Gabriel and whispered in his ear in French, "I wish I could beat the s**t out of you right now. You're lucky we're in a school right now. We're going to take Nahla right now and you're not going to follow us."
The next day, Gabriel says he took Nahla to Halle's at around 10 AM. He says in a completely unusual move, Olivier came out of the front door -- usually the nanny was the go-between. Gabriel claims Olivier said, "We need to talk." Gabriel says he walked toward his car to close his door when Olivier jumped off the stairs and knocked Gabriel to the ground and started brutally beating him, screaming that Gabriel cost them $3 million to fight the custody war (Halle's failed move to take Nahla to Paris).
Gabriel says Olivier took his head in his hand and slammed it on the concrete driveway.
According to the declaration, as Olivier assaulted Gabriel he screamed that they were going to move to Paris and Gabriel had better move there too or Olivier would kill him.
Gabriel claims Olivier then said, "We called the cops," and that when they show up, "you're going to tell them that you're the one who attacked me, or I'm going to kill you."
Gabriel alleges in his declaration that Halle lost her bid to get primary custody with the judge consistently siding with Gabriel for a 50/50 arrangement.
Gabriel's lawyer attached photos of his injuries which are brutal.
Sources on Halle's side claim it was Gabriel who flew off the handle and started the fight.
As TMZ first reported, an emergency protective order has already been issued against Gabriel -- requiring him to stay 100 yards away from Halle, Olivier, and Nahla. We're told Halle's lawyers will go to court this week in an attempt to have the order extended.
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(If you're itnerested, only because I think that user should be put on blast, not 'cause I want sympapthy (other thing is: as if I want attention - don't people get how it works? you want to retreat into yourself forever, not shout it from the rooftops): http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/73
Where did the OP make that claim? It seems to me that the OP had an experience and sees some parallels. Now, I think the OP's experience is obviously anecdotal, but I don't see where they wrote that Halle was supposed to have the same experiences. Most people here have never met anybody ever mentioned on ONTD, but one of the points of this place is to have opinions about people we aren't going to meet. Getting upset about that makes no sense.
That said, people do sometimes on some level see things through a prism of their own experiences. It is possible to say that a personal story is anecdotal and isn't the always the fairest way to make a particular judgement without being vile and unnecessary.
That's pure self-centered arrogance which I find quite repulsive, thank you very much.
You know what I find repulsive? You. You could have pointed out the flaws you saw in the OP's argument, but instead you chose a an uncalled for idgaf attitude after they talked about their personal story. You seem to take issue with people calling Halle crazy and at the same time act like an absolute ass to someone who does indeed have a mental illness.
Edited at 2012-11-27 01:49 am (UTC)
Also, I honestly dgaf about your opinion about me either. Who are you? Who is she? (And who am I, for that matter?) Just some random people out of the tens of thousands of ONTD members. Totally and utterly irrelevant to each other. That's not being an ass, that's just being honest. *shrug*
If you dgaf that is your business and problem. I think we've established that we're a bunch of random people out of thousands of members, but that wasn't what makes you an ass. It is possible to think of yourself as honest and still be a tactless jerk. You seem to have a problem with Halle being called crazy, and then proceeded to respond to someone's story about mental illness in an insensitive manner. Your response was completely disproportionate to the OP's comments.
And just because I am against ableist remarks against mentally ill people doesn't mean I'm ready to cut anyone slack about their own arrogant, disrespectful selfishness because they happen to be mentally ill as well. Those are two very different things as far as I am concerned so I see no contradiction in my words either.
Not sure where I said you should cut someone slack. It is possible to say a lot of these things without completely disregarding what they had to say about their own difficult experiences. Instead you proceeded to proclaim how you didn't give a fuck which was useless and disproportionate to the OP's comments. As for you being against ableist language, why make a quip about the OP needing to get a paper bag? How is that remotely helpful?
And their difficult experiences only apply to them. They don't apply to other people, even if their experiences are similar. I don't disregard her personal experiences as long as she doesn't use them to pass judgement on others she does not know at all, but I definitely disregard them when she does. As for the paper bag, that was a reference to her vomiting in her mouth. I don't see how suggesting someone get a paper bag in case they need to barf is unhelpful.
Whatever, I am done explaining myself to a third party.
Edited at 2012-11-27 02:39 am (UTC)
Anyway, no one was forcing you to explain yourself to anyone.