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3:11 pm - 11/26/2012

Justin Bieber on Oprah's Next Chapter (full in parts)









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kanyesus 26th-Nov-2012 09:52 pm (UTC)
i'm not talking about their long-lasting influence though. i'm talking about the initial fan mania surrounding them which was/is admittedly pretty huge. that's all i see b/w them that is comparable. they're very different in almost every other way.
ediesedgwick 26th-Nov-2012 09:53 pm (UTC)
Beatles had pretty wide appeal, beiber does not. If I HAD to make a comparison, I'd say its more like the monkees (tho tbh I'd say their long-term fan loyalty is more than justin can hope for)


(sorry about the edits)

Edited at 2012-11-26 09:56 pm (UTC)
caulifloral 26th-Nov-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
Uhh no tbh. I wrote my BA history thesis on The Beatles and their PR/relationship w/ the media and can definitively contradict you on this one.

The Beatles did NOT have wide appeal during the ~Mania/invasion. They built their empire on the backs of tween girls for those first years and were only able to transition to a slightly mellower brand of fame and more broad appeal later on (and consequently they really lost their tween appeal as they matured and became less musically accessible).

Learn some pop history - The Monkees were put together to star in a TV show and their fame/relevance was mostly in connection to the show and its merchandising. They lasted in the mainstream a short time after it went off the air, but really it was a fame arc that'd be hugely familiar to anyone who's followed the Disney/HWR franchises over the past decade. I'm not sure what you'd even begin to base your Bieber/Monkees comparison on.
ediesedgwick 26th-Nov-2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
What I'm getting from this is that you're in your 20s and still a beiber fan, and I feel embarrassed for you.

Beiber is basically the equivalent of a disney star.
caulifloral 26th-Nov-2012 11:17 pm (UTC)
ikr? So embarrassing that an adult would be interested in pop music and pop music marketing/culture, not like we're in a community expressly dedicated to that kind of thing rn or anything!

You have no idea what you're talking about, and it's kind of hilarious how you attempt to derail with personal attacks anytime your ignorance is pointed out. I don't even need to drag you, you do all the work for me.

Beiber is basically the equivalent of a disney star.
lol I'd ask why you would argue this, but you've already demonstrated your lack of knowledge or insight on this topic.
ediesedgwick 26th-Nov-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
Saying I'm embarrassed for you is not a personal attack. Being obsessed with beiber in your 20s is sad.
caulifloral 26th-Nov-2012 11:28 pm (UTC)
lol

ellenelles 26th-Nov-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
lol this weak-ass response
rosebuddear 27th-Nov-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
There are lots of older Bieber fans, even senior citizens.

I'm an older fan, too. Though, I was not interested until he (and his music) matured.

How is listening to Bieber any worse than listening to Gaga, Kesha, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Bruno Mars, or anyone else? People should be able to listen to or stan anyone they want without feeling embarrassed.

It's ageism to say once you hit a certain age you can't listen to or watch certain things. Why should there be age limits?
cathaea 27th-Nov-2012 03:24 am (UTC)
Your responses to this are legitimately silly. I'm glad you care enough about what caulifloral listens to be embarrassed for them.
maitressefleche 27th-Nov-2012 09:17 am (UTC)
aren't you in every post expressing your hate for him? i think you're the sad one
muted_hitokiri 27th-Nov-2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
Sorry but this has to be the lamest response I've seen on ONTD, and that's saying something.
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