ONTD

11:34 am - 11/26/2012

Basically, Pop Is Shit Right Now.

Last week, Radio 1′s Head of Music George Ergatoudis noted that guitar music would come back sooner rather than later. He didn’t mean Ed Sheeran-type stuff with acoustic guitars and so on. He meant guitars that plug into things. He was responding to a comment by Kiss FM’s Programme Director Andy Roberts, who’d said that “we’re due guitars [again] but I think they’ll be a fusion of something we [radio stations] will all be able to play.” Ergatoudis was less ambiguous: “Guitar music is definitely on the way back.”

Most people in radio and TV have never made a secret of the fact that they would happily play Foo Fighters, Muse and U2 on a loop if they could get away with it. Most of the music industry and supporting media is populated by the blokiest blokes with the blokiest tastes, who only grudgingly produce or entertain the existence of pop music because they need to tick boxes and make what they perceive to be easy cash. No wonder so much pop is so joyless.

With guitar music out of the spotlight, times have been tough for these people. The commercial viability of dubstep, and some of the genres on its orbit, have proved useful as a stopgap. Any port in a storm and all that. It’s been able to emulate the aggressive boysy primal aspect of the louder guitar music at a point when guitar music has been out of fashion, and it’s been cool, which keeps the cultural gatekeepers happy. But one can’t help feeling that people like Chase & Status and Nero and DJ Fresh and Example have all been used by Radio 1; musical fuckbuddies while radio programmers wait for their true love to return.

Well now they have waited long enough. It seems to us that Ergatoudis’ statement is not some sort of mysterious prediction based on a slowly shifting musical landscape, but a declaration that he will make it happen whether people are ready or not. Radio 1 will make guitar music come back.

Some of it will probably be pretty good – it will need to be to force guitars back into the mainstream – but most will be derivative and tedious, as will be the people who make it. Whenever pop comes back it sounds different, because pop always pulls in the sounds – however subtly – of whatever else is happening in the more interesting areas of underground music or changing technology. (And then the underground sounds stop being underground, and cool people move on to a new sound, which is then absorbed into the next wave pop and the whole thing starts again, and so on.) So pop excites because it changes, but when guitar music comes back – whether it’s by Oasis, or The Strokes, or whatever – it does so by not changing. It succeeds by sounding almost exactly like something that’s happened before. We wonder which past era of guitar music will be pillaged for the next ‘rock revolution’? A sort of punky, grungy sort of thing maybe? You could see it making sense to people who’ve been enjoying Skrillex, perhaps. One has to feel a bit sorry for metal, a genre that continues to thrive while being roundly ignored by the mainstream media.

Look we don’t really care what it sounds like. We don’t want to listen to this music. So why do we want guitar music back?

Well, not because it’s going to make things easier for any of us. Whatever it sounds like and whoever the stars are, the next wave of guitar music will force pop out of the spotlight. The big stars will continue to do well – it’s not as if the next Katy Perry album is going to flop – and radio will still grudgingly play the big chart hits. But it will be harder for new artists to get off the ground, and it will be harder for fairly established pop acts to get support for their next album. It will probably end the careers of people like Pixie Lott.

And maybe it needs to. Maybe most pop needs to be burnt to the ground.

Listen to this – a new song by Pitbull and The Wanted. It’s on Pitbull’s new album.



Or listen to Britney and Will.i.am’s current effort ‘Scream And Shout’.



We don’t think those clips are official so they might have been pulled from YouTube by the time you see this. In case they’re missing, what those two songs represent is pop music writhing around in its own shit. Who could listen to those songs by supposedly a-list artists and possibly argue that pop deserves to remain the music world’s dominant genre?

Pop needs a kick up the arse.

Pop needs to try harder.

Pop need to be scared for its future.

Pop needs to be forced into a corner.

And then pop needs to come out fighting.

Obviously it’s up for debate whether a shift in focus in the UK will have a global impact, but there must be George Ergatoudis-type people all over the world. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. But it’s for the best.

We know this is going to be difficult for all of us, in the short term. Probably for the next three or four years. We will have to accept The X Factor going even further in the direction of Ed Sheeran-esque singing/songwriting authentipop contestants like Arthur ‘James Arthur’ James. We know it will mean some of our favourite artists – people like Marina & The Diamonds and Hurts – might struggle with their next albums, simply because Radio 1 will be focusing on guitar music and may not support them. They might even get dropped or, worse, start to incorporate guitars into their music in a bid to stay ‘relevant’. In the chart climate that is just around the corner, Amelia Lily will have had even less radio support than she got with her first single. Bands like, say, Stooshe, will never get signed. Maybe they shouldn’t have been signed in the first place? Maybe this is the point. The really sad thing is that there are loads of exciting, brilliant pop acts who will never even exist because the perception will be that nobody will be interested. Really, it just means radio and TV and the press won’t be interested. While we wait for pop to rebuild itself there will be plenty of collateral damage. But we will just have to accept this. APOLS.

The good news? Well, firstly, the last time this happened – for a five-year period in the early-to-late-2000s when pop was pretty much Girls Aloud, Sugababes and a load of failed boybands – the world was a very different place, with music finding listeners (and listeners finding music) in a very different way. In 2013 it might be possible for new pop music to find an appropriate audience without the thumbs up from the bigger media outlets. And in the world of radio, Capital seems more powerful now than it was back then, and we can’t imagine Capital being quite as keen as the BBC to completely ditch pop. So perhaps things won’t get quite as bad as they did a decade ago. And secondly, when the guitar music thing is all over, those popstars who survive, and those who barge guitar music out of the way and push pop back to the top of the agenda through sheer force of their own amazingness, will reign supreme. Pop will be bigger and better than ever before.

Just think of it as having builders in. A long stretch of hellish awfulness with men you don’t know making a lot of noise as they destroy everything you once held dear. But then, when it’s all over, you’re all set up to have a massive party.

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This is v accurate. Not bolding because if you're interested, you'll read it.
dirkismyhomeboy 26th-Nov-2012 12:43 am (UTC)
Pop needs some boy bands that dance. BSB needs to hurry with their comeback.
phillymademe 26th-Nov-2012 12:44 am (UTC)
yass ia about BSB Dirk.
lovelyeli 26th-Nov-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
i was never a bsb fan but i wouldn't mind a boy band that actually had some stage presence instead of just standing around.
katiefitch 26th-Nov-2012 12:48 am (UTC)
JLS dances but they flopped outside of the UK
grande_latte 26th-Nov-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
theyre timing was wrong and right now theyre songs just suck.

jukebox was basically 3 good songs and the rest were filler shit
bohhead 26th-Nov-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
i watched some of their acoustic performances n they're just meh tbh..
chimbleysweep 26th-Nov-2012 12:48 am (UTC)
ikr I need my boybands to have full on choreography and high production values. And songs that are interesting. Like Everybody.
runandtelldat 26th-Nov-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
This. I'm a NSYNC stan, and I can't with these boybands that don't dance.
candycheeks 26th-Nov-2012 12:50 am (UTC)
there are current boybands that dance but no one cares about them
theavenue 26th-Nov-2012 12:53 am (UTC)
Yep, I saw One Direction on TV performing for the first time recently and it was like ... really? I don't get how a whole concert of them just standing there not dancing would even be interesting
vanishingbee 26th-Nov-2012 12:54 am (UTC)
srsly what is even the point of a boyband if they can't dance



move over 1D imo

Edited at 2012-11-26 12:56 am (UTC)
druggybridge 26th-Nov-2012 01:00 am (UTC)
I thought boy bands died out after the late 90's b/c they had nothing else to offer other than physical appeal.
hoodoo 26th-Nov-2012 01:06 am (UTC)
not exactly bsb (i love them but...yeah theyre past their prime ns2s) but damn we are in dire need of good boy bands.
jdgrl47 26th-Nov-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
This. I might sound like an old curmudgeon, but I grew up in prime BSB and N*Sync era. The one time I watched One Direction perform, they were literally just standing there. No moves, little interaction with the audience, nothin'. Like. C'mon.
renata_mcm the reason I turned to kpop26th-Nov-2012 01:21 am (UTC)
iamtheliquorr 26th-Nov-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
+1

I want boy bands with jams that I can dance to like bsb/nsync back in the day. nhf this disneyfied pop-rock shit

until then i shall have to satisfy my urges with k-pop/j-pop
ceecile 26th-Nov-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
May I introduce you to the Gods of Kpop then. (Really their names -DBSK/TVXQ/Tohoshinki- literaly means "Rising Gods of the East")

*Ok I don't know why it won't embed but here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02q_EG0W-TE

Edited at 2012-11-26 01:30 am (UTC)
riookierin 26th-Nov-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
YASS.
judgmental 26th-Nov-2012 01:42 am (UTC)
that is so 90's tho
ashiva 26th-Nov-2012 04:54 am (UTC)
You need to get into kpop if you want dancing boy bands,
manubibi 26th-Nov-2012 11:43 am (UTC)
I will always love BSB but not looking forward to another boyband wave now especially if it's a comeback. Let's move on from boybands for a while and let's have something different PLS
harleenfrances 26th-Nov-2012 08:27 pm (UTC)
i love 1d and the wanted despite their nonexistent choreo skills, but i too yearn for a sharp dancing boyband to make it big again. i just think that tweens/teens now are over that and can't appreciate it.

we listen to 90's radio at work and i bust out the dances every single time nsync or bsb plays and my manager loves it lol.
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