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11:15 pm - 11/24/2012

Serial Killer, Not OJ, Murdered Nicole Brown Simpson, New Documentary Claims

The Juice' Innocent? New theory surfaces in Simpson-Goldman slayings



The head of the network offering a new theory about who killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman still believes that O.J. did it.

That may be the most damning thing we can say about “My Brother the Serial Killer,” which airs Wednesday on Investigation Discovery. It suggests that Glen Rogers, a part-time painter, killed Simpson’s ex-wife and her friend while trying to retrieve a pair of diamond earrings at the NFL star’s behest.

“You may have to kill the bitch,” Simpson told Rogers, according to a profiler quoted on the show.

That’s double hearsay - an alleged quote of an alleged quote - and would likely be considered too unreliable to be admitted in a courtroom. But that sort of so-called evidence abounds in “My Brother the Serial Killer.”

The ID Films documentary offers an occasionally intriguing new take on one of our most famous unsolved mysteries. But by failing to acknowledge and address the weaknesses in its supposed evidence, it comes up as short as that glove did on Simpson’s hand.

The documentary already has sparked fury from Goldman’s relatives for suggesting that Simpson wasn’t the real killer. The football star, now serving time for robbery, was acquitted of the murders but found liable for the deaths in a civil trial and ordered to pay millions of dollars.

ID President Henry Schleiff defends “My Brother the Serial Killer” by saying it isn’t out to prove that Rogers committed the killings. Rather, the idea is to give viewers new facts and let them make up their own minds.

Personally, Schleiff told TheWrap, he still thinks Simpson is probably guilty.

“I think that he is still the most likely or beyond the most likely suspect,” Schleiff said. “But I don’t know with all certainty. I don’t think you can completely rule this guy out... He has one horrible skill, and that is his ability to kill people.”

Schleiff said the documentary doesn’t point out inaccuracies or inconsistencies in the evidence against Rogers because ID viewers are savvy enough to root them out on their own.

“We have a really smart audience, and I don’t think they need to be told what the warnings are or all the caveats,” he said.

Rogers, convicted of one murder in Florida and another in California, is awaiting execution in the Sunshine State. Though the show focuses on his brother and sister coming to the realization that Rogers was a multiple murderer, the possible Simpson connection “was frankly a key part of the interest in the documentary,” Schleiff said.

Much of the information linking Rogers to the killings comes from his brother, Clay, who narrates the film. He has the type of background that would invite jurors’ skepticism: He has admitted to robbing people with his brother decades ago, served jail time and says during the documentary that he and his brother once chanted to raise demons.

He describes the feeling of one clawing him from the inside out.

But perhaps his biggest problem is his trouble with specifics, including about how his brother supposedly knew Nicole Brown Simpson. Glen Rogers was working as a painter in Los Angeles in the months before the murders, and the documentary surmises, without evidence, that he might have done work on her home.

According to Clay Rogers, his brother reported “partying” with O.J.’s ex, and he planned on “takin’ her down” because she was well-off financially.

“Glen told me that he had set up Faye Redmond and Nicole Simpson, and they met him at a Van Nuys nightclub,” he says on camera. “He set ’em up to rob ’em. Whether or not he was gonna kill ’em or not I don’t know. He expected just the two girls to be there. But I guess that Ron Goldman showed up.”

That statement may set off alarms for people who followed the 1994 criminal trial. First, Clay Rogers is thinking of Faye Resnick - not Redmond. She was the admitted drug abuser who was living with Brown Simpson when the latter was killed. Simpson’s lead attorney, Johnny Cochran, suggested during the trial that Brown Simpson and Goldman may have been murdered by drug dealers trying to collect a debt from Resnick.

It’s unclear from Clay Rogers’ statement what happened to his brothers’ alleged plan to rob Resnick and Brown Simpson at a nightclub, or why Goldman supposedly appeared as well.

Whatever the case, he doesn’t seem to be describing the night of the killings: As exhaustively explained during the trial, Goldman was a waiter and friend of Brown Simpson’s who was murdered outside her home as he visited her to return a pair of eyeglasses left at his restaurant.

The documentary addresses none of these points of confusion. But Schleiff acknowledged Clay Rogers might not be a completely reliable narrator.

“I don’t think the memory or being able to identify, years later, specific names or dates, happens to be the strength of anybody, particularly these guys,” he said of the Rogers siblings. Still, he believes, they have no motive to lie.

The Goldman family begs to disagree. An attorney for Ron’s father, Fred Goldman, noted that most high-profile slayings yield false confessions from people seeking the spotlight.

“You can pack the Los Angeles Coliseum with 100,000 Glen Rogerses all confessing to the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman, and nothing would change the fact that O.J. Simpson murdered these two people in cold blood,” said the attorney, David J. Cook.

But Clay Rogers’ believability isn’t the biggest obstacle to the documentary’s. The film repeatedly airs claims from Glen Rogers’ siblings that he confessed to more than 70 killings.

It fails to note, however, that he recanted those statements in 1995, which might call into question his other supposed admissions as well.

They include those he allegedly made to Anthony Meoli, a criminal profiler who exchanged letters with Glen Rogers and met with him. Meoli said that Rogers told him from death row that he had killed Brown Simpson and Goldman while trying to retrieve the $20,000 earrings because Simpson wanted them back after giving them to his ex-wife.

Rogers also showed him a painting, Meoli said, of headstones with the names “Ron” and “Nicole” and drew the supposed murder weapon.

Meoli said Rogers also described how he carried out the killings in brutal detail and mailed his mother an angel pin he said he had stolen from Brown Simpson, who collected angel memorabilia.

Simpson went to the crime scene after the killings to check out Rogers’ work, Meoli said. As a result, his shoeprints were found there, along with something that may have been another shoeprint. That possible shoeprint belonged to Rogers, the documentary suggests.

The documentary doesn’t explain how Rogers allegedly knew O.J. Simpson or why Simpson would trust him enough to involve him.

The filmmakers didn’t interview Rogers - understandable since he is on death row. But his pending execution gives him an obvious motive to try to delay it by any means possible, perhaps by confessing to crimes he didn’t commit. The documentary fails to raise this possibility.

Few know the details of the case better than the Goldman family, who say they weren’t told about the documentary until this week. They took issue with the decision to air it Wednesday.

“This is another attempt to capitalize on the most famous crime in our history, during what is an otherwise slow news week,” said Goldman’s sister, Kim.

The reason for the slow news week is Thanksgiving, a day the victims’ families will now be forced to spend thinking about the murders.

Source

Mods - why don't we have a 'celebrity crime/criminals' tag?

Also this is a SERIAL KILLER post.
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laq 25th-Nov-2012 06:12 am (UTC)
lol remember OJ wrote a book called "If I Did It..."
violue 25th-Nov-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
god that was sickening
browneyedguuurl 25th-Nov-2012 07:11 am (UTC)
mte
nobodynomore 25th-Nov-2012 07:55 am (UTC)
I downloaded it (pirated) & read it...
starzangelus 25th-Nov-2012 09:53 am (UTC)
laetifico 25th-Nov-2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
I was in 4th grade when it happened. My teacher actually cried in front of the class.

Oop, this was meant to be a reply to the thread down below, haha.

Edited at 2012-11-25 04:18 pm (UTC)
theantipoet 25th-Nov-2012 06:13 am (UTC)
I find it so sad that I remember exactly where I was when the verdict came down.

(freshman year of high school, and my biology teacher put it on the radio to listen to... he was the worst teacher ever, all we did in that class was sit around bullshitting)

Edited at 2012-11-25 06:14 am (UTC)
thesilverymoon 25th-Nov-2012 06:15 am (UTC)
Oh man, I remember too. I was playing outside after school and my mom yelled it out the front door. I was only 7 so I hadn't totally understood the case, but I remember trying to be shocked since everyone around me was.
yurasama_love 25th-Nov-2012 06:54 am (UTC)
I was about that age too and I was cackling because everyone though he'd be found guilty and I said not guilty to be different. I had no idea what the case was.
laq 25th-Nov-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
I don't know what was doing because I was too young to understand what happened with whole thing, and my parents made a big effort to shelter me from it I think. =/ Just remember watching part of this Dateline-type show where there was this horrible computer animation of what happened with the murder weapon.
lovealwaysliana 25th-Nov-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
I was in 6th grade and it was on the TV in the student lounge. I went to a weird school
chikntetrazzini 25th-Nov-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
I was in 5th grade, in the cafeteria eating lunch. All the black kids cheered and all the white kids booed.
muzicnem 25th-Nov-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
I was in like 4th or 5th grade but was familiar with the case and learned about the verdict at recess. I remember being surprised at the verdict then (though not so much now).
carbons 25th-Nov-2012 06:44 am (UTC)
haha I was only 4
blondebeaker 25th-Nov-2012 06:49 am (UTC)
Grade 10, coming out of English class and you could hear everyone should to each other "Not Guilty!"
saintsmarching 25th-Nov-2012 06:50 am (UTC)
I don't remember the verdict but I remember my dad watching the trial a lot when I'd get home from school.
losviluppo 25th-Nov-2012 06:57 am (UTC)
I was 5 when this was happening. iir much. My mom broke her toe/nail off and got some blood on the floor and I remember my dad putting post-it notes next to the blood with "Exibit A" and "Exibit B."
thetxbelle 25th-Nov-2012 07:44 am (UTC)
I think I was in 10th grade, they announced the verdict over our school intercom and people proceeded to freak the fuck out except in our class...our teacher threatened to fail us if we reacted and tbh I don't blame him because it caused a bunch of fights and bullshit
brucelynn 25th-Nov-2012 10:13 am (UTC)
I was still in elementary school lol
hoot 25th-Nov-2012 01:39 pm (UTC)
lol, my mom let me stay home sick from school that day so I could watch it on TV.
ohbother_piglet 25th-Nov-2012 03:19 pm (UTC)
I was in 1st grade and our teacher wanted us to write an opinion journal entry on it. I said that I had a hard time deciding since my mom worked for Hertz and OJ used to be their spokesperson. It was just another example of my wanting to throw out that I knew extra information, even though it's stupid extra information.
barilace 25th-Nov-2012 03:25 pm (UTC)
what year was this? 1995...right? If so, I was 9. I don't even remember my family being that much into watching the trial....except my mom was pissed they kept airing it instead of the young and the restless. lol.
dynamitered 25th-Nov-2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
My 4th grade teacher played it on the radio in class. Then, made us all cheer when he was acquitted. lol.
therealycats 25th-Nov-2012 04:17 pm (UTC)
I was in seventh grade, and we had been watching coverage of the trial nonstop in homeroom. I don't remember if I was actually in class when I heard about the verdict though.
beatlesluv 25th-Nov-2012 04:28 pm (UTC)
what year was it again?
danya 25th-Nov-2012 04:45 pm (UTC)
I was in history. Also a freshman in HS. Lol. We watched the verdict on tv and this guy in my class FLIPPED OUT. He was like "This is fucking bullshit OMG" and slammed the desk lol.
massielita 25th-Nov-2012 07:17 pm (UTC)
I was in 10th grade and we had watched the trial in our journalism class (we'd actually flip the channel to Days of Our Lives and watch that tbh). They said the verdict over the intercom and we could hear people yelling in other classes and rushing out to celebrate. At that point school was basically over because mostly all students walked out of class. It was chaos.
usagi_moon 25th-Nov-2012 07:51 pm (UTC)
I was a freshman in High School too.

Teacher put it on tv, most of the kids in class thought he didn't do it. It was pretty sad.

I Honestly felt he did it, but I was like "ugh he's not guilty, why? oh he's famous"

mistyraven 25th-Nov-2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
I was 4 and don't remember anything about this case tbh.
ohmylove 25th-Nov-2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
I was in 3rd grade and my teacher passed out when she heard the verdict (she was so happy they found him not guilty). Literally passed out, like 3 boys had to help her get up off the ground when she woke up. LOL
thesilverymoon 25th-Nov-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
Whenever I get in trouble, I try to get out of it by using the line "If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!"
It never works.
manaconda 25th-Nov-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
but did you prove it by trying on some gloves

preferably over another glove

works like a charm tbh
thesilverymoon 25th-Nov-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
When I have gloves handy, yes.
The pretend struggle is half the fun.
bent_ley 25th-Nov-2012 03:02 pm (UTC)
lolololol
labellavitaaa 25th-Nov-2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
Lmao!
markama 25th-Nov-2012 06:14 am (UTC)
theories...
violue 25th-Nov-2012 06:16 am (UTC)
uh huh
crystalzelda 25th-Nov-2012 06:17 am (UTC)
God, fresh from Tumblr and some people's weird ass obsessions with serial killers

Interested in crime and serial killings? Okay, that's fine, morbid curiosity we get it

Being completely fixated on serial killers and woobifying them and thinking they're so misunderstood all the while poring over every single aspect of the murders and the gore and being ~totally into it~? Naw, son.
instantgold 25th-Nov-2012 06:25 am (UTC)
how could you be in love with someone like that? like. what. i just don't get it
crystalzelda 25th-Nov-2012 06:29 am (UTC)
I don't even knoowwwww

The ppl all over Holmes, the guy who shot up the Aurora theater, call themselves Holmies and spend all day worrying about him and being all like WE SUPPORT U, UR SO MISUNDERSTOOD HE NEEDS HELP <3 while absolutely going nuts over any kind of info about the killings and loving all the mugshots released and whatnot. What the what.
owtfx 25th-Nov-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
i watched this ed gein documentary few hours ago and it's MYSTIFYING how this man's grave is getting flowers and love letters??
saintsmarching 25th-Nov-2012 06:45 am (UTC)
I think some women just take the need to fix a mess to a whole different level, tbh.
chantonii 25th-Nov-2012 08:36 am (UTC)
Yep, IA.

I'll watch documentaries on crime and killers, and then get caught on Wikipedia, reading all the different links about different killers.

And then I feel creepy but realise I'm totally normal compared to the serial killer stans. Nah uh, that shit is gross.
bluekrinkle 25th-Nov-2012 08:53 am (UTC)
I'm very interested in serial killers and crime, but not the notion that they're misunderstood. (Erp, watching a documentary on Donald Gaskins right now, coincidentally)

The people who hero worship them who make me feel sick. I don't think they realize that they would be victims to these people, given the "right" circumstances.
Humans are strange creatures.
ashtraysoul 25th-Nov-2012 02:03 pm (UTC)
I knew that a lot of people got these, for the lack of a better word, fan bases, but this

Rapist Josef Fritzl, who imprisoned his daughter in a basement for 24 years, received hundreds of love letters from women following his arrest.

is just the worst omg why are people so horrible
pluralization 25th-Nov-2012 08:00 pm (UTC)
I'm obsessed with serial killers, but mostly reading about them/reading case files etc.
arielcharming 25th-Nov-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
my last night of freedom..it's 1am on Saturday night. tomorrow night is sunday, so I gotta pull my life back together aka do laundry, shower go to bed early.

should I got to bed or get cozy in this post?
saintssin 25th-Nov-2012 06:44 am (UTC)
You're going to jail?
arielcharming 25th-Nov-2012 06:49 am (UTC)
Yeah..life sentence. :(

Photobucket

lol jk. I just mean my 4 day weekend is coming to end, back to work Monday.

beokitty 25th-Nov-2012 07:51 am (UTC)
Get cozy!
bradentastic 25th-Nov-2012 07:59 am (UTC)
i feel the exact same way *cries*
isntdaveone 25th-Nov-2012 06:19 am (UTC)
cickiz 25th-Nov-2012 06:21 am (UTC)
when E! used to do their E! True Hollywood Stories or some show like that about real crimes they had one about OJ. It had the FUNNIEST 90s computer graphic showing how OJ did it. I felt soooo guilty for laughing (back then I had a heart).
bostongirl2003 25th-Nov-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
I remember when MadTV spoofed it and they kept having OJ run into an air conditioner that was hanging out a window.
marmar627 25th-Nov-2012 09:31 am (UTC)
I felt soooo guilty for laughing (back then I had a heart).

lol ilu
mikeblitzz 25th-Nov-2012 06:22 am (UTC)
we don't have a 'celebrity crime/criminals' tag because we already have a lindsay lohan tag
brucelynn 25th-Nov-2012 10:14 am (UTC)
Oh shit lol
bralesss 25th-Nov-2012 03:26 pm (UTC)
LOL
elvenqueen86 25th-Nov-2012 06:27 am (UTC)
I've been watching a ridiculous amount of Investigation Discovery lately. Deadly Women is like my favorite show (of that kind) ever.
fwee_prower 25th-Nov-2012 06:31 am (UTC)
Are you me? I'm watching ID right now.

Deadly Women is flawless and Candice is hilarious with her one liners.
elvenqueen86 25th-Nov-2012 06:43 am (UTC)
Yes, I love her! I'm convinced her hair is a wig though and that bothers me for some reason.
dancehalldays 25th-Nov-2012 11:12 am (UTC)
My fiance thinks she's too judgmental but I love her quips. I have to take breaks from watching ID though because it makes me paranoid esp when my fiance was out of town for a few days. I was scared to go to sleep at night, I had to have a nightlight on, oh gosh I'm lame.
pluralization 25th-Nov-2012 08:02 pm (UTC)
i love ID.
djtino224 25th-Nov-2012 06:31 am (UTC)
Investigation Discovery is my go to channel. I watch way too much of it. lol
instantgold 25th-Nov-2012 06:38 am (UTC)
lmao oh god i got into that channel a few months ago and would always watch it after midnight. i had to stop though cause i got paranoid
tigirah 25th-Nov-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
I read "Dead Women" and thought JFC they actually gave a show that title?!


lol
saintssin 25th-Nov-2012 06:45 am (UTC)
ID is fucking awesome

duckyduck92 25th-Nov-2012 06:46 am (UTC)
omg I watch that on netflix all the time.
hemsworth 25th-Nov-2012 06:46 am (UTC)
i watch a LOT of HLN mysteries even if they repeat some of the episodes. i just love that kind of stuff
saltireflower 25th-Nov-2012 06:53 am (UTC)
I watch a lot of crime shows, but my faves are the cold case ones. I just love seeing people who thought they got away with it end up in prison.
browneyedguuurl 25th-Nov-2012 07:19 am (UTC)
I loooove Snapped tbh.
lovebats 25th-Nov-2012 07:43 am (UTC)
disappeared is my guilty pleasure despite it being terrifying
beokitty 25th-Nov-2012 07:46 am (UTC)
ikr? Me too, all thanksgiving weekend! The misogyny on it though... smh. Can't stand Candace Delong either.
copasetic 25th-Nov-2012 10:15 am (UTC)
This is the only reason I miss having digital cable tbh. :(
ohkimosabe 25th-Nov-2012 01:32 pm (UTC)
I'm obsessed with Snapped.
_xemptyhanded 25th-Nov-2012 01:56 pm (UTC)
I love ID and Deadly Women. I watch that stuff all the time.
danya 25th-Nov-2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
ID is my channel. I refused to lose it when Comcast tried to take it away. We decided to change providers so I could keep it lol.
ladywilde80 25th-Nov-2012 05:18 pm (UTC)
Same here lol. I watch pretty much nothing else but Investigation Discovery.
fabuleuxx 25th-Nov-2012 05:30 pm (UTC)
I can't get enough of ID. It's my default channel.
shoppingcart fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:28 am (UTC)
after these posts i always spend hours reading wiki pages on unsolved murders

this one always gets me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_Aardsma
chikntetrazzini Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
Unsolved shit gets me so stressed. I hate reading about or watching television shows on that shit. I LIKE ANSWERS, GODDAMMIT.
shoppingcart Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
same here but i find it so interesting how some of them are still unsolved after this long..

also depressing though because the longer ago the crime, the more likely the perpetrator is deceased and no justice will ever come about :/
heure_actuelle Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
mte. I can't stand not having answers
jeterluva Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 11:43 am (UTC)
IA I have a hard time when I think about how people just disappear.
troy_macclure Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
MTE. I can barely bring myself to watch stories of unsolved murders.
cickiz Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:31 am (UTC)
:She was wearing a red dress and the wound had produced only a small amount of visible blood. Until she was examined at the medical center, no one had realized that she had been stabbed, and first responders thought that perhaps she had experienced a seizure or some other medical ailment."


..... um ok.
theburningdoll Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
I can't find it now (can't remember the name) but there was a whole family plus a friend/relative that was murdered on their farm. And people said they saw smoke coming from the chimney after the family was supposed to have been killed (no one knew they were dead at the time), so apparently the killer hung around afterwards. Creepy.
owtfx Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:40 am (UTC)
i was watching a doc on Ed Gein and went on wikipedia, now i cant stop reading about serial killers

they are SO FUCKED up it's honest-to-god mindboggling
pantspolice Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:41 am (UTC)
aw shit. here i go clicking your link and next thing i know, it's going to be 6 in the morning and i'll still be on wikipedia.
duckyduck92 Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:44 am (UTC)
i was marathoning 'women who kill' (or something like that) on netflix and omg I was obsessed with looking up cases on wiki.
wits Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:48 am (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Maura_Murray

this case is so bizarre
cukoo4cocopuffs Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 06:52 am (UTC)
Ugh - I read all sorts of true crime after these posts b/c one story leads to another and then another and I get so damn disturbed about the cases. Especially the ones about babies/children ...
dothecrunge Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 07:05 am (UTC)
I get really uncomfortable reading about unsolved murders

This alone makes me stressed:
lovebum4life Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 08:42 am (UTC)
really it's 4 in the morning and this chick was murdered at my school lol this is the stacks murder that everyone talks about!
lonely_goatherd Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 09:34 am (UTC)
Gah, unsolved shit freaks me out so much
n0goodnik Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 11:22 am (UTC)
Not on Wikipedia, but this case is so weird:

http://www.register-herald.com/local/x519073643/Where-are-the-children

http://www.mywvhome.com/old/sodder.html
dancehalldays Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 11:23 am (UTC)
This one gives me chills:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_children_disappearance
marmar627 Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 12:05 pm (UTC)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case (http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2011/08/the-body-on-somerton-beach/ for more) I saw this on ONTD, I think, a couple months ago and WHAT THE FUCK


And this isn't a murder or anything but I find it so fascinating/creepy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom_broadcast_signal_intrusion
ohkimosabe Re: fav wiki reads?25th-Nov-2012 01:40 pm (UTC)
the story that bothers me the most is about the mcstay family. e! news has a show about it sometimes.
tragickingdomxo 25th-Nov-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
The crime scene photos still disturb me, I was too young to remember how violent the crime was and...yeah.
distant_lines 25th-Nov-2012 07:14 am (UTC)
That's how I am with the Sharon Tate murder photos. I had to sleep with my mom the night I stumbled upon those while doing research for something.
benjersthefish 25th-Nov-2012 01:24 pm (UTC)
shouldn't.
have.
googled.
sky3205 25th-Nov-2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
yessssss. I remember googling those a while ago :(
fwee_prower 25th-Nov-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
OMG i legit watched it last night.

owtfx 25th-Nov-2012 06:51 am (UTC)
was it stupid?
fwee_prower 25th-Nov-2012 06:52 am (UTC)
no they had some facts. they actually sent the prosecution some facts and evidence that it could of been him and they ignored it.
owtfx 25th-Nov-2012 06:36 am (UTC)
wtf is wrong with lj
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