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1:30 pm - 11/20/2012

P!nk, a true pop artist


(CNN) -- One day, many years from now, future generations will look back at this time in our country's history and wonder what in the hell were we thinking.

The Kardashians are famous for no reason, same-sex marriage is controversial for stupid reasons, and somehow the "Twilight" franchise is a cash cow.

But our culture's biggest sin may well be the auto-tuned syrup we've allowed to dominate the pop charts. All-time chart records are handed to vacuous acts such as the Black Eyed Peas and singing awards are given to vocal lightweights such as Taylor Swift.

History will show a dark time in our culture in which a million followers on Twitter became a key component to winning a Grammy.

But thank God for Pink.


That's what I was thinking as I was watching her performance during Sunday's American Music Awards. She recreated the video for her current single, "Try," a midtempo ballad about the ups and downs of an imperfect relationship.

Where there is desire

There is gonna be a flame

Where there is a flame

Someone's bound to get burned

But just because it burns

Doesn't mean you're gonna die

You've gotta get up and try try try


Singing words like that live with the right level of emotion that Pink is known for is hard enough. Doing so while in engaged in an athletic pas de deux, complete with lifts, is breathtaking. She received a standing ovation afterward, much in the same way she commanded one at the 2010 Grammys as she swung over the audience's heads on a trapeze, asking:

Have you ever thrown a fist full of glitter in the air?

Have you ever looked fear in the face and said, "I just don't care"?


It would all seem like a meat-dress wearing gimmick if she didn't have the voice and lyrics to back it up. But she does, and thus we can all breathe a sigh of relief knowing her voice will be there for future generations to discover when looking back at us.

Pink won't be able to scrub our record clean singlehandedly -- there's just too much manufacturing for one person to overcome. But at least there will be evidence for my great-great grandkids to see that we weren't all "American Idol's" sheep. While Christina Aguilera has a tendency to oversing, Britney Spears can't sing, and Lauryn Hill sorta stopped singing, Pink has managed to carve a brilliant 13-year-career by being something that is incredibly rare these days -- an artist.

A complete artist.

Maybe the most underrated artist we've had on the radio in the past 20 years.

That's not to suggest she's been ignored -- Pink has sold more than 40 million albums worldwide. It's just when you look at the amount of publicity given to her in comparison to say, Lady Gaga or Adele, well there is no comparison. We know she is phenomenal, but the others are considered phenomenons. Gaga and Adele are worthy of the accolades, but whenever I listen to Pink's "Dear Mr. President," "Family Portrait" or "Sober," I feel the need to atone for us not making more room for her in the pop culture paradigm.

Billboard magazine -- one of the most respected names in the music industry -- ranked the top five performances from the American Music Awards. For them, Pink's brave rendition of "Try" was second. Tops was Psy doing "Gangnam Style" with MC Hammer.

MC Hammer!?!

Yes ... we're going to have a lot to answer for someday.

Source: http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/20/opinion/granderson-pink-music/index.html?sr=sharebar_twitter

highd 20th-Nov-2012 07:52 pm (UTC)
I would be more mad at her if what she was saying was unfounded or untrue. If you want to be pissed be pissed at the sub-par shit she is putting down and demand better.

paranoiddork 20th-Nov-2012 07:59 pm (UTC)
oMg ur such a haiter!!1111!!
highd 20th-Nov-2012 08:03 pm (UTC)
Am I a haiter??? Hmm must think about this.

I love your username. It's all I got :)
eden 20th-Nov-2012 08:20 pm (UTC)
Her own stuff is very generic and largely written by others, however. So she borrowed her number from Kate Bush the other night, instead of opting to hike up a ribbon again. And? It's the pot calling the kettle black. She's insecure and dumps all over other women.
ilovedogs 20th-Nov-2012 08:24 pm (UTC)
What do you mean borrowed from Kate Bush?


Where does she dump on other women?
eden 20th-Nov-2012 08:32 pm (UTC)
The entire performance reeked of Running Up That Hill. As for the girl on girl hate, try Stupid Girls.
ilovedogs 21st-Nov-2012 03:28 am (UTC)
Um, and so I guess you never read the lyrics to Stupid Girls? You just thought she was calling YOU stupid?

Here, let me help you. READ THEM.



And if you STILL think that is her trashing girls, then... I give up.

As for Running Up That Hill? Can I have some of whatever it is you are smoking?
eden 21st-Nov-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
I've read them before and viewed the music video more times than I'd like to admit. It is trashing girls-- a certain "type" of girls. If *you* think that's okay to any extent, than you might wanna have checked what it is you're smoking.
rylee900 29th-Nov-2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
What part of that is not trashing girls tbh
highd 20th-Nov-2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
So if she dumped on a few of Beiber's tunes that would even it out. Pop music is women these days, so if you are going to be judgemental about the current pool of talent you are going to "dump" on a woman.

It's professional politics and there is no card or badge or oath you have to take when you get a job, that says you have to stick up for shit you don't like just because you happen to share a gender.

Your upset over this makes me think you are a woman, have you never dumped on a fellow girl student at school or dumped on a fellow woman in your work place. If you have never done that, then your rage is justified ( I guess if pop stars flinging shit is really your cause campaign) but if you have then let her alone.
eden 20th-Nov-2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
No, it would not, as that's not my complaint.

Making a criticism about a female artist isn't automatically shitting on women...however, selecting Stupid Girls as a single is. There is a monumental difference between finding fault in another person-- of whatever gender-- or holding a negative opinion about their work, versus promoting girl on girl cattiness and shaming, as well.

It's professional politics and there is no card or badge or oath you have to take when you get a job, that says you have to stick up for shit you don't like just because you happen to share a gender.
Who said there was?

In addition, assumption making is never a good look. If you can't form your argument without going down that road, pack it in.

highd 20th-Nov-2012 09:17 pm (UTC)
"She's insecure and dumps all over other women."

These are your parting words to me. You are assuming there is some need for GIRL POWER in the pop world.

You are assuming/ implying she is insecure and that it's wrong of her to dump on other girls.

So maybe you should have packed it in before you started.
eden 20th-Nov-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
I love how you want to box me in with this girl power stuff, as if it's a bad thing. Okay, practice what you preach is what's needed. If she wants to put herself above it all and set an example, then she needs to do it. She needs to be a legitimate role model and do what a real feminist should, since that's how she prefers to view herself.

It's not okay to go at other girls just because they're girls and you don't like them. It's not okay to stereotype someone by their looks, just because the mean ol' cheerleaders picked on you in High School. Girl on girl hate is gross, and doesn't help her cause.
highd 20th-Nov-2012 10:25 pm (UTC)
Who are you to demand her be a role model. And who are you to judge her level of feminist?

She doesn't own anyone, but herself and the people in her life anything, and for anyone to demand more from her, or to put some title on her that she might not want is or desire is just fucked up.

When your industry is filled with woman, and your competition you don't have to sit on your hand and put tape on your mouth. It's ok to be critical and share your feelings about them and the direction the music is going. Just like this article did.

Did you get all in people shit over Gaga's dig at Adele's weight? Or Minja starting that shit on AI. Are they poor feminists for speaking their mind? What Madonna's digs at Cindy Lauper in the 80's poor feminism? It happened. They were huge rivals.

It's show business and what's so funny is your care more than the people she talked about care about it.

eden 20th-Nov-2012 10:40 pm (UTC)
Pink did Stupid Girls. Therefore, Pink has no room to talk.

Who are you to demand her be a role model. And who are you to judge her level of feminist?
This is what she claims to be. So, she needs to do it, or drop it. You said it's okay to be critical, and I am simply being that.

Sadly, though, you seem not to be reading anything I'm posting (or, at the very least, not comprehending it), so it's clear this discussion has met it's end. Once more for the record: just because others take digs, doesn't mean it's open season and that their actions are at all justifiable. Ignorance shouldn't ever be tolerated or excused, and needs to be called out.

However, this post is about Pink and her offenses... not to mention that's atrocious logic, what you're using, and therefore doesn't warrant any further reply.
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