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5:35 pm - 11/19/2012

Cameron Diaz: “Every Woman Wants to be Objectified — It’s Healthy”



Cameron Diaz makes the case for why some women “want to be objectified” in an eyebrow-raising, yet candid interview with the Sunday Times.

“I think every woman does want to be objectified. There’s a little part of you at all times that hopes to be somewhat objectified, and I think it’s healthy,” the actress tells the paper.

Diaz notes that she personally finds scantily-clad photo shoots to be “empowering.”

She says, “I’m not some young girl with the photographer going, ‘Will you take your clothes off?’ I’m like [mimes stripping], ‘How does this look?’”

“They’re like, ‘Today we’re not going to put anything other than bras and heels on you,’” Diaz continues, “and I’m like, ‘These heels are not high enough.’”


“I’m a woman, I know how to handle myself,” the What to Expect When You’re Expecting star adds.

Diaz explains, “I know what I feel comfortable doing and I know my sexuality."

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onyxobsidian 19th-Nov-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
So I'm not a woman, so tell me if I am right for thinking this is completely stupid:

I was watching Undercover Boss and it was about Tilted Kilt, which is apparently this restaurant chain where the sexy, busty waitresses wear less clothing than a Hooters girl (not kidding. Much less.)

The boss went to one of the locations where they aren't doing too well in sales and noticed the atmosphere there was a lot less lively than the store he had visited before. One of the 'security' guys said that a lot of the girls go to him complaining that guys are hitting on them, giving them phone numbers, and sometimes tugging at their skirts and shit.

REALLY? If you work in a place where you let your tits hang out and your skirt is up to your mound, shouldn't you sort of expect that kind of behavior from the guys who come in there? Then the boss guy who was Undercover said privately to the camera that he is upset this kind of behavior is happening, and this is a classy, family place and no one should be treated that way.
I figured girls go there to work because they know how to work the guys who are hitting on them, and while of course not acting on it or anything, at least be playful and flirty back, because you are going to make better tips that way.

I just can't believe a girl would willingly work in a place like that, put on a very, very revealing work outfit, and expect to be treated with utmost respect.
mikee414 19th-Nov-2012 11:46 pm (UTC)
wait WUT??? always thought u were a girl/woman.. OOP
onyxobsidian 19th-Nov-2012 11:47 pm (UTC)
Sorry, sis!
onyxobsidian 19th-Nov-2012 11:47 pm (UTC)
I mean bro
a_grumble_cakee 20th-Nov-2012 12:21 am (UTC)
He's a guy and he has a big diq.
kurtvonnegut 19th-Nov-2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
I just can't believe a girl would willingly work in a place like that, put on a very, very revealing work outfit, and expect to be treated with utmost respect.

i feel like if you seriously have this opinion, you're going to fight against anything a woman tells you otherwise anyway.
forkmeup 19th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
slut shaming. an outfit is NOT an invitation for sexual harassment/assault. unless a woman gives expressed consent, then keep your fucking hands off of her. period. that's like saying, "if she didn't want to get raped, she shouldn't have worn that outfit." fuck that.
cuzilubb 19th-Nov-2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
Well yeah, they should expect flirting but WTF at tugging their skirt? Not okay. At alllll.
katie_g_lynn 19th-Nov-2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
When you need the money, you go out and get a job. The job is shitty because it requires you to wear revealing clothing while serving food and drink, but that's not the waitress's fault. Just because her clothes are revealing doesn't mean guys can just grab her ass and treat her like shit.
janeeyre 19th-Nov-2012 11:50 pm (UTC)
IDK, I work being fully clothed and I get the same treatment.
judgmental 19th-Nov-2012 11:50 pm (UTC)


he seriously said classy family place?

now that being said, of course they're going to get flirty customers but they still have to be respected

Edited at 2012-11-19 11:52 pm (UTC)
duckyduck92 19th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
I am in the party of women who thinks no matter what you are wearing, no man is allowed to touch you. As someone who has been a hostess and been asked to sit on laps and go home with men, and sexually harassed by my manager as well, I completely understand why the women would feel that way and uncomfortable at work. To me it doesn't matter what the uniform warrants them to wear, it is one thing for a customer to flirt and another to sexually harass a server.
smashy 19th-Nov-2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
you're a man so of course you're not right. that aside, do you really need to be reminded that people work in places to get money? and that no matter how well they can ~work the guys, being treated like shit day in day out is a total fucking soul killer? just shut up.

edit: why did i even waste my time replying to you.

Edited at 2012-11-19 11:54 pm (UTC)
ellie_andrews 19th-Nov-2012 11:54 pm (UTC)
Some guys act disgusting in those places and figure they have free reign to do so because "Wellll they willing work here."

Yes, they expect to get hit on. Yes, they expect to get numbers. But they shouldn't be disrespected (and never grabbed but fuck that happens all the time too) because of their clothing.
evett 19th-Nov-2012 11:56 pm (UTC)
Maybe they can handle the casual flirter but there could be guys that are aggressive (especially after they drink) which is why the restaurants has security. They could have repeat customers who harass them on a weekly basis.

I don't see an issue with them being upset at guys tugging on their clothes. If you can't touch a stripper what would make these dudes think they can grab a waitress. Just because her tits are almost hanging out? nah
ronnie_luvs_u 19th-Nov-2012 11:57 pm (UTC)
what is the crusade you're going on here? to make sure that women wearing revealing clothing shut up when they're harassed, touched without their consent, etc? bravo, bravo a worthy cause!!

YOU ARE WRONG IN THINKING THIS. the end.
shangman 19th-Nov-2012 11:57 pm (UTC)
I think all women have the right to not be grabbed at, or have leud things said to them. Their outfits are there to titillate, but that doesn't give men the right to cross over into harassment. The women probably work there to get better tips, but a slightly higher pay doesn't give men the right to sexually harass them, it's about looking, not touching. Just because it's a temptation doesn't mean they should be allowed to give in to it and get away with it.
howlcosmiclove 19th-Nov-2012 11:59 pm (UTC)
Even if their work attire is revealing, that still doesn't open up the gateway for them to be disrespected.
sugarcrawler 20th-Nov-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
even in strip clubs, there are rules where you cant touch the strippers, they can only touch you. the thing is, each womans experience is different in this sort of thing. i remember reading about a sex worker who felt she got more respect in that job than being a cashier, because she was treated like utter shit by customers. but of course, its not the same for each woman..the point is even if thats their job, they still deserve to treated like a normal human being, outside their job, anywhere, the fact theyre dressed scantily means nothing.
orangeandblack 20th-Nov-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
Strip clubs even have the "no touching" rule most of the time, come on now, dude.

What about that disgusting pig that worked one of the Hooters that ended up getting canned for his behavior, treating the girls like shit "they're divas, they have to earn the right to go home by being degraded, trolololol". Nah.
mydogfred 20th-Nov-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
this comment makes me sad :/
hypnology 20th-Nov-2012 12:05 am (UTC)
So if there was a place called Peckers where men wore only speedos, it would be okay for people to grab their dicks? I mean they're not wearing clothes which must mean they don't want respect and that they want their dicks grabbed.
headswillroll88 20th-Nov-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
why is it so hard to look but not touch?
mynamehere07 20th-Nov-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
The point is is that no matter what a woman wears, it should never be taken as an invitation for inappropriate touching and cat calls.

A lot of men seem to have a sense that since woman wears a low cut shirt or short skirt that she wants any and all men to have sex with her.
anna_karenina_x 20th-Nov-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
So if your sister or daughter got a job at the Tilted Kilt you would be OK with guys grabbing her skirt, etc?
xtoki_dokix 20th-Nov-2012 12:17 am (UTC)
Not gonna get mad at you cus you really just don't know.

I can't say it's like this for all women but my guess is for most of them it's more like this.

They want to feel attractive or flirty or cute. They want to show off the body they probably work hard on and work somewhere that's fun and different. Daring and bold. Plus?? The tips there must be insane. BUT. NOW HERE IS THE LARGE BUT!

They don't want to be touched. No one does. That shits disgusting lol. No, they don't expect it because they figure the men will sit there, eat their food, and leave. Yes they might get an odd comment or two, but actual touching?? No one see's that coming. It's a food place, not a whore house. It's like when you go to Sonic burger and the servers come out in rollerblades. They don't EXPECT that someone is going to run up and push them down. Yes it could happen because they're wearing those blades, but who in their right mind would do that? Like, what kind of monster would disrespect someone so badly? It's the same way with those skimpy uniforms. In both cases, I suppose the employees are taking a risk, but obviously they should both NOT expect such bad treatment. Especially when strip clubs exist. If you want to touch a woman that's where you should go. Not a novelty act fast food establishment that's open to people of all ages.

I'd explain further but I have to take a nap before I go to work LOL goodluck
mercystars 20th-Nov-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
honest question, are you trolling rn?
stellar_ball 20th-Nov-2012 12:26 am (UTC)
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You are a mess in this thread. Just stop.
calinewarkwc69 20th-Nov-2012 12:28 am (UTC)
I was raised by a single dad, so I get your POV- should they expect it? Probably to an extent, in reality, but it's still not cool-

Shouldn't the men realize that these women are wearing a UNIFORM, and that just because the uniform, required to be worn for a shitty minimum wage job, is revealing/slutty/etc., it doesn't mean the woman inside is- trust me, not a lot of women get into the ~lucrative field of waiting tables because they want to get hit on 24/7 and they probably hate the uniform as much as they hate the customer glaring them down while they wear it...

My dad always said "if I don't want a man to say or do it to my daughter, my mother, my sister, or my girlfriend, then I'm not going to do it to a woman either." That's the bottom line in these things- treat others how you want to be treated.
bent_ley 20th-Nov-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
uhhh no it shouldnt be expected. of course they will have tables flirt with them but they should never ever be touched.
rogue 20th-Nov-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
YOU'RE NOT A GIRL? these fucking ontd revelations
vanishingbee 20th-Nov-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
no you shouldn't. that is, flat out, over the line harassment-- if you're being flirty and receptive and you get a phone number, fine. but having one forced on you, and having any sort of unwanted physical contact, is not what you're there to provide. You aren't a stripper giving a lapdance, and even THEY have a no touching rule.

edit: I responded to this, and then read through the thread-- even though a lot of what you said is making people angry, I really appreciate the fact that you didn't seem to be trolling and tried to talk out the issues and were willing to listen to what people say. Even though you started and continued a line of thought here that is really quite degrading to women, and problematic in various ways, I think it's really important & good that you tried to work past that, and actually posed it as a legitimate question you wanted to understand.

Edited at 2012-11-20 01:44 am (UTC)
sorya86 20th-Nov-2012 01:45 am (UTC)
Lbr here, you don´t understand what their problem is, because you don´t think women being treated like that is a big deal in first place.

Edited at 2012-11-20 01:49 am (UTC)
bellwetherr 20th-Nov-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
a woman could fucking walk around naked and that would STILL not give anyone a reason to touch her or talk to her in an inappropriate way.
buttermell0w 20th-Nov-2012 05:13 am (UTC)
So I'm not a woman, so tell me if I am right for thinking this is completely stupid

yes your ignorance is completely stupid.

and i give zero fucks if im walking around vag first naked that doesn't give ANYONE the right to TOUCH ME AT ALL WITHOUT ASKING FIRST. did you know at most strip clubs (bc i've had a few friends have to do that so they could, i don't know EAT) you can't touch them without permission. so no, ANYONE should ASK someone esp someone hey don't know if they can TOUCH or GRAB them before they do. also, maybe those girls work there because it's the ONLY job they could get at the time and they need to fucking eat and live somewhere so fuck you and your ignorance tbh. just fucking stop. i was sexually assaulted and grabbed and had to shove the guy off me the other month walking to meet some friends wearing pants and a fucking long sleeve shirt and a SCARF so don't fucking sit here and say it depends on how you dress or what you wear or blalalala. fuck you tbh. how DARE you say someone should EXPECT it because of HOW THEY DRESS

jello404 26th-Nov-2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
At the end of the day,look but don't touch.its a sexy restaurant ,not a bethel.
And if a guy gets too grabby,deck his ass. It's that's simple.
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