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MTV’s ‘Catfish’ TV Show Succeeds Where The Film Failed

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Sometimes a TV show really can be better than the film from whence it came. 
In 2010, Nev Shulman debuted his documentary, Catfish, which followed his journey to meet the girl he fell in love with on Facebook. Despite the marketing campaign for the film, which positioned it as some horror flick with a dangerous or paranormal twist, Shulman’s journey (SPOILER ALERT!) ended in a farmhouse with a middle-aged mother and wife who’d been creating false Facebook personas to stave off her own loneliness and boredom. It was an unexpected twist, for sure, but where audiences were expecting pure, radical shock and awe, we found our surprise coupled with something truly, deeply sad: a person whose life was so unlike the life they wanted that they felt the need to create another. When translated into a television show with a premise based up front on that emotional concept, the product is something that feels as if it has the momentum to move the discovery forward, instead of wallowing in the shock of the 180-degree turnaround. 

The first episode of Catfish: The TV Show, focuses on Sunny, a young woman who’s in an online relationship with a male model in L.A. … who also works at Chelsea Lately and writes for the show … and also writes cue cards? What an overachiever! In truth, as most viewers probably guessed from the premise of the show, this wonderful, magical Skype-allergic RJ guy is actually an 18 year-old girl named Chelsea who started the account as a means of revenge against someone who bullied her on Facebook. The lie started to consume her because she felt like an outcast in real life, and her online model persona afforded her the means to make easy connections with other girls online as she explored her bisexuality. And that’s where the show truly manages to surpass its cinematic source material. 

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Anyone ever been in an online relationship and found out that everything the other person told them was a lie?



(Not me. An interesting lesbian online dating horror story.) 


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williammiller 14th-Nov-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
I loled when Sunny was like "Oh, we never thought of Skyping, teehee." I mean, really? And you could totally tell the ~model was trying to make her voice sound deeper. She didn't sound like a guy at all. And it takes less than 5 seconds to google something or check someone out online. This show just screams fake.
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
Such bullshit. Like she wouldn't want to see him in motion on skype as opposed to pics.

I guess they never talked on the phone either because the minute Nev made that call I knew there was NO POSSIBLE WAY anyone could think that voice belonged to those pics.

Max said it best when he said it sounded like a 14yr old who still had braces.

Edited at 2012-11-14 10:49 pm (UTC)
williammiller 14th-Nov-2012 10:54 pm (UTC)
I think she said in the episode that they did talk on the phone, or I could have been mistaken. As soon as she answered the phone I was like "Um, there is absolutely no way this is a guy."
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
The second they got the person on the phone and I heard them speak I was like "OMG PRE TEEN BOY?!", I don't know why I didn't assume it was a chick but for some reason I wasn't thinking, lol. I can't believe anyone wouldn't see right through that horrible voice.

The voice also sounds dead inside, which would have been an auto-turn off anyways. Jeez.
bradentastic 14th-Nov-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
right?! if i'm dating someone i can assure you we would want to skype. i mean fuck wouldnt she want to have cyber sex? haha
loaded___gun 15th-Nov-2012 01:48 am (UTC)
i don't know if i believe it's fake - i just believe that that girl didn't WANT to believe that it was fake. he sounded like the "total package" and maybe she didn't want to burst that bubble. idk
vidriodeperlas 14th-Nov-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
i online dated a "lesbian" for like a few weeks but i was pretty suspicious because the way "she" talked, just sounded like a dude trying to sound like girl, like, "my cunt is sopping wet for you right now, babe," and like, "she" would refuse to talk on the phone, just text, and eventually i had a friend do some supersleuthing and we found out it was this creepy neckbeard trying to pick up dykes online. idk how he thought that would end. i guess he thought the mighty power of his bearded cock would sway them away from the pussy.

fucking gross.
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 10:47 pm (UTC)
Ugh & yuck.
skonka 14th-Nov-2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
Why didn't I think of that?
kurtvonnegut 14th-Nov-2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
lol i find that women rarely refer to their nether regions as a "cunt" in dirty talk
bradentastic 14th-Nov-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
omg thats disgusting
rewrittentime 14th-Nov-2012 11:03 pm (UTC)
eugh what a fucking douche :|
soupdupcosmogrl 14th-Nov-2012 11:19 pm (UTC)
lol, I can't right now with that text. Gooood god.
gaybash 16th-Nov-2012 02:36 am (UTC)
did he send u money
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
This brings back SO MANY memories of my youth.

We had so many lying bitches throughout internet fandoms all these years, we never got played that hard thankfully. Since we totally googled the shit out of everyone most of the time when they had outrageous claims.

I had to talk my mom through Catfish, it was a crazy adventure. She was in shock and awe and disgust all at once. It fed into her irrational hate for the internet, needless to say. "Have you ever."

I used to lie to old pervs in Yahoo Chats when I was 17, I won't even pretend otherwise.

Edited at 2012-11-14 10:46 pm (UTC)
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
Lulz.

Lie in what way?
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 10:50 pm (UTC)
First of all that I was "into" older dudes, lol. It was a "OLDER DUDES, YOUNGER CHICKS" chat room. I don't even know what I lied about, it was mostly like "one time I masturbated with a vegetable." etc. THIS was before cams were really popular, so it was all typing and none of that "HERES A PIC OF MY DICK" shit. IM NOT HERE FOR YOUR DICK PICTURES, DUDES.

I was this little virgin chubby 17 year old just like "yeah sure, let's do this."

I never had relationships with anyone, that "dragging it out" shit blows my mind, I have too much of a conscious.
francesbcobain 14th-Nov-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
omg Yahoo chats! My friend and I used to go on them all the time as teenagers.
jess_sayin 14th-Nov-2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
I really hate awkward moments, so I cringe a lot.
A. LOT.
this episode was ok, maybe next one will be better.
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
Crazy story.

Internet fandom, circa 2004ish? We had this girl who totally did snow us, fake pictures and all that. She used her cousins pics, etc. We found out she's a fake and all that, bye bitch, right?

A while later, someone stumbles upon her REAL Myspace (LOL RIGHT) only not laughing because it turns out she DIED.

The internet folks, it's fucking weird and I feel like I've been here too long. Shit.

Otherwise most people FAKED their deaths on the MBs because they wanted sick attention, etc. Faked accidents so that other members they were ~*dating~* would love them more? IDK. A lot of girls pretending to be boys but we usually fished those out fast "oh you're a dude, in a Good Charlotte fandom? You're going to need to show some fucking receipts."
interrogatives 14th-Nov-2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
oh yes. good charlotte forum was my life for a few years.
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 11:51 pm (UTC)
Were you really active there? Pretty sure if you were there between 2002-2005, we may have known each other, LOL. I could not shut up on that god forsaken place, until the servers finally just shit themselves completely.
aujourlejour 3rd-Dec-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
super late, but could you describe the girl who died a little more? a friend of mine died in high school (2005) and she into good charlotte. this story is giving me weird vibes.
lreservoirldogs 14th-Nov-2012 10:55 pm (UTC)
the movie was boring. no thanks.
kknee13 14th-Nov-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
I remember going into aol chatrooms when I was like 10 and I wouldn't even go in a suspiciously named chatrooms just like "shopping" or something, and thinking back on it now I was definitely talking to some pedophiles bc they'd ask for asl and I'd lie and say I was 13 and they'd say they were 20 something then they'd ask if I would cyber and I had no idea what cybering meant LOL. or I remember one time I had a friend over and the guy was asking if he had ever "done stuff" and I had no idea what that meant I thought that meant do we hang out so I said oh yeah all the time. YIKES.
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
omg I used to go in chatrooms when I was around 11, too. I'd be talking to all these "16 year olds" who you know were really 45.

I looked one screen name up that I remembered years later and saw that the bastard was still pretending to be 16. That's some life he had going on there.
bradentastic 14th-Nov-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
i have a few online friends... we've never met in person but we're friends on facebook (met through tumblr) and text, skype each other, follow each other on twitter etc there's really nothing i've seen that indicates they're lying about stuff. things like this always give such a bad rap for online friendships~ its not 1999 anymore if you REALLY want to be smart there are ways around it.
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
You missed the era of fake myspaces, sis! There's so much trolling/lies on twitter, i cannot. Though skype does make things a lot easier to sort out the crap, you've got one up there, lol.
bradentastic 14th-Nov-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
hahah no i went through the fake myspace era! i never became friends with anyone from online til about a year ago (because of tumblr) and now i talk to 3 guys pretty regularly.

skyping was definitely the fastest way to be like oh hey you're exactly what i thought you would be like lmao. it's weird because even though i've never met them i still feel like it's completely normal and natural because there's nothing weird about them and our friendship really just feels like a long distance friendship
beaddddddsss 14th-Nov-2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
When I had a facebook, a few of my friends were ONTDers. I trust them and they're legit, lovely people tho, so I never had to worry about that. Thankfully.
lulufairybubble 14th-Nov-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
I remember I used to troll an Avril Lavigne forum when she first got big. It was like AvrilStar or something lolol. I would act like a fan for a bit and then post all the inaccuracies in Avril's 'story' and her guitar playing abilities. Then I would pretend to be a friend who had signed on to the account b/c she hated that her friend like Avril. Then I would get banned but just would email the mods like 'Hey I can't log in, what's happening' and they explain what happened and I would act mortified.
nervous 15th-Nov-2012 12:00 am (UTC)
lmao damn that's elaborate
lulufairybubble 15th-Nov-2012 01:29 am (UTC)
Lol right
It went on for a while. I even did it on multiple accounts. They had to make a bulletin about not leaving yourself logged in to protect the forum. They thought it was seriously a security concern.

'twas my first trolling. Didnt find out til years later that there was a phrase for what I did
boxesofbullets 14th-Nov-2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
i used to go to chat rooms when i was in highschool and say i was like "11/f" and it was disturbing how many private messages i would get in a matter of seconds from weirdos who acted like they were really interested in me as a person. i guess i was never messed with in that aspect, but i just found it interesting to see how desperate these creeps were and how long it took for them to turn casual talk into sex talk ... with someone who they thought was an 11 year old.
dumpyfledgling 14th-Nov-2012 11:02 pm (UTC)
Starting chatting to this guy on OKC about our mutual love of Harry Potter & Game of Thrones. After some peer pressuring from my friends, I have him my phone number so we could start texting. BAD IDEA! He startedtexting me non-stop asking me when I would go visit him (because he was going to college away from home & did not have a car) & when I said we need to take things slow, he capitalized all his next texts talking about how I was just lying to him & I never planned to meet him anyways. I sent one last text telling him that I was not going to be treated like this & would never respond again. He sent me 2 apology texts the next day begging me to respond.
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 11:06 pm (UTC)
Holy shit, I'm glad you never actually met that guy though, right?

I had a friend who had some dude pester the shit out of her for months it felt like over getting a second date, trying to guilt her and say all that "BUT IM A NICE GUY, WHY DONT YOU WANT TO DATE A NICE GUY LIKE ME" D:
beaddddddsss 14th-Nov-2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
Creeper extraordinaire. Is he still bugging you or has that ship thankfully sailed?
dumpyfledgling 15th-Nov-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
Thank God that ship has sailed. Although, he did create another OKC account and kept visiting my page for several days in a row.
ohkimosabe 15th-Nov-2012 05:34 am (UTC)
if you have an android or iphone download the kik app it's like texting but you can block someone if they get crazy like that.
pon_pon_pink 14th-Nov-2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
i met my second bf when i was 14 online (he was the friend of a friend), things were fine for like a month but he turned out to be the biggest manipulative dick ever. i'm glad my younger self was intelligent enough to get rid of his ass.
last guy i met online was just a few months ago, super awesome guy, we have so much in common and talk a lot but now he's in a relationship.

been thinking about trying guys online elsewehre (both were on chatrooms and facebook) but idk what would be an online tool where people seriously interested in relationships hang out...in germany lol
squishinator 14th-Nov-2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
ONTD, would you be more upset if you had a long term internet friend/relationship and then discovered they were lying about 1. their photos, or 2. their entire personality?
kenzainfluenza 14th-Nov-2012 11:15 pm (UTC)
their photos!
squishinator 14th-Nov-2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
haha ikr i'd feel totally duped
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 11:22 pm (UTC)
Eh.. prob personality.

I genuinely think I could get over fake photos. Depending on how far the truth was stretched ofc. idk idk. I've never found myself in a long-term relationship like that.
kurtvonnegut 14th-Nov-2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
photos

it's human nature to want to change ur personality to be more likable but photos is just straight up lying and you'd have to make a conscious effort.
silky_pico 14th-Nov-2012 11:45 pm (UTC)
photos, especially if it was a relationship wtf
francesbcobain 14th-Nov-2012 11:55 pm (UTC)
oop can't read. Personality.

Edited at 2012-11-14 11:56 pm (UTC)
beetsbearsbsg 15th-Nov-2012 02:08 am (UTC)
Personality. I have an online friend who I video chat with every so often (for the past 3 years), so I know what he looks like. But if I found out he was just putting on an act, personality wise, I would feel betrayed.
hoot 14th-Nov-2012 11:16 pm (UTC)
It wasn't a romantic relationship or anything, but from the age of about 13 to 21 I was really good friends with this guy I met in a chat room. He said he was gay so it was never romantic obviously, but we'd talk online and on the phone all the time. Like I POURED my heart out to him at times, told him all these private things about myself, etc. I considered him one of my best friends.

Then I found out through another mutual friend of ours that this guy was in fact a girl (I guess she got drunk and admitted it to our friend). That was shocking obviously and I was pissed because I'd been lied to for many many years, but I felt so close to this person I was like, "whatever, I can get over it." Then I kept finding out all these little things she'd told me over the years were lies. She kept apologizing when something new came out and I tried to keep the friendship going for as long as I could, but we ended up just growing apart.

I don't think she was doing to be malicious or anything, I think she'd just invented this identity for fun and didn't realize she'd be making actual friends, and then it just got complicated and she didn't know how to tell the truth. At least that's what I tell myself to make myself feel better about it.
squishinator 14th-Nov-2012 11:21 pm (UTC)
I had a super close e-bestie from like age 16-23, and like you i poured my heart out to him about everything (he was also gay, wasnt a relationship or anything but i told him EVERYTHING)

then randomly he cut off all of his internet friends including me with no real explanation ( i guess we wanted to focus on "real life" or w/e)

anyways 2 years later and he died in a car accident :( :(
and i know he was legit and that its real and its so depressing.
he was a member here as well :-\
hoot 14th-Nov-2012 11:22 pm (UTC)
omg that's terrible. :(
ediesedgwick 14th-Nov-2012 11:29 pm (UTC)
omg was it williamblair :(
williammiller 14th-Nov-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
Aww that's awful :(
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
Oh wow.. you handled that well. Props.
orangeandblack 14th-Nov-2012 11:54 pm (UTC)
This is so sad, it's such a tangled web when you start getting into that sort of friendship that was started with such baffling lies.

I think a lot of girls pretend to be guys to get attention from the girls on certain fandoms. Then they realize they really like the people, etc. Then they're stuck in their false persona, ick ick ick.
hope_remains 17th-Nov-2012 06:18 am (UTC)
That really is probably what it is. I think it's too black-and-white to just call all people that do that malicious creeps. They're not.

The internet an unbelievable thing. Sometimes the idea of trying to be someone else can seem really fun and appealing. But if you happen to make an actual connection with someone while lying, then things quickly and easily get out of hand. People get in too deep, shit like that.

I've been on both sides of it, tbh. Oh, life. It can seriously be so complicated and the anonymity of the internet is a powerful thing.
__redrightankle 14th-Nov-2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
i was in an online relationship during my senior year of high school. never got to meet the guy but it fucked me up severely. i was falling hard for him because i was vulnerable and my mental health was spiraling downward. turns out he was playing me and was in love with someone i was close with. they both didn't have the heart to tell me because of my mental state but i soon discovered what was going on. the worst part was, when i found out i pretended it wasn't really happening and didn't even confront them for months. i eventually cracked and went apeshit on the both of them because i had bottled everything up. my friend and i worked it out and we are still very close to this day but i scared the guy off. i don't blame him because i was ill and even my friends didn't know how to handle me. it sounds so melodramatic and stupid but i won't ever be the same because of it. the guy and i are still facebook friends and i talked to him a little over a year ago, just so i could brag about how great i'm doing since we last spoke to each other. it really sucks that a person i never met will have an affect on how i handle relationships for a long time. he ended up lying to my friend and hurting her too. ugh it was such a fucked up situation and i stopped playing MMORPGS for a looooooong time because i was scared to talk to people on them.
he was a serious babe tho, i woulda hit that if we had actually met
reidacted 14th-Nov-2012 11:27 pm (UTC)
Was he legit, tho?
__redrightankle 14th-Nov-2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
yep! he was. we skyped almost everyday. i would talk to his brother, friends, i spoke to his parents over the phone. at first i was skeptical bc like he was a gamer guy. how legit could he be?! but he was genuine in everything about his life except for his feelings for me
francesbcobain 15th-Nov-2012 12:02 am (UTC)
I had the same problem. I was really depressed and lonely so latched on to anyone who showed me the least bit of attention. It sucks. I hate myself for it. I feel stupid. I know I Shouldn't because 1. I was 16 and 2. I was severely depressed.
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