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9:58 pm - 11/07/2012

“The Golden Age of TV” x TV Wives: A depressing undercurrent of misogyny



Earlier this week, there was a recap posted on Grantland about the latest episode of The Walking Dead, which made some great overall points about the show and its underselling of their own characters, and also touched on a very disturbing trend happening with most of our currently critically beloved shows – the absolute hatred most fandoms seem to have for the wives in them:


(btw, I shouldn’t have to point out how SPOILERY this is, since, like I already mentioned, it’s a recap of the latest episode – but still, just for good measure: Spoilers ahead.)


(…) As befits a character always treated as second-class, T-Dog’s dismemberment was overshadowed by a much more outrageous death last night. And the fact that it’s taken me 900 words just to get to the part of the episode that everyone is talking about reveals my ambivalence. To recap: In an act of perfect TV karma, Lori goes into labor while on the run from a swarm of walkers. In the relative peace and lack of hygiene of a boiler room, she realizes “something is wrong” and insists that Maggie cut the baby out of her, likely ending her life. With a level of uterine gore not seen since Prometheus and a dash of Oedipal agony unimaginable even by Sophocles, this is precisely what happens.

Now, in the short view, there is a part of me that admires the unblinking savagery of Mazzara’s vision. As appalling as everything that happened in the boiler room was, it certainly was consistent with the miserable universe The Walking Dead has created, a place where tough choices are inevitable, pain is unavoidable, and life — particularly young life — is to be protected at any cost. All actresses, inevitably, are asked to perform an agonizing birth scene at least once in their careers, and Sarah Wayne Callies was excellent here. For once, her innate fierceness was used for something other than accusatory snark; in her wide-eyed and desperate good-bye to her son, there was a hint of the ferocious and protective warrior/mother the character could have become with better development and more thoughtful scripts.

As quick as I’ve been to label Lori Grimes one of the worst protagonists on television, the intensity of fan hatred has continually given me pause. There’s a depressing undercurrent of misogyny to a lot of the reaction toward TV wives these days, from Skyler White to Cat Stark. It’s something I’ve been guilty of harping on as much as anyone. But a large part of the blame rests in the writing, the perpetual creation of an impossible dynamic wherein the cool husband wants to do fun and/or violent stuff and the snippy wife is always trying to harsh his mellow. As a TV fan, I wasn’t unhappy to see Lori Grimes go. And the atrocity of it all brought out the best in the normally wooden Andrew Lincoln and certainly made the burden on young Chandler Riggs — who, thus far as an actor, has proven to be all hat and no cattle — even greater. But the exact way she went out was an even greater bummer than the irritating scold the character had become.

Lori’s final words to Carl, before sacrificing herself in front of his young eyes, sounded to me like an unnecessary apology, not a loving good-bye. “It’s so easy to do the wrong thing in this world,” she moaned. “If it feels wrong, don’t do it. If it feels easy, don’t do it.” What she was referring to, of course, was her utterly reasonable decision to bed down with Shane, a trusted and caring family friend, amid the looming horror of the end of the world. Her ongoing guilt and suffering for this is and has always been outrageous; surely a reality in which burying a machete into a man’s widow’s peak is a heroic act can forgive a little post-traumatic nookie. There’s a difference between the admirably unforgiving worldview Mazzara is trumpeting elsewhere and downright cruelty. There were plenty of reasons for Lori Grimes to die; it’s a shame that her capital offense turned out to be the simple act of being alive.


Also embedding the video linked to in the article:



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everyforever 8th-Nov-2012 12:29 am (UTC)
IF ANYTHING THERE IS WAY TOO MUCH HATE FOR CERSEI IF YOU WANNA GO DOWN THE HATRED-OF-WOMEN/WIVES ROUTE-- OR DOES SHE NOT COUNT SINCE HER HUSBAND IS DEAD

IDK CAN WE TALK ABOUT GAME OF THRONES
daddyissues 8th-Nov-2012 12:30 am (UTC)
cersei is my EVERYTHING
soavantgarde 8th-Nov-2012 12:32 am (UTC)
I love everything this comment chooses to be

my bb girl gets SO MUCH hate as if she's the only character in this series who does really shitty stuff, blame her entirely for joffrey (lol mb if he didn't have an absent father he was obsessed with impressing he wouldn't've been such a complete fuckhead), call her a cheating whore blah blah for what she does to jaime, etc

they need to stfd

cyberghostface 8th-Nov-2012 12:36 am (UTC)
my bb girl gets SO MUCH hate as if she's the only character in this series who does really shitty stuff

Nope, but she definitely does some of the most horrible stuff. The people that are worse than her are the complete monsters like Ramsay and Gregor.
sensualcoco 8th-Nov-2012 12:39 am (UTC)
I haven't read the books so I have no idea what goes down in the future, but so far in the show I actually think Cersei is one of the most reasonable characters.
Her husband didn't love her, he fucked other people and so did she. The things she does are to protect her children. And it seemed the the worst things that happened were because Joffrey doesn't listen.
yinake 8th-Nov-2012 02:03 am (UTC)
tbh I do not blame Cersei for how she treats Robert or Jaime (like her better than Jaime, really), the cheating, her having sex with whomever, or pretty much 90% of what she does but what did legitimately give me pause was when she was all, "these shriveled-up septas probably want some raping" in AFFC because that sort of view on rape is a big, big trigger for me.

She is entertaining, though, and far from my most-hated character.
cheeseasauras 8th-Nov-2012 12:34 am (UTC)
I love Cersei with all my heart but she's also super paranoid and a little little bit crazy. It is interesting to me though, that had Cersei been born the boy, she would have been Tywin's ideal son.
cerseilannister 8th-Nov-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
cersei is an actual queen. she gives me so much life. i can't imagine hating such a bad bitch.
goofusgallant 8th-Nov-2012 12:35 am (UTC)
I love Cersei.
One of my fave Cersei quotes:

"Ten thousand of your children perished in my palm, Your Grace. Whilst you snored, I would lick your sons off my face and fingers one by one, all those pale sticky princes. You claimed your rights, my lord, but in the darkness I would eat your heirs."

I wish Tywin spent as much time grooming Cersei as he did Jaime. I wish she didn't live in a patriarchal society. Imagine if she lived in Dorne...she could of had it ALLLLLL

Edited at 2012-11-08 12:37 am (UTC)
noskidaddle 8th-Nov-2012 12:36 am (UTC)
She does not deserve the amount of hate that she gets at all. Her actions annoy me, but I can't hate her at all, cuz she's only doing stuff to protect her kids, which is pretty admirable
fauxkaren 8th-Nov-2012 12:40 am (UTC)
Cersei isn't in my top 5 characters or anything, but yeah. People's hatred for her reveals their double standards.

Because like Littlefinger is a much worse person than she is and yet he has way more fans and doesn't get much hate at all.
watchsnowfall 8th-Nov-2012 12:44 am (UTC)
cersei is absolutely batshit but an amazing character. if that makes sense.
anitakkkat 8th-Nov-2012 12:59 am (UTC)
I think there's a lot of unreasonable hate for all the female characters in GoT
Thanks to Lena's amazing acting in the second season, I've grown to love Cersei sfm
miakun 8th-Nov-2012 01:12 am (UTC)
At least she is awesome in the show and they didn't MURDER HER CHARACTER LIKE CAT.

I will light those writers on fire.
principino 8th-Nov-2012 01:23 am (UTC)
Cersei is a GREAT character, but I don't really understand how you could like her. She's hardcore pathological--sadistic, amoral, paranoid, narcissistic--and there are few characters more malicious or mean-spirited than she is in the series. All of that being said--she's damn fun to read about.
threeatatimejay 8th-Nov-2012 01:37 am (UTC)
I started off unable to stand her crazy ass, but damn if she didn't grow on me by the end. She's actually one of the few storylines I care about right now.
nebulous_mirage 8th-Nov-2012 02:11 am (UTC)
cersei has done lots of really fucked up things and i hate her for that. but i think she's still one of the best characters because of her complex storyline
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