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9:58 pm - 11/07/2012

“The Golden Age of TV” x TV Wives: A depressing undercurrent of misogyny



Earlier this week, there was a recap posted on Grantland about the latest episode of The Walking Dead, which made some great overall points about the show and its underselling of their own characters, and also touched on a very disturbing trend happening with most of our currently critically beloved shows – the absolute hatred most fandoms seem to have for the wives in them:


(btw, I shouldn’t have to point out how SPOILERY this is, since, like I already mentioned, it’s a recap of the latest episode – but still, just for good measure: Spoilers ahead.)


(…) As befits a character always treated as second-class, T-Dog’s dismemberment was overshadowed by a much more outrageous death last night. And the fact that it’s taken me 900 words just to get to the part of the episode that everyone is talking about reveals my ambivalence. To recap: In an act of perfect TV karma, Lori goes into labor while on the run from a swarm of walkers. In the relative peace and lack of hygiene of a boiler room, she realizes “something is wrong” and insists that Maggie cut the baby out of her, likely ending her life. With a level of uterine gore not seen since Prometheus and a dash of Oedipal agony unimaginable even by Sophocles, this is precisely what happens.

Now, in the short view, there is a part of me that admires the unblinking savagery of Mazzara’s vision. As appalling as everything that happened in the boiler room was, it certainly was consistent with the miserable universe The Walking Dead has created, a place where tough choices are inevitable, pain is unavoidable, and life — particularly young life — is to be protected at any cost. All actresses, inevitably, are asked to perform an agonizing birth scene at least once in their careers, and Sarah Wayne Callies was excellent here. For once, her innate fierceness was used for something other than accusatory snark; in her wide-eyed and desperate good-bye to her son, there was a hint of the ferocious and protective warrior/mother the character could have become with better development and more thoughtful scripts.

As quick as I’ve been to label Lori Grimes one of the worst protagonists on television, the intensity of fan hatred has continually given me pause. There’s a depressing undercurrent of misogyny to a lot of the reaction toward TV wives these days, from Skyler White to Cat Stark. It’s something I’ve been guilty of harping on as much as anyone. But a large part of the blame rests in the writing, the perpetual creation of an impossible dynamic wherein the cool husband wants to do fun and/or violent stuff and the snippy wife is always trying to harsh his mellow. As a TV fan, I wasn’t unhappy to see Lori Grimes go. And the atrocity of it all brought out the best in the normally wooden Andrew Lincoln and certainly made the burden on young Chandler Riggs — who, thus far as an actor, has proven to be all hat and no cattle — even greater. But the exact way she went out was an even greater bummer than the irritating scold the character had become.

Lori’s final words to Carl, before sacrificing herself in front of his young eyes, sounded to me like an unnecessary apology, not a loving good-bye. “It’s so easy to do the wrong thing in this world,” she moaned. “If it feels wrong, don’t do it. If it feels easy, don’t do it.” What she was referring to, of course, was her utterly reasonable decision to bed down with Shane, a trusted and caring family friend, amid the looming horror of the end of the world. Her ongoing guilt and suffering for this is and has always been outrageous; surely a reality in which burying a machete into a man’s widow’s peak is a heroic act can forgive a little post-traumatic nookie. There’s a difference between the admirably unforgiving worldview Mazzara is trumpeting elsewhere and downright cruelty. There were plenty of reasons for Lori Grimes to die; it’s a shame that her capital offense turned out to be the simple act of being alive.


Also embedding the video linked to in the article:



Full article at the source
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heartstopper 8th-Nov-2012 12:50 am (UTC)
wuuut, i fucking love skylar, she's so fucking cool, how crazy would anyone else go to find out all the shit she did and still try to make it work? all of these characters have had to cope with horrible situations, idk what people want from them?
flirflir 8th-Nov-2012 12:51 am (UTC)
betty, cat and skyler are everything
bluntbitchqueen 8th-Nov-2012 12:51 am (UTC)
I love Skylar so, idgaf.
iotajot 8th-Nov-2012 12:54 am (UTC)
Out of the four women in the post picture all I like is Catelyn Stark. To be fair though I've never seen Mad Men. Should I give that show a shot?
fauxkaren 8th-Nov-2012 01:00 am (UTC)
Mad Men is REALLY great, imo.

It can feel a bit slow moving at times, but it does get good.
cerseilannister 8th-Nov-2012 01:05 am (UTC)
Yes
ms_mmelissa 8th-Nov-2012 01:06 am (UTC)
No.

It started off really great, but I think in later seasons it becomes really apparent that Weiner is never going to address racism/sexism or the cultural revolution in a meaningful way.
kurtvonnegut 8th-Nov-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
THIS
love_keiko 8th-Nov-2012 02:33 am (UTC)
it's so fuckin' depressing. i was SO excited when dawn came on---i actually predicted it since the civil rights movement was making HUGE waves. and whether ad agencies wanted to admit it or not---they had a new branch of ppl to reach out to.

and then they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with her. NOTHING. smfh...im so bitter, i can't.
kurtvonnegut 8th-Nov-2012 01:23 am (UTC)
idk, i hate mad men. i liked it at first because it really did start off as a commentary but i feel like it's devolved into a fetishism of 60s culture when it began as trying to tell us what was wrong with it.
commabut 8th-Nov-2012 10:20 am (UTC)
yes, imo
bad_situation 8th-Nov-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
I wish people who don't like Skylar would just admit it's pure misogyny for their dislike and stop trying to find other reasons. If she were a man, guys would be praising her actions.
saltireflower 8th-Nov-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
I pretty much hate everyone on WD other than Glen, but yeah, Lori did get a lot of hate for sleeping with Shane which I don't think is fair.
sassandthecity Favorite Twitter moment last night since we're talking about women and TV8th-Nov-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
"In two years, the night Todd Akin lost will somehow be dealt with in a patronizing, sexist way on THE NEWSROOM "
kalie_m 8th-Nov-2012 02:15 am (UTC)
lol. I had to give up on that show before the end of the first season. I couldn't take how horrible it was.
verystefunny 8th-Nov-2012 01:01 am (UTC)
i just started watching sons of anarchy and feel like most of the women on that show probably get a lot of h8. would anyone who's familiar w/ the fandom care to enlighten me?
evett 8th-Nov-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
Most people seem to like Tara and Gemma and want them to get along more.
landwarinasia 8th-Nov-2012 01:15 am (UTC)
A lot of people REALLY hate Tara and I feel like I'm starting to see a lot of Gemma hate this season.
brokenseas 8th-Nov-2012 01:25 am (UTC)
I don't think they get a bad amount of hate actually--except maybe Donna, for not wanting Opie to stay in the club. If anything Tara and Gemma encourage the bad behavior of Jax and Clay, so they kind of absolve themselves of this problem a lot of TV wives have. Unfortunately, I hate the way they are writing both of them this season, especially Tara--they are both becoming fairly unredeemable.

Edited at 2012-11-08 01:26 am (UTC)
vanhrh 8th-Nov-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Tara gets a lot of hate.
evett 8th-Nov-2012 01:06 am (UTC)
I found Lori annoying and I hated her for telling Andrea she should go wash clothes when she wanted to learn how to shoot. Cause cleaning and cooking will keep you alive in a zombie apocalypse.

Never hated Skylar. Never hated Cat.

Betty is meant to be a character you love to hate and hate to love (because they are flawed people like Don, Pete and Roger etc). You feel sorry for Betty when Don cheats on her but then you hate her for the way she treats her kids and new husband.
cringinglove 8th-Nov-2012 01:10 am (UTC)
ia regarding lori (skimmed the rest to avoid spoilers cause i'm not caught up on the other shows).

i mean, she continuously pissed me off and had me me yelling at the TV, but for shit like telling andrea to stay in the kitchen and acting all shitty toward rick after he did exactly what she told him to do, etc - how hard is it to recognize and be annoyed by those things without throwing around ridiculously misogynistic slurs and taking disturbing delight at the thought of her dying? like, i can't even imagine what the total would be if you ctl+f'd "bitch" and "cunt" in the comments in any given walking dead post. even fucking SHANE didn't see anywhere near that kind of backlash and he was a murderer, attempted rapist, went out trying to kill his best friend, on and on

lollapoe 8th-Nov-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
I honestly don't get what kind of reaction people expected from her after she found out her kid was the one who actually had to do that.
cringinglove 8th-Nov-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
true - i think it was the look she gave rick like he was some terrible monster she had to shield their kid from that set people off, but it's not like it was an entirely unrealistic reaction given the amount of fucked up information she had to take in all at once. rick also didn't do a particularly good job of relaying what happened, lbr

and i really couldn't with all the people talking about how they couldn't wait for her to die a crazy brutal death and all that, especially considering how many people were so upset about shane dying
lathwen1 8th-Nov-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
thank you!

I liked her, but I can understand if people didn't. Even if I don't agree on them on the bad things she did. (this is me saying I don't agree with the first part of your comment, except for the kitchen thing)
But ppl should be capable of not liking her without the misogyny.
dannyupshaw 8th-Nov-2012 01:15 am (UTC)
lathwen1 8th-Nov-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
LMAO
londonshowers 8th-Nov-2012 03:56 am (UTC)
MISANDRYYYYYY!!!!!!!
violet_crumble9 8th-Nov-2012 01:16 am (UTC)
I havent watched the walking dead, but Skylar and Betty and awesome and people can deal.
alanadelrey 8th-Nov-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
I really liked her this season, I was sad to see her go, I thought things were starting to look up for her :'(
nene718 8th-Nov-2012 01:19 am (UTC)
skylar haters can suck a fuck
kurtvonnegut 8th-Nov-2012 01:22 am (UTC)
honestly we just need more female leads. when we're supposed to worship a lead and get annoyed with the people who stand in their way, constantly writing leads as male and the tertiary characters who dare oppose him as female is problematic.
brokenseas 8th-Nov-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
Amen.
ms_mmelissa 8th-Nov-2012 01:32 am (UTC)
Yes!

Although I noticed that on Scandal, even though there's a female lead, Olivia's female colleague who opposes her sort of has that typical "nagging wife" role and gets a looooooot of fandom hate and misogyny thrown her way. Guess it's hard not to fall into old patterns.
kurtvonnegut 8th-Nov-2012 01:43 am (UTC)
i have no idea what they're trying to do with abby. it's like they're trying to make her an outspoken sassy female who opposes olivia at times (which like, cool) but instead of giving her any depth they just make her say snarky lines about whatever the current situation happens to be. her opinions are all over the place.

Edited at 2012-11-08 01:44 am (UTC)
pin_stripe 8th-Nov-2012 01:33 am (UTC)
THANK YOU
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