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1:50 am - 11/06/2012

UCLA-American Indian Studies Open Letter To No Doubt



An Open Letter to No Doubt, Supersonic Public Relations and Interscope Records in Response to No Doubt's Video, “Looking Hot”:

The American Indian Studies Center is a research institute founded in 1969 at the University of California, Los Angeles, dedicated to addressing American Indian issues and supporting Indian nations. The Center also serves as a bridge between the academy and indigenous peoples locally, nationally, and internationally, with a goal of advancing understandings between Native and non-Native communities. One particular challenge faced by American Indians in the United States is a perceived invisibility and a corresponding lack of understanding of the contemporary existence and relevance of Native peoples. We work to dismantle such barriers at the American Indian Studies Center, which remain due to a lack of knowledge about Native communities, including, for example, the fact that Los Angeles is home to the nation’s largest urban Native American population.



This perceived invisibility holds numerous consequences for Native peoples, including perceptions that American Indians are mere historical relics, frozen in time as stereotypically savage, primitive, uniquely-spiritualized and – in the case of Native women – hyper-sexualized objects to be tamed. No Doubt’s recent “Looking Hot” music video, released to fans via its Facebook page on November 2, 2012, is replete with such highly offensive and destructive images of Native peoples in general and Native women specifically.

The music video demonstrates the height of cultural misappropriation and a complete indifference towards and ignorance about contemporary Indian people. The video at once employs Native imagery and symbols, many of which still hold deep spiritual and ceremonial significance for Native Americans – including feathers, tipis, and fire – while at the same time situating such imagery in a (largely inaccurate) set of depictions of Indians at the turn of the century as primitive peoples fighting cowboys (and losing) in the Wild West. In this sense, the video diminishes Native people and Native cultures while, simultaneously, co-opting Indians and indigeneity for exploitative gain. In essence, it represents the grossest kind of cultural misappropriation.

Most importantly, however, the video is rife with imagery that glorifies aggression against Indian people, and, most disturbingly, denigrates and objectifies Native women through scenes of sexualized violence. Much like the 19th century paintings advancing the ethos of manifest destiny – the belief that the United States was destined by God to expand across the continent, bringing civilization and light to a primitive people – the video draws on familiar tropes of the conquest of the continent and, concomitantly, the ravage of the Native female. As lead singer Gwen Stefani writhes, partially dressed (as an Indian) and shackled in ropes while overseen by domineering white men brandishing pistols, today real Native American women in the United States are in a state of crisis.

In Indian country today, Indian nations may not criminally prosecute non-Indians who commit crimes in Indian country, including violent crimes against Native women and girls. In the United States today, approximately one in three American Indian and Alaskan Native women will be raped in their lifetimes. A recent Amnesty International report, “Maze of Injustice,” details the barriers Indian women face in accessing adequate justice systems when they are the victims of violent crime. Additional research studies indicate that certain crimes – such as the rape of Indian women, for example – are primarily perpetrated by non-Indian men. And all American Indians experience victimization from violent crimes at rates more than twice the national average.

Re-authorization of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) would make great strides towards responding to these gross injustices against Native women, by authorizing Indian nations to prosecute non-Indian offenders of domestic violence in limited circumstances.7 VAWA has found strong support, and it resoundingly passed the Senate in May 2012. However, the Act has stalled in the House due to the all-too-familiar political gridlock that holds this, and other meaningful legislation, hostage.

We commend No Doubt, Interscope, and Supersonic for making the decision to pull the “Looking Hot” video immediately from the Internet upon learning of the overwhelming response from the Native community. We also want to make clear that, while No Doubt’s apology claimed to have consulted “Native American studies experts at the University of California,” to our knowledge, no such person from UCLA was consulted about the video prior to its release. Nevertheless, in furtherance of our educational and collaborative mission, we extend to you an invitation to engage with the American Indian Studies Center and the Los Angeles Indian community, as we see this unfortunate incident as presenting an opportunity for growth and mutual understanding.

We welcome an open dialogue and hope you will choose to engage with the Los Angeles Indian community, meet with our Native students and faculty, and/or support our work, which seeks to advance the cause of indigenous peoples everywhere.

Megwetch (Thank you),
Angela R. Riley (Citizen Potawatomi Nation of Oklahoma)
Director, American Indian Studies Center
Professor of Law


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No Doubt removed the video for "Looking Hot" and posted a letter on their FB page:

"As a multi-racial band our foundation is built upon both diversity and consideration for other cultures. Our intention with our new video was never to offend, hurt or trivialize Native American people, their culture or their history. Although we consulted with Native American friends and Native American studies experts at the University of California, we realize now that we have offended people. This is of great concern to us and we are removing the video immediately. The music that inspired us when we started the band, and the community of friends, family, and fans that surrounds us was built upon respect, unity and inclusiveness. We sincerely apologize to the Native American community and anyone else offended by this video. Being hurtful to anyone is simply not who we are. - No Doubt" ONTD POST



Culturally insensitive (in other words RACIST) ONTD members GO!
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mementox 6th-Nov-2012 07:59 am (UTC)
Is there anywhere to watch the video anymore I wanna see the shitshow
mementox 6th-Nov-2012 08:03 am (UTC)
Ty!
scaredsquee 6th-Nov-2012 08:14 am (UTC)
jesus fucking christ. no doubt was my first concert when i was 13. it was their tragic kingdom tour. i've fallen in and out of love with them since then, and ever since gwen pulled that harajuku shit i've side eyed her immensely.

i didn't want to see the video but i went and watched it anyway. holy fuck. as a native american woman i just can't.

the ignorance that was in the halloween posts re: appropriation especially regarding bullshit like lana del rey and her ridiculous excuse ("it was given to me," yeah fuck off bitch) i just can't.

i don't have enough energy and it's not my job to educate the inevitable assholes in this community that will be like THEY'RE JUST ADMIRING/PAYING HOMAGE/HONORING THAT HERITAGE whiney white bullshit.

done.
bighype 6th-Nov-2012 04:15 pm (UTC)
that was so wildly offensive oh my god
licorrice 6th-Nov-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
lol i don't see a single offensive thing about this. if it had been released a year ago, nobody would give a shit. there's just been this huge shift in mentality on the internet lately, PC police and race police making shit up to be mad about. love it.
toilandblood 6th-Nov-2012 08:02 am (UTC)
that's what i wanna know. did they pull the plug on it?
bluecupxxx 6th-Nov-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I didn't see it either when it came out, and then when everyone starting flipping their shit about it I tried to go find it. I don't know if you saw any of this but the only things I came up with were articles calling it "awesome" and "visually stunning" as well as "authentic looking" and "realistic". My face was stuck in a side eye for the rest of that day.
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:00 am (UTC)
Okay, so.. I never got a chance to see it..

and this post is really TL;DR. :/
thanks_phil 6th-Nov-2012 02:48 pm (UTC)
cool story...
roguewave3 6th-Nov-2012 08:00 am (UTC)
Oh my god at that picture....
quietlypixie 16th-Nov-2012 07:35 pm (UTC)
Right?! And people say the vid is in 0 ways offensive. That is the image that comes to mind when I think of this situation.
accioanime 6th-Nov-2012 09:59 am (UTC)
you got your next paper topic ready
hoot 6th-Nov-2012 01:44 pm (UTC)
Oooh, your classes must be really fun right now, lol.
cricketgrl 6th-Nov-2012 01:50 pm (UTC)
I'm wondering if they discuss why White people are ALWAYS claiming they are American Indian if I hear "I'm 1/16 Cherokee" or "My Grandma was full blooded Navaho" one more time I think I'll stick them in the ribs with a rusted knifed.

And these bitches that claim this are the most whitest looking people I have ever seen.
bluecupxxx 6th-Nov-2012 02:16 pm (UTC)
I don't know about in American Native studies classes but I know our sociology class spent a long time on this, and why the mythical ancestor was almost always female. It was funny because prior to doing the class she asked everyone to raise their hands if they had any Native American blood and like half the class put their hands up.
aleksie 6th-Nov-2012 02:29 pm (UTC)
I actually had this discussion with a good friend of mine; it wasn't specifically about Native Americans but how some people will cling to this small fraction of non-European descent, even if they don't look like x race or participate in anything related to that ethnicity.

It was explained to me that people want to have a cultural identity and cling to it. BTW, it wasn't a defense or excuse, just a reasoning.
freeze_i_say 6th-Nov-2012 02:32 pm (UTC)
kinda OT but I want to stab people who in all seriousness over-pronounce words like "Anthony" or "polenta" with a fake Italian accent. You either pronounce every single word derived from another language in the original language's pronunciation (can't wait for "dimokratia" instead of "democracy") or gtfo.
tragickingdomxo 6th-Nov-2012 03:04 pm (UTC)
I went to a pow wow this weekend and the number of white people saying the exact same things was nauseating. My grandma has land on a reservation in Wisconsin, but that's really not enough for me to go around claiming to know all that much about the tribe or what life is like for Native Americans.
sabrinafair1 6th-Nov-2012 03:14 pm (UTC)
I vow never to be one of these people. When I was around 13 I found out that I am a teeny bit Native American (like my great great great grandma was half) and while it was exciting finding out my families background, I never claimed to actually be any amount. I have no idea what tribe, and when people ask me what I am I say half German and half polish. I would feel odd saying Native American since I am so little.
hemsworth 6th-Nov-2012 06:13 pm (UTC)
lol i will be bringing this up to my american native class tomorrow. i'm sure my professor knows about it but i want to hear his opinion on it.
redaodai 6th-Nov-2012 08:05 am (UTC)
Yeah, more like they (the director) consulted tumblr's search engine.

Edited at 2012-11-06 08:11 am (UTC)
jeugd1 6th-Nov-2012 09:39 am (UTC)
LMAO
dannyupshaw 6th-Nov-2012 10:20 am (UTC)
omg
amethystcitrine 6th-Nov-2012 12:34 pm (UTC)
lol
sweet_honesty 7th-Nov-2012 01:03 am (UTC)
Funny because its probably true
mrcelebrity 6th-Nov-2012 08:07 am (UTC)
I'm sad I never got to see the video :(! Is it anywhere online?
powerbottom 6th-Nov-2012 08:08 am (UTC)
It's up on tumblr, just go through the tags and there will be some that were uploaded in pretty good quality.
mrcelebrity 6th-Nov-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
Thank you!
jazzypom scroll down 6th-Nov-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
http://www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/no-doubt-looking-hot-video-premiere/

It's the second one.
ballooon 6th-Nov-2012 08:08 am (UTC)
lmao i was wondering what kind of native americans they consulted cuz that video didn't even attempt to be culturally sensitive
lavish This.6th-Nov-2012 05:35 pm (UTC)
I'm no "expert" but I was horrified within 13 seconds.
myblackass 6th-Nov-2012 05:46 pm (UTC)
The same one who gave Johnny Depp a pass for Tonto?
powerbottom 6th-Nov-2012 08:09 am (UTC)
Whatever, I loved the video.
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:13 am (UTC)
Loving the video and agreeing with it's message are two different things, though. Did you just appreciate the aesthetics? I'm assuming so by your icon.
wigsnatcher 6th-Nov-2012 08:34 am (UTC)
oh lol i see you got your icon <3
roguedandelion 6th-Nov-2012 09:05 am (UTC)
ikr, Nothing can just be fun anymore. Obviously she and Tony were the heroes of the video, not the other band members that were evil cowbows. She's the lead singer. I mean it's a music video, not a visual treatise on race relations.

Edited at 2012-11-06 09:05 am (UTC)
wauwy 6th-Nov-2012 10:16 am (UTC)
nice ikan, stinkworth
elementalranger 6th-Nov-2012 10:38 am (UTC)
lawd, you stay defending ignorance huh?
amethystcitrine 6th-Nov-2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
I mean, it's visually striking but that doesn't excuse the content.
hannita88 6th-Nov-2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
it is SUCH a pretty video...maybe they can shoot another less ignorant one.
sweet_honesty 7th-Nov-2012 01:09 am (UTC)
So the special snowflake comments started on the first page, huh?
calichaos 7th-Nov-2012 05:51 am (UTC)
MTE
_xxtom 6th-Nov-2012 08:09 am (UTC)
Gwen Stefani is a fucking fool.
fred2265 6th-Nov-2012 02:54 pm (UTC)
mte...
glencocko 6th-Nov-2012 08:10 am (UTC)
I just watched it and it didn't seem racist to me. I don't see the harm, and honestly I'm pretty sure No Doubt didn't mean any. idgaf, just downloaded it. It's cute.
roguewave3 6th-Nov-2012 08:21 am (UTC)
lol
superpchan 6th-Nov-2012 08:23 am (UTC)
MTE. It's like some fever dream.
h0tfuss 6th-Nov-2012 08:25 am (UTC)
I think there are probably ways for white people to touch on Native American traditions in a way that is educated and respectful. It's only natural for people to want to explore their national histories, and there's this entire swath of the American narrative that's effectively off-limits to most of the people who live in this country. It's an interesting and sort of sad point of contention for people who are genuinely interested in history and incorporating it into art.

That said, given all of the recent bullshit about hipster racism and war bonnets, I have no idea why any white celebrities would attempt to touch on any Native American themes right now. It's just shitty PR.
ametalheart 6th-Nov-2012 08:27 am (UTC)
I agree.
champagnexdream 6th-Nov-2012 12:20 pm (UTC)
I feel that way too...like if it showed the culture being slaughtered, OK that's fucked up, but...it didn't.
evocates 6th-Nov-2012 12:30 pm (UTC)
Did you even read the post? At least the bolded portions? They explained it.
amethystcitrine 6th-Nov-2012 12:35 pm (UTC)
Did you read the article?
secura 6th-Nov-2012 12:41 pm (UTC)
It doesn't seem racist to you because it isn't targeted at you. I can't even understand how something so overt could be responded with "Well, as a white person, I don't find it racist at all" and them not be laughed out of fucking town.
operation_idol 6th-Nov-2012 12:52 pm (UTC)
You would, Lochte.
warsawed 6th-Nov-2012 02:16 pm (UTC)
what you and these commenters above don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter what YOU think, you aren't a native american. stfu.
harborafternoon 6th-Nov-2012 02:23 pm (UTC)
well, as long as it didn't seem~ racist to you i guess we can all go home now
theflyingbeet 6th-Nov-2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
agree with you
kamikashi 6th-Nov-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
oh was no doubt talking about UCLA that they consulted? i was wondering which UC they were talking about. cuz usually when people only say 'University of California' i generally assume they mean Cal and i felt like if it was Cal i would have heard about it on campus more lol.

and i always thought the proper term was native american, so american indian is fine? i feel like that could be confusing cuz then we have indian-americans in regards to india.
aoyana 6th-Nov-2012 08:16 am (UTC)
I assumed Cal as well, but I guess people could have assumed UCLA since it has a big film program and is near studios? I don't think No Doubt specified. The department just doesn't want to be associated with this ridiculousness.

I'm not Native, so someone else would be better suited to answering this, but I believe the terms are interchangeable/personal preference.
kamikashi 6th-Nov-2012 08:53 am (UTC)
ia. no doubt is a socal band, so perhaps people just assumed UCLA because of that and its usually the UC most talked about with celebs.
but yeah, seems like its personal pref, i just always heard the thing about not calling them indians because they arent from india but then american indian does specify it.
simplychristina 6th-Nov-2012 08:24 am (UTC)
They did not specify UCLA, no. So this statement by this chairperson makes them look worse by saying that because they never claimed it was UCLA.
thesilverymoon 6th-Nov-2012 08:40 am (UTC)
The explanation I've always heard is that most American Indians prefer that term to Native American because Native American can be applied to anyone who was born in America.
My understanding of it is that it's very much personal preference, so if you genuinely don't know what a person would prefer to be called, it might be better to just ask them.
Idk, I could be totally wrong on this (forgive me if I am, I don't mean to offend) but that's just been my experience with the terminology.
roguedandelion 6th-Nov-2012 09:07 am (UTC)
University of California could mean any UC, not just UCLA.
milly 6th-Nov-2012 11:01 am (UTC)
In Canada (well, at least Quebec), most nations use either First Nations or Amerindians (Amérindiens). I worked in a First Nations/Jesuit museum for several years, and lots of Native American people we came in contact with called themselves Indian. One time, this self-righteous WASP lady we were working with for an exhibition got all pissy because the Mohawk man we were working with to develop outdoors activities with referred to himself and his friends as Indians. She actually called him out on it, the fucking nerve. I guess she missed the memo that someone can refer to themselves and their own race/ethnicity/culture by whichever name they prefer, no matter what the politically correct/academically approved term is.

Edited at 2012-11-06 11:02 am (UTC)
silverstarry 6th-Nov-2012 11:58 am (UTC)
As an almost lifelong California resident, when people say University of California without a specific city, that means either the Cal/Berkeley campus or the entire UC system so while I understand everything that the UCLA guy is saying, it was stupid that he assumed No Doubt was referring to UCLA. Even when I lived in Los Angeles, no one ever referred to UCLA as the University of California.
nicholasdee 6th-Nov-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
They didn't specify UCLA, but UCLA's program is pretty well known. Also, considering the fact that they are in LA, it makes more sense than another.

I am going to guess after they released the statement, UCLA's program got hit with a ton of questions from students, colleagues and others about it, and they felt they needed to respond.

IDKY people are saying UCLA is jumping to conclusions about this, their statement is appropriate
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:11 am (UTC)
This is pretty shocking, considering the fact that No Doubt, at least in my opinion, has usually been pretty culturally inclusive and not at all insensitive.

Idk, maybe I'm wrong.
superpchan 6th-Nov-2012 08:14 am (UTC)
I can't recall No Doubt's other members being insensitive, but Gwen herself is not that innocent (the Harajuku Girls alone...).
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:17 am (UTC)
Yeah.. I always saw them, despite it not being her intention, as being her asian slave entourage.. or something creepy like that.

I'm sure Gwen considers herself quite cultured and not ignorant at all. :/
mynamehere07 6th-Nov-2012 08:18 am (UTC)
I think a lot of people would disagree that their "cultural inclusiveness" is appropriate.

In the 90's Gwen wore a bindi and shrugged it off when people pointed it out.

The Harajuku girls during L.A.M.B was blatantly horrible.

I think if she/they want to have "cultural inclusion" or "cultural integration" the need to do in an appropriate manner. So far, their "cultural integration" is just reinforcing stereotypes at best, and gross misappropriation at worst.
withoutyoursmil 6th-Nov-2012 01:05 pm (UTC)
gwen is very racially and culturally insensitive
mynamehere07 6th-Nov-2012 08:12 am (UTC)
In Indian country today, Indian nations may not criminally prosecute non-Indians who commit crimes in Indian country, including violent crimes against Native women and girls.

That is truly horrible. Why can't they be prosecuted?
kalie_m 6th-Nov-2012 08:15 am (UTC)
I'm curious about that, too. The rate at which Native American women will face stalking, assault, rape, domestic violence, and murder is really incredibly shocking.
mynamehere07 6th-Nov-2012 08:32 am (UTC)
smh.

Thank you.
amethystcitrine 6th-Nov-2012 12:37 pm (UTC)
TY for the link but ugh fuck life.
platinum_yum 6th-Nov-2012 11:08 am (UTC)
Just to clarify, it's not that they can't be prosecuted at all. It's just that the tribe doesn't have jurisdiction. The federal government has jurisdiction over felonies that occur on tribal lands.
maria1221 6th-Nov-2012 02:56 pm (UTC)
For the same reasons crimes committed on Native lands cannot be prosecuted by law enforcement outside the area, tribal lands have their own enforcement set up.

Sadly, what's happening to Native women is also happening here in South Texas, except it's undocumented workers and their children by Americans---they don't come forward because they fear deportation.

10 to 1 says sex offenders are intentionally targeting Native women because they know they cannot be prosecuted by Native law enforcement and IF the crime takes place on the reservation, local law enforcement cannot prosecute because it's out of their jurisdiction.

It's so fucked.
lovemusique85 6th-Nov-2012 08:13 am (UTC)
They already apologized and took the video down the same day it premiered. Everyone is trying to jump on that hater bandwagon.
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:14 am (UTC)
I hate that shit. Just beating a dead horse.
ametalheart 6th-Nov-2012 08:27 am (UTC)
Exactly. Didn't they get what they wanted?
superpchan 6th-Nov-2012 08:36 am (UTC)
I think the the point of the situation is to learn and educate. Not just a quick "Sorry, let's move on without any discussion". That just creates more ignorance and less understanding of why people were offended. The fact that a lot of people aren't willing to truly discuss this is why it keeps happening. They just want to brush it under a rug piled on top of many other similar and offensive incidents.
roguedandelion 6th-Nov-2012 09:10 am (UTC)
Ikr.
thedpmiss 6th-Nov-2012 09:07 am (UTC)
I guess because this is not the first time Gwen Stefani has been linked to cultural appropriation before.
wauwy 6th-Nov-2012 10:19 am (UTC)
Everyone is trying to jump on that hater bandwagon.

so tragic

you might even call it a kingdom of tragedy
or perhaps a.... tragic kingdom
amethystcitrine 6th-Nov-2012 12:38 pm (UTC)
Yes they did but that doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it. This article is very reasonable with its observations without being inflammatory.
withoutyoursmil 6th-Nov-2012 01:06 pm (UTC)
that doesn't mean the situation should be swept under the rug and ignored. discussion is important.
starcrossedkiss 6th-Nov-2012 01:10 pm (UTC)
no shit
16_bit_goddess 6th-Nov-2012 04:47 pm (UTC)
truth. I was rme at comments on that ontd post about how they removed it and apologized because you could tell certain people were just reaching for reasons to still be pissed. as if they'd prefer that the band didn't apologize just so they could have an excuse to stay mad.

this particular article is great, though. very informative and astute in explaining the problems with the video.
sweet_honesty 7th-Nov-2012 01:14 am (UTC)
That's lovely but they still made the video in the first place
mrcelebrity 6th-Nov-2012 08:15 am (UTC)
Where is chikntetrazzini and her racist supernatural icon to give her input on this situation?
ptizzy 6th-Nov-2012 08:18 am (UTC)
LOL!
chikntetrazzini 6th-Nov-2012 11:58 am (UTC)
Here I am!!!!
thishollywood 6th-Nov-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
u always make holiday times the best :) :) :)
shanny_w 6th-Nov-2012 07:02 pm (UTC)
lol hai
freeze_i_say 6th-Nov-2012 02:37 pm (UTC)
lol
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