ONTD

1:36 am - 10/19/2012

Digital Spy's Ten Teasers for Episode 6 of Downton Abbey


Pensive Mary invites you into the post.




1. Ethel's determined to do something about her rubbish cooking... but will her plans get someone else into trouble? [Mrs. Patmore might get in trouble with Crason as per the trailer.]

2. Daisy gets an intriguing offer (and no, it's nothing to do with that love triangle.) [Maybe she gets offered the job of being Isobel's cook?]

3. There's discussion of religion at the dinner table (and Robert ends up "flabbergasted".) [Yeah, yeah. We already know about the christening debate.]

4. We'll find out what Tom plans to call his baby daughter - but not everyone is happy about it. [Reportedly he's naming her after Sybil which I am not a huge fan of tbh. It makes it seem like she's a replacement.]

5. Violet's scheming yet again - but this time, she's trying to do something good. I know! [We know she's trying to help Robert and Cora fix their marriage.]

6. "It's so nice of you to say '**'." [LOL A TWO LETTER WORD. IT'S GOTTA BE 'NO'.]

7. Dr Clarkson is challenged to betray his ethics for the greater good. Will he go through with it? [I have no idea what this is going to be about.]

8. A foxtrot could lead to tears before bedtime. [THIS INTRIGUES ME. Maybe Daisy sees Alfred foxtrotting with Ivy? IDK.]

9. Anna warns Bates not to do anything "stupid" after a hitch in their Free Bates plan. Whether he listens to her or not is another matter. [HERE'S HOPING BATES GETS HIMSELF INTO TROUBLE!]

10. "It seems petty to miss such a good *******." [Any other detectives want to try to figure this one out?]

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I am not here for the lack of Mary in these teasers. She needs a proper storyline soon!
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qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 12:24 pm (UTC)
i think it's lovely if Tom names the baby Sybil - why shouldn't he? she'll grow up knowing she was named after her mother. i like it.

also? if Robert gets his way over the christening, i will fucking cut a bitch.

zero fucks given about Bates, someone shank him already.
fred2265 19th-Oct-2012 12:58 pm (UTC)
I think Sybil would be a wonderful name also...
skeet_skeet 19th-Oct-2012 01:36 pm (UTC)
Flopbert isn't getting his way in the christening thing and you know it.
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
Trollowes would do it....i wouldn't put anything past him
ladyfly56 19th-Oct-2012 12:44 pm (UTC)
6. lol really it can only be no or hi

7. idk maybe something involving Mary and the infertility plot, and her mysterious doctors visit for her ~hay fever.

no fucking clue about the last one

i hope Bates ends up murdering his cell mate and ends up having to stay in prison forever for real.

Edited at 2012-10-19 12:45 pm (UTC)
moon_very_thin 19th-Oct-2012 01:23 pm (UTC)
Bates could shank his cell mate, and then spin Anna some story about how it couldn't possibly have been him and the cell mate obviously committed suicide in order to frame him.

The scales fall from her eyes, and Anna walks the hell away.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 02:07 pm (UTC)
This would redeem the whole Bates storyline for me. Your idea before about him being a post-modern reality warper was one of the best I have ever heard.
the_pinkdress 19th-Oct-2012 02:41 pm (UTC)
could also be "so" or "it".
fauxkaren 19th-Oct-2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
OOOH. I LIKE YOUR SPECULATION FOR #7.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 12:45 pm (UTC)
First off, I must say that I liked the photo I put on the ONTD_Downton 'before the cut' post better :P but yours is a (very) close second!

And now, on to my guesses....

1. Well, I'm guessing from the promo that this refers to Mrs. Patmore and the sneaky cooking lessons which are discovered by moral police!Carson.

2. OMG. AN OFFER FOR DAISY. OMGG. IS IT TO BE COOK SOMEWHERE???

3. This is about Baby Branson being Catholic, I'll bet, and Flobert, Earl of Clueless will be flabbergasted that everyone is telling him to shut the fuck up about it and let the baby's parent choose how she is christened.

4. I'm so glad someone is unhappy about him calling the baby 'Sybil', mostly because I hate 'person junior' names, and that hatred only intensifies once the person in question is deceased.

5. Violet scheming against her flop son re: the Christening? We can only hope. Worst case scenario is that it's to repair Cora and Robert's marriage, which I dnw as it will inevitably lead to Cora apologising to HIM, when he is the cheating, stupid, patriarchal dick who is the author of all his misfortune.

6. No idea?

7. This sounds...interesting. Maybe he's called to testify in a civil suit against that even more floppy doctor who is responsible via malpractice for Sybil's death?

8. Maybe this involves the love quadrangle dancing and Ivy is upset that Jimmy dances with Daisy? Or Daisy is upset that Alfred dances with Ivy? Or Alfred is sad Ivy dances with Jimmy?

9. HAHAHAHA. It's Bates. Of course he doesn't listen to Anna about it, because he is a fuck and he has NEVER listened to her, EVER, in the past .#hangbates (als, seriously, think about it. He's always dismissing the things she says. UGH. GO AWAY BATES)

10. Matthew to Mary/Mary to Matthew about something?

Edited at 2012-10-19 12:46 pm (UTC)
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 12:54 pm (UTC)
Worst case scenario is that it's to repair Cora and Robert's marriage, which I dnw as it will inevitably lead to Cora apologising to HIM, when he is the cheating, stupid, patriarchal dick who is the author of all his misfortune.

chaosbb 19th-Oct-2012 12:59 pm (UTC)
Seconded, everything about this comment is flawless
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 01:00 pm (UTC)
Haha, thank you! I love your icon - Sylvia is queen. (and, I also am a fan of your Australia and Ser Jorah's hotness stanning)
jollygoodthat 19th-Oct-2012 01:41 pm (UTC)
bb i have missed your flawless spot-on comments so much! ;___; I have had almost no time for LJ, are you on twitter or something? I need your pithiness in my life tbh #hangbates
fauxkaren 19th-Oct-2012 04:54 pm (UTC)
I've embarked on a "Picspam Every Episode of Downton Abbey" project, so for the foreseeable future, all my before the cut pics are going to be random caps that I've edited for that project. XD And me being me, there is a lot of Mary.

4. Same, same. Well, I mildly dislike person junior names when the person is living. But when they're dead (especially recently deceased), it's feels like you're replacing the dead person with the new one and yeah. idk. I don't lie it.
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 01:02 pm (UTC)
still not over last week, in fact i'm pretty sure i'm traumatised forever

lunchbag 19th-Oct-2012 01:13 pm (UTC)
YEP, same here tbh. i'm going through the grief stages, right now i'm at anger. WHY did she have to die? no really though, any solid explanations why the writers thought this just had to happen?!
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 01:25 pm (UTC)
honestly, i don't get it. shock factor, that's all i can think of. its just really lazy writing, they could have done so much more with her character but instead they did that. nope, not over it at all.
ladyfly56 19th-Oct-2012 01:29 pm (UTC)
the actress wanted to leave
moon_very_thin 19th-Oct-2012 02:36 pm (UTC)
I think Fellowes is bad at inter-character conflict. Underneath, all his characters are basically decent (which is a worldview for which I have a lot of time). Unfortunately, he shies away from the problems arising due to misunderstandings between well-intentioned people. In Fellowes' world, when it comes right down to the line everyone will really turn out to be on the same side.

So he needs external events to power his plot. Death, inheritances, disease, war, the odd two-dimensional villain - they can shake things up without challenging the status quo.

Killing off 'the sweet one' has always been good for an injection of melodrama. Lots of emotional pay-off, not much risk of moral-relativism. Having made her expendable by giving her an opinion-ectomy all season, Sybil fit the bill.

Edited at 2012-10-19 02:40 pm (UTC)
the_pinkdress 19th-Oct-2012 02:46 pm (UTC)
elizabeth mcgovern hinted that JBF wanted out.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 01:30 pm (UTC)
I agree - and, JBF wanting to leave aside, it was such an unnecessary death, just to create 'drama' which could have just as easily been created with her alive. There were so may ways her character could have developed, and it was sad to see her so underwritten even before she died.
joyeuxcherie When are the following going to get some:19th-Oct-2012 01:15 pm (UTC)
Thomas
Daisy
Edith
Matthew...get that baby making going
Anna (someone older, better looking, or younger better looking idc. she deserves better)
qween_tartii Re: When are the following going to get some:19th-Oct-2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
oh man if Thomas starts getting decent tail i will be watching those episodes on repeat until my eyes explode. no shame.
joyeuxcherie Re: When are the following going to get some:19th-Oct-2012 01:21 pm (UTC)
Thomas isn't perfect but I think he's better than when he was before (despite the murder and all that). He deserves some action.

Edited at 2012-10-19 01:22 pm (UTC)
spankmypirate Re: When are the following going to get some:19th-Oct-2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
lol same

I can't believe the hottest guy on the show isn't getting any action. smh
joaniemaloney Re: When are the following going to get some:19th-Oct-2012 09:39 pm (UTC)
oh man, I would flip out if they found another interest for Anna. but with how they've written the storyline, that is never going to happen.
m_pendulum 19th-Oct-2012 01:16 pm (UTC)
I was named after my grandmother right after she died so I think it's just an emotionally thing. I mean I don't like Branson, but I don't see anything wrong with this.
juteux 19th-Oct-2012 01:20 pm (UTC)
and I think it was a lot more common back then to name children after their parents.
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 01:29 pm (UTC)
definitely - especially boys.

naming a daughter after her mother is something Sybil would have appreciated, i think.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 01:36 pm (UTC)
It definitely was far more common. And I think if someone you love dies just before/after you have a child it's a very natural emotional reaction to name your child in part after them.

Still not a big fan, though - I wouldn't mind if it was a middle name, but the first name is a bit much IMO.
biliki 19th-Oct-2012 01:28 pm (UTC)
Being named after our grandparents is very common in my country (Greece).
It's the most common naming process, actually, but now many people can just choose names they like for their children. (We're kinda traditional, to the point where grandparents would fight for their name to be given to a child, or not talk to their kids if it didn;t happen, etc., but now most grandparents don't really care and let their children name their kids the way they want)

But being named after your parent is a different thing. It is very rare here, much rarer than the USA/UK etc., from what I've gathered, and it's also considered very bad luck. There is a saying that, if a parent and a child have the same name, one of them will die [:/] ''beofre their time'', and I've actually heard it happen.

And anyway, I find it really stupid! I had a friend once who had two older brothers who were named after his male grandparents, and since there were ''no other names left'', they named him after his own father. Everyone is fine, but anyway, it's considered very weird here.
skeet_skeet 19th-Oct-2012 01:39 pm (UTC)
I was born within three months of my grandmother's passing and was named after her. I have no issue with it, in fact I'm honored to have been named after someone so universally beloved in my family.
juteux 19th-Oct-2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
I find it hilarious that the new kitchen maid is named Ivy and she looks exactly like Daisy.
jollygoodthat 19th-Oct-2012 01:43 pm (UTC)
haha ikr, i actually sometimes get them mixed up for a second!
qween_tartii 19th-Oct-2012 02:12 pm (UTC)
i saw a promo pic and was all "holy fuck why are there two Daisies?"

disturbing, tbh.
snoozeen 19th-Oct-2012 01:21 pm (UTC)
I have no problem with the baby being named after her dead mother.

Then again, I'm Jewish and everyone is named after someone in our family who has passed. Between my name and my Jewish name, I'm named after four--two great grandmothers, my grandmother, and my great aunt. I think it's special, tbh.
la_petite_singe 19th-Oct-2012 01:23 pm (UTC)
Didn't we hear Tom saying "Sybil will be a Catholic, like her father" in the promo? I thought we knew she was being named after her mother. I could be wrong, though.

moar Thomas/Jimmy plz
thisampersand 19th-Oct-2012 01:49 pm (UTC)
Yeah I definitely heard that in the promo as well.

I can't root for Thomas/Jimmy it will only end in tears smh
mistress_f 19th-Oct-2012 02:19 pm (UTC)
i hate jimmy. thomas needs to get laid but with someone better. i don't even see the ~beauty that everyone's seeing in him
joyeuxcherie Can someone correct me on this...19th-Oct-2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
I got the impression that Pamuk was murdered...hence the forced heart attack. Unless he was in bad health prior and that the activities with Mary were what caused it?
the_pinkdress Re: Can someone correct me on this...19th-Oct-2012 02:49 pm (UTC)
no, he actually had a heart attack or something, he wasn't murdered.
yurasama_love Re: Can someone correct me on this...19th-Oct-2012 03:34 pm (UTC)
I figure he had an aneurysm. Didn't see the actual death, so who knows?
moon_very_thin Re: Can someone correct me on this...19th-Oct-2012 04:02 pm (UTC)
Edith Napier poisoned him, for reasons political. (Perhaps the Napiers have a financial interest in the Turkish status quo.) Sure, Bates said that poisoning Pamuk would be impossible because you'd have to get past Mrs Patmore, but in the very episode where he said that we see that Patmore had cataracts, so that wasn't a problem.

Evelyn decided to off Pamuk at Downton because he knew Robert would be the sort to try to keep things quiet to avoid scandal or publicity. Plus, the local medical man was an employee of the estate and unlikely to kick up a fuss about an inquest. Especially if Evelyn sowed seeds in the right ears about heart trouble or something. Having gotten Pamuk's manservant out of the way with a little more subtle poisoning, they head for Yorkshire.

Evelyn couldn't believe his luck at how well it went down. Even he didn't imagine they'd hush up the death so quickly as to have the body out of the house and buried before it was even cold.

It wasn't until later when Edith's letter reached London and rumours began to spread that he began to suspect why the Crawleys might have moved so quickly. As damage control he makes sure Mary knows where the London rumours came from. If anyone were to suspect he was the source they might start asking uncomfortable questions. Plus, he needs the Crawleys to know about the potential scandal so they can quash questions asap.

Unfortunately, the rumours get out of hand and this Vera Bates seems to have evidence that Pamuk died in Mary Crawley's bed. Evelyn panics - publicity might mean questions about the exact circumstances of Pamuk's death. What if there's an enquiry? Or an exhumation? Much easier to shut Vera up and head off the risk. After all, he rightly figures that her violent drunk ex-con adulterous husband will take the blame. And he hopes self-interest will continue to distract the Crawleys from looking beyond Mary's reputation to the real crime.

Just kidding. Pamuk died of SADS and Vera murdered herself.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 01:26 pm (UTC)
6 could be 'It's so nice of you to say so'?
shigureblack 19th-Oct-2012 01:30 pm (UTC)
I cant wait for this weeks episode so much!! I still cant get over last weeks, it was a shocker I really did not think they would kill her off.

Can we talk about how significant Cora has been this season. She really shines as a mother, and as a compassionate character in regards with Mrs. Hughes. I am so glad Fellows gave her more screen time.
spankmypirate 19th-Oct-2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
I have a feeling that Jimmy & Ivy might elope leaving a heartbroken Alfred in the arms of Daisy and the footman spot wide open for him. idk how O'Brien's machinations would fit in here but poor bb Thomas is about to get played big time imo :( #SaveThomas

I'm really bad at spec (the only thing I got right was Edith getting into writing)

I am so beyond tired of Flopbert, I hope the backlash he receives actually lasts more than one episode. #SaveBranson

Before the series is over, I want to hear Matthew say the word 'penis'. #SaveMary before she gets a nervous breakdown.

I literally cannot be arsed to think up anything that would happen to Bates, because I just don't care. #HangBates
skeet_skeet 19th-Oct-2012 01:40 pm (UTC)
I just want Bates dead, lbr. I don't even watch any of his scenes.
spankmypirate 19th-Oct-2012 01:44 pm (UTC)
lol same. I just FF/change the tab when one of his scenes come on, I have no idea what's happening with his storyline this year.
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 01:40 pm (UTC)
My theory re: Jimmy is that he is a) straight and b) a troll/ambitious, so he'll flirt with Ivy and keep in with Thomas to further his own advancement and then will be subtly pushed by O'B into cOmplaining about Thomas's 'subtle' advances toward him and thus out Thomas to everyone.

And it will break me.
jollygoodthat 19th-Oct-2012 01:47 pm (UTC)
i actually wondered if Jimmy might be gay (or lean that way) and he wants Thomas' attentions off of him so as not to ~out him, because he gets a lot of perks in his position from being a ladies' man? idk idk ... may be wishful thinking haha. also he didn't really answer ivy and i thought kind of blew her off but then again that's exactly the kind of man I'm attracted to ... although on the other hand sometimes they DO turn out to be gay! ;)
johnjie 19th-Oct-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
That is actually a really good perspective on it, and way more satisfying than my current theory...
moon_very_thin 19th-Oct-2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
I'm leaning more towards this line of thinking after seeing the interview on Good Morning today.
ladyfly56 19th-Oct-2012 01:45 pm (UTC)
can we just have an episode where everyone just lays into Flobert?

like, the entire 48 minutes is just Robert sitting on the couch, and everyone stands over him and bitches him out about all various shit he's pulled.

and than Jane shows up and reveals their affair for the lulz.

because i'd watch that.

Edited at 2012-10-19 01:46 pm (UTC)
jollygoodthat 19th-Oct-2012 01:47 pm (UTC)
a roast!
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