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8:27 pm - 10/18/2012

the insider: demi lovato "I’m sure I was a little brat back then"

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We all remember when Lindsay Lohan was bullied by Regina George in Mean Girls. They were right: The term "fetch" never did quite catch on, but our favorite Lohan movie does touch on something real: how much girl-to-girl bullying really does suck. Demi Lovato and Secret Deodorant took action against all of that drama by starting their own campaign, "Mean Stinks." Yes, it gives girls a new antiperspirant scent (appropriately named Fearlessly Fresh), but it also empowers young women to "gang up for good." And if you're looking for safe place to talk it out and get support while you through it, there's that too. 

We've already been there and can promise you that mean girls don't finish first—we're all super nice and look how cool we are! Demi told us about how she was bullied, how it affected her and how she pulled through.

How'd you get on board with Secret's anti-bullying campaign?
They approached me because they knew that I’m an activist for anti-bullying. It’s something that I went through myself, and it affected my life, so I wanted to make sure that more people are aware that gossiping and spreading rumors and things like that. Things that girls probably thought was innocent in school actually led to problems that affected me down the road. I actually use Secret, so it was cool that they came to me with this. We both believe in trying to spread the awareness about bullying. We thought it was a perfect opportunity to get the message out there. Even though the campaign is called "Mean Stinks" the deodorant does smell good!



I’m sure you’re so sick of talking about it at this point, but can you tell me about what happened?
Yeah! I was bullied—and I’m not trying to play the victim. When you’re twelve you engage in gossip, rumors, and things like that, so I wasn’t bullied for no reason. I’m sure I was a little brat back then, but no one deserves to be bullied to the extent that I was bullied. They had a “Demi’s Hate Wall” in the bathroom where they wrote things like, “Demi is a whore” and “Demi is a slut.”

Were you bullied by boys or other girls?
It was girls. It was in the girls’ bathroom. I think I had just had my first kiss a couple of months prior, so it didn’t make sense. It doesn’t bother me anymore, but they just chased me into a bathroom and had a bashing party. They had a petition and they wrote a bunch of nasty things on a piece of paper so that everyone to sign. It led to other problems down the road. At the time I was really confused as to why I was being bullied, so I just went off the things they were saying about me. I thought, "I guess I’m being bullied because I’m a slut." I actually took those things into consideration because I was so confused as to why this was happening. And one of the reasons why I thought they were bullying me and why I had no friends was because I was called “fat.” Right after I was bullied, I stopped eating and lost thirty pounds. I got really sick and it’s something that I still have to deal with today. I ended up going into treatment for it when I was eighteen. I don’t think those girls even realized how much they affected me when I was eleven or twelve or how serious. You think that it's just gossip between friends and that it isn't harmful.

Why do you think that bullying has gotten to be this bad?
I think that it’s reached a new level because of cyber bullying. I know a lot of adults who talk about bullying and say, “we had one mean bully in school.” You can say a lot behind a computer screen that will hurt another person and it’s embarrassing because it’s in front of so many people. So if somebody says something about you on Twitter about you it's out there for the whole grade to see. It also has to do with reality TV shows that are just about fighting.

It creates a culture of bitchiness.
Right—creating a culture of bitchiness. That’s going to influence younger girls who are watching those shows because it teaches them that drama is what’s
exciting. I’ve learned that surrounding myself with positive people and people that don’t engage in any gossip or drama whatsoever—that’s more exciting than having to deal with all of that.

And we’re so fragile at that age, which makes things even more difficult. 
You’re growing up, your body is changing. You don’t really figure out who you are when you’re 12-years-old, but you’re trying to figure out what clique you fit into and who your friends are. I went through tons of different phases: a goth phase, a preppy stage…but now I've figured out who I am. I’ve got a lot of learning to do, but I’m in a good place now.

So you've decided who you are? Who is that person? 
As long as you have a good sense of your morals, what you stand for, how you want to treat other people, what’s important to you, and what you love—then you have it all figured out.

So you decided that you didn't need to label yourself as "goth" or be part of a specific group?
No. It’s not about labels at all. Some days I like to wear all black, some days I like to wear no makeup and look like a Hippie. My style changes. That being said, day-to-day I'm consistent with my morals and the things that I believe in—my passions and my hobbies. And I’m consistent with my friends and family as well.

Have you gotten feedback from any of the girls who have identified you as a role model or whose lives you've impacted?
There’s been girls that I’ve met at concerts and meet-and-greets who have told me that I’ve influenced their lives by being an inspiration—by getting through bulling and letting people know how serious it is. That means the world to me. There’s something about having younger cousins at that age, or other young girls in my life who are at risk of being bullied. I feel very protective over them. I have a little sister, and a cousin who has gone through this stuff. It was incredible that I was able to help them. I’m able to be there for my sister if she’s ever bullied and I’m able to be there for my cousins. I’m just excited to be able to do that.

Has has your music career and fame helped you make the changes you wanted to make?
I have changed and I’m continuing to change. Nobody ever stays the same. So the person that I was six months ago is not the person that I am today. Thankfully it’s just because I’ve continued to work on myself and better myself. I’ve learned more about what’s important to me. I’ve learned that family is more important to me than anything career-wise. I’ve learned my goals. I don’t really like singing certain songs anymore because they’re too pop and they don’t really express who I am musically.

Do you want to switch genres completely? Or do you want to remain pop, but with a more mature sound?
Yeah. It’s still going to be pop. But I want to stay away from EDM [electronic dance music] and the dub step. I want to hear real music instruments on
the radio. I think there’s a way of combining that with catchy hooks. Fun. does it well. So does Gotye and Taylor Swift—there are still instruments in their songs.

What's the one piece of advice you'd give to girls to help them stand up for themselves?
You don't have to stand up for yourself—it's really about turning the other cheek. It's easier said than done, but my mom told me that, and it’s true. When you don’t give them a reaction, they don’t get the satisfaction of hurting you because you don’t show them that it’s hurting you. Go through it, process it, and talk to somebody. But don’t stoop down to their level. Try to turn it into motivation by focusing on your schooling, your favorite hobbies, or your passion. I did that with music when I was bullied. I turned the other cheek. I put all of that negative energy and all of my free time towards becoming a better musician and actress. And here I am today! Focus on the things that you love and maybe one day you’ll end up in the same situation that I did.

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tiddlywinks103 19th-Oct-2012 12:37 am (UTC)
Back then? You mean like a year ago, when you punched someone in the face for *maybe* talking about you to the press?

I'm sure she's all about this project, and it's a good one, but let's not act like all that's sooooooo far behind you, lady. And I like your voice, but your typical attitude is pure funkiness, boo boo.


Edited at 2012-10-19 12:37 am (UTC)
yououghtaknow 19th-Oct-2012 12:44 am (UTC)
lol you have no idea what the hell you are talking about so just stop
tiddlywinks103 19th-Oct-2012 12:48 am (UTC)
Oh, did she not punch someone? Am I wrong?
yououghtaknow 19th-Oct-2012 12:53 am (UTC)
First of all

A she punched someone because she had a manic break and she was in a bad state of mind she thought the girl was telling her MANAGMENT not the press about her issues. Second that is not bullying she has talked about that incident NUMEROUS TIMES. She paid the girl what she wanted. Bullying =/= mental break. She took 100 % for the indecent so just stawp.

ff to 5:00



Edited at 2012-10-19 12:54 am (UTC)
melissa_ivory 19th-Oct-2012 05:24 pm (UTC)
Yes, you're right, but she is also referring to before her stardom and during her time with Disney, which for her now, seems some time ago.

Stop acting like a celebrity's life is only what's in the spotlight and reading into their words unnecessarily. It's rather rude.
d00ditsemily 19th-Oct-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
She had a manic episode. She didn't know she had bipolar disorder. She has admitted hitting her back up dancer was wrong of her. Let's not deal low blows to someone who suffered a bipolar episode.
oceanhue 19th-Oct-2012 12:37 am (UTC)
I'm sure I was a little cunt in the past, the only difference is that now I'm aware of my bitchiness and I don't play a victim anymore, hehe
yououghtaknow 19th-Oct-2012 12:45 am (UTC)
Did you even read the interview?
oceanhue 19th-Oct-2012 01:34 am (UTC)
Obviously not RME
atheistkathleen 19th-Oct-2012 12:40 am (UTC)
I read the book Mean Girls was based on, Queen Bees and Wannabes, it was really good.

Also, J. Alexander's book Follow the Model is really good and has some great advice about bullying in it.

"turn the other cheek, don't give them a reaction" is not good advice IMO, you should be direct and speak up for yourself
inthedirtyrain 19th-Oct-2012 12:46 am (UTC)
My grandma found it in an old book store and gave it to me for my birthday. It's a good book Rosalind Wiseman's Queen Bees and Wannabes.
kawaiisis86 19th-Oct-2012 12:47 am (UTC)
I agree, I used Queen Bees and Girl Left Out for my last project in University. That model of popularity (the triangle) is VERY real and it's kind of sad how females use all that tactical shit just to be popular. As Chris Rock said, women could be ruling the world. If they didn't hate each other.
daddyissues 19th-Oct-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
no one in my high school cared about being ~popular~ and i went to an all-girls school
kawaiisis86 19th-Oct-2012 01:07 am (UTC)
TBH I find this shit is more prevalent in mixed schools. Girls snake each other out for guys.

also where is your icon from?
kawaiisis86 19th-Oct-2012 02:08 am (UTC)
Amen, girls do all kinds of extra just to be in with the popular boys and to get a boyfriend.
I find girls in same-sex schools (I went to both types) to be thirsty for guys in general but there is no real incentive inside of school to be so vicious. Talking from experience all the huge beefs that kicked off in school between females always started with some guy. smh.
daddyissues 19th-Oct-2012 11:45 am (UTC)
ahh i see. i guess i'm a bit blind to that since i was in all-girls for highschool and sixth form lol. i can see it tho, kinda... in that i find it harder to make girl friends now (at uni) because they focus their attn on the guys (frustrating because i connect with girls way better :()

my icon is eden (played by annalynne mccord) from nip/tuck.
specific scene:
kawaiisis86 19th-Oct-2012 12:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah I'm the same, I'm a real girls girl because I have three sisters so I do spend a lot of time trying to iron out beefs between women because I think we need to stick together.

Guys love to divide us for their egos though.

Also I thought it was from that episode! I remember seeing her for the first time in Nip/Tuck and thinking she was so striking and when she asked Sean to be her daddy it was so creepy but kind of sexy LOL!

I'm surprised Ryan Murphy didn't cast her in something else of his because she was especially hot back then. I find her too rail thin these days.
iheartfamke 19th-Oct-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
Was?

Lol oh Demetria.
soavantgarde 19th-Oct-2012 12:49 am (UTC)
"mean stinks"?

lol u tried it, secret

but good 4 demi for speaking out about bullying
yououghtaknow 19th-Oct-2012 12:55 am (UTC)
ilouboutin 19th-Oct-2012 12:52 am (UTC)
dove > secret.

however, i always liked her music but the "stay strong" doc on MTV sorta made me a fangirl for a minute. i don't know what this comment is.
katiese93 19th-Oct-2012 12:53 am (UTC)
I've been listening to "Give Your Heart A Break" all day. Love that song so much right now.
ilouboutin 19th-Oct-2012 12:57 am (UTC)
love that song. i wished she would have released more songs from the Unbroken album. my favorite is "lightweight" <3
thetxbelle 19th-Oct-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
Wasn't there a post a long time ago and someone posted first hand knowledge or someone's account of how she was a bully in middle school or something like that?

IDK but I'm happy for her that she's taking care of herself and appears to be stable.
broken_organ 19th-Oct-2012 01:17 am (UTC)
Came here to say the same thing. Apparently she was awful.
blckcelebrtion 19th-Oct-2012 01:53 am (UTC)
yeah, i'm curious about that too. them receipts.
thetxbelle 19th-Oct-2012 02:13 am (UTC)
This was one girls account about being repeatedly bullied by Demi and I think some of Demi's friends but I have no idea if it's true, fwiw I think a majority of kids who are bullied don't fight back.
melissa_ivory 19th-Oct-2012 05:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I remember that, and Demi's response was that she was trying to defend herself, which was the wrong thing to do, hence her comment in this interview. When people do fight back to their bullying, they can be seen as the bully themselves, especially by authority figures who never witness the real bully in action, and I think that's what happened here.
insomniachobs 19th-Oct-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
It depends a bit... there is a manner of bullying that happens within these 'friendship' groups where they're competing for somebody's attention/scrambling for position etc where girls can switch between being victim and instigator in about five seconds flat (the Plastics in Mean Girls may be wildly exaggerated but they're a pretty good example)

Though of course there are plenty of kids who just try to make themselves as small and unnoticeable as possible to avoid it - fighting back would be the last thing they'd want
thetxbelle 20th-Oct-2012 01:04 am (UTC)
Have you read "Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls"? It's pretty interesting and talks about that a lot.
insomniachobs 20th-Oct-2012 01:28 am (UTC)
Funnily enough it was another ONTD post that pointed me to it - definitely a lot of food for thought in there, but when she talked about that I was nodding my head at light speed.
thevml 19th-Oct-2012 01:19 pm (UTC)
THIS
wendilili 19th-Oct-2012 10:53 pm (UTC)
"first hand knowledge" lol stop
thetxbelle 20th-Oct-2012 01:02 am (UTC)
It's not like I'm siding with this person, I'm just talking about something that was posted on ONTD...
wendilili 21st-Oct-2012 03:19 pm (UTC)
That alone makes it an unreliable source.
trixx_r4_kidz 19th-Oct-2012 01:39 am (UTC)
She is really maturing. I'm so proud of her and the awareness/skills she has now from getting her life together in such a short amount of time (ofc a work in progress though). This is really inspiring to me!
prophecypro 19th-Oct-2012 02:19 am (UTC)
She's grown up to be pretty gorgeous looking
yamcha 19th-Oct-2012 02:52 am (UTC)
I used to hate her but now I like her a lot.
melissa_ivory 19th-Oct-2012 05:32 pm (UTC)
I have to applaud her honesty about her own bullying, as well as her growth. She is a positive role model in many ways, and I think it sad that some people I know have judged her for being human, including going to a party and being photographed with a beer in hand taken ages ago, because apparently celebrities cannot make mistakes.
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