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11:27 am - 10/17/2012

Russian anti-gay activists send Madonna official summons



Antigay Russian activists have obtained Madonna’s home address in New York City and sent her a summons to show up at a Russian court. Nine plaintiffs are desperate to make "Madge" pay after suffering “moral damages” at her gig in St. Petersburg.

­Another summons was issued to the address of Madonna’s gym Hard Candy in central Moscow. However, gym staff insist they have not received any letter from St. Petersburg, and thus can’t inform their Big Boss.

The pro-Kremlin group Trade Union of Russian Citizens wants the Material Girl in court for blasphemy and for damaging the cultural foundations of St. Petersburg. Nine activists filed a suit against the pop star after her concert on August 9. They are seeking 333 million rubles (around US$10 million) from Madonna and from the company that organized her show.

All the fuss is because of Madonna’s actions on the stage. The pop diva started her show asking fans to raise their hands with pink bracelets, which they were given on the entrance, in support of homosexual rights.

It is, however, illegal to promote homosexuality in St. Petersburg.
The local law, which bans so-called “propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexualism and transgenderism, and pedophilia to minors,” was passed in March this year.



Activists claim the pop star broke this law. Moreover, they say children as young as 12 were at the concert, prompting the question, why were they there?

The complaint also includes a video taken of the concert that depicts Madonna allegedly stomping on an Orthodox cross.

“She insulted believers’ feelings, she promoted homosexuality when there were children at the concert and this is forbidden in St Petersburg. We, the residents of the cultural capital, suffered a colossal moral damage,” union spokesperson Darya Dedova was quoted as saying.

However, Madonna has not still responded to any of the complaints, nor did she appear in court.

The first hearing into the $10 million lawsuit took place on October 11, but it was postponed until October 25. Plaintiffs did not know Madonna’s address in the US and thus were unable to notify the pop star.

At the same time, there are some details which may weaken the activist’ position in court.

First, all tickets contained a recommendation saying that only over-18s should attend the concert. In such a case, parents of minors are responsible for allowing them to be there and seeing what they saw.

Second, there is video evidence which, however, was shot without any official permission, itself a violation.

According to a recently-adopted St Petersburg law, if the defendant is found guilty she will have to pay an additional 50 per cent of the ordered compensation as a fine that will go to the city budget, Dedova said. The union promised to use the money to protect city residents from homosexuality and pedophilia.

This law, which is only in force in St. Petersburg, caused a string of protests from Russian and international gay rights organizations, with one Russian activist even suing its author over damage to his reputation.



A gay rights activist speaks with a police officer as she holds a poster reading " I don't care about Madonna and her support!" near a concert hall before the concert of Madonna in St. Petersburg on August 9, 2012.



A local activist Yury Gavrikov holds a poster near a concert hall before the concert of Madonna in St. Petersburg on August 9, 2012

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koutaishi 17th-Oct-2012 03:44 pm (UTC)
fuq madonna and fuq anti-gay people
retromaury 17th-Oct-2012 03:50 pm (UTC)
...but she was openly protesting anti gay laws in Russia don't be stupid... But look who's in your icon I wouldn't expect you to be bright
chikntetrazzini 17th-Oct-2012 04:25 pm (UTC)
Right, because all Britney fans are stupid.
give_mespace 17th-Oct-2012 04:32 pm (UTC)
you can support gay rights and not listen to madonna's music. personally i loath madonna
chandyland11 17th-Oct-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
For someone who is calling a stranger on the internet stupid and not bright, you have horrific grammar skills.
cluelessraf 17th-Oct-2012 04:06 pm (UTC)
This comment makes no sense.
crazyfirecrotch 17th-Oct-2012 03:45 pm (UTC)
chandyland11 17th-Oct-2012 03:46 pm (UTC)
asteriatic 17th-Oct-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
It would be laughable if urban Russia weren't such a horrible place for anyone who isn't white/straight to live...ugh
quizblorg 17th-Oct-2012 04:14 pm (UTC)
Does this mean rural Russia is a better place for minorities? That seems rather counterintuitive.
asteriatic 17th-Oct-2012 04:25 pm (UTC)
Rural Russia is pretty hostile, too, but it doesn't have the same massive gangs of roving skinheads
maryhurt 17th-Oct-2012 03:47 pm (UTC)
The local law, which bans so-called "propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexualism and transgenderism, and pedophilia to minors," was passed in March this year

jfc :(

except for the pedophilia thing ofc
chandyland11 17th-Oct-2012 03:49 pm (UTC)
WHAT THE FUCK @ comparing pedophilia to homosexuality, CAN YOU FUCKING NOT.
starzangelus 17th-Oct-2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
My uncle compares homosexuality to bestiality. People are so fucking stupid.
expromqueen 17th-Oct-2012 04:03 pm (UTC)
it's rly fucked up that ppl still think it's appropriate to lump pedophilia in w/ the others (even in the u.s. ppl still do that) :/ straight up propaganda!
distant_lines 17th-Oct-2012 03:48 pm (UTC)
If they had such issues with homosexuality what the hell were they doing at a Madonna concert?
xtinkerbellax 17th-Oct-2012 03:48 pm (UTC)
Madonna has been around for decades, how do you not know what she's like or what her shows will be like? t's like personal responsibility is lost on some people.
mila_s_garden 17th-Oct-2012 05:15 pm (UTC)
I agree, it seems like an excuse just to make some money
cuzilubb 17th-Oct-2012 03:58 pm (UTC)
Anti-gay? In Europe? Now I've seen it all.
iamunchien 17th-Oct-2012 04:29 pm (UTC)
I can't tell if you're serious or not...
sky3205 17th-Oct-2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
same
evridis 17th-Oct-2012 06:44 pm (UTC)
...
infinitycluster 17th-Oct-2012 04:04 pm (UTC)
I've gotten along with every Russian person I've met before. I actually considered visiting there or possibly teaching English. I'm sad to learn there are organized groups like this there. You'd think I'd be used to this shit by now, being from NC.
sugarbobbin 17th-Oct-2012 05:42 pm (UTC)
Go. You'll love it. People are super friendly and they'll love you for trying to assimilate. They think Americans demonize them with the Cold War (there is still a lot of strong feelings about that) so they try hard to change a perspective they think we have. I don't know how to explain it. :/

I would suggest going to smaller city like Nizhy Novogorod, Ekaterinaburg, or even going to a more rural area. Rural towns are awesome, but much more influenced by communism.

The only thing that sucks is Internet is pretty non-existent. I'm talking 12.6 bit if you're lucky enough to can get it.

I really wouldn't be too concerned about skinheads unless you're not white. Then...probably don't go. There are too many cases of people missing. However, I a knew an African-American getting his PhD there and he loves it, but I'm sure he has his moments of frustration.
infinitycluster 17th-Oct-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you that was very helpful :) I really would love a chance to see that country. My family is descended from near that area, and every Russian person I have met has been very friendly and appreciated my interest in their culture. Maybe they were happy to meet an American did not give a damn about the old biases from the cold war. As far as I am concerned, people need to be friendly and interested in each other or the whole world will go to shit. Did you spend some time there?
vandring 17th-Oct-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
I'm studying in St. Petersburg and I love it. I was expecting everyone to be super bitter and unfriendly but it's honestly the complete opposite.

As to treatment of minorities, racism and homophobia are obviously existent. There is actually a small, but vibrant gay scene in Petersburg and quite a few people on my program are gay. Russia, I've noticed, tends to be on a don't ask don't tell policy when it comes to homosexuality, meaning that despite all other signs, they'll assume everyone is completely straight until proven otherwise.

Granted, people's attitudes toward race and ethnic minorities are, in general, quite unfortunate, but then again it's not like racism doesn't also exist in America. However, most of the racism that exists is targeted toward people of the caucauses. as to whether it's actually dangerous, i would say that while there is the occasional horror story, you'll find that most russians are actually afraid to fuck with poc.
lakomka87 17th-Oct-2012 10:46 pm (UTC)
it's Ekaterinburg, not Ekaterinaburg! and Ekaterinburg and Nizhny Novgorod are 4th and 5th biggest cities in Russia, so they're def not 'smaller' ones. also, the information you gave about the lack of internet would probably have been relevant about 10 years ago.

Edited at 2012-10-17 10:48 pm (UTC)
jmfunnyface 18th-Oct-2012 12:04 am (UTC)
You're flat out wrong about the internet issue. I go there every summer & I use my iphone there. The vast majority of cafe/restaurant have free wifi.
immaflirt 17th-Oct-2012 04:04 pm (UTC)
What a stupid law.. God it's 2012 people.
cluelessraf 17th-Oct-2012 04:05 pm (UTC)
I need a Girl Gone Wild video gif with all those fabulous gays in heels with a quote, "hey hey hey.. don't curr"
saikaro_x 17th-Oct-2012 04:06 pm (UTC)
It is, however, illegal to promote homosexuality in St. Petersburg. The local law, which bans so-called “propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexualism and transgenderism, and pedophilia to minors,” was passed in March this year.


so fucked
homicidalslayer 17th-Oct-2012 04:08 pm (UTC)
The existence of the law is a travesty.


However -and do NOT take this as some sort of declaration that I'm on the activists' side, because I'm not- if Madonna really did stomp on an Orthodox Cross, she should not just get away with that. I don't care how much a person disagrees with a church's views, religious intolerance is still intolerance.

The St. Petersburg law is still fucked up, though.

Edited at 2012-10-17 04:08 pm (UTC)
quizblorg 17th-Oct-2012 04:19 pm (UTC)
"religious intolerance is still intolerance"

Relious tolerance does not include the obligation to pay respect to religious symbols.

As long as Madonna doesn't force other people to stomp on crosses, she can do whatever she wants with them.

homicidalslayer 17th-Oct-2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
We're clearly running on different conceptions of what constitutes "tolerance." Defiling religious symbology is not a tolerant method of expressing a detracting opinion.
chikntetrazzini 17th-Oct-2012 04:27 pm (UTC)
Religiious intolerance does not include disrespecting a religion, sry2say. Religious intolerance is, for example, attempting to exterminate an entire race of people based on their religion.
lieueitak 17th-Oct-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
It took 2 weeks for them to add the cross-trampling bit to their lawsuit. If you watch the video of her giving her speech about tolerance, it doesn't look like there are any crosses near her. The only time I recall her stepping on a cross is during "Gang Bang" where she uses a cross (and not Orthodox) to lift herself up to a part of her stage. Given that she's murdering people in that song though, it's not really a how-to-live-your-life segment.

Basically these people sued because the maximum fine for breaking this law is only a couple hundred dollars, and now they're trying to justify asking for more money.
tigersnap 17th-Oct-2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
So should she have been punished for her Papa Don't Preach video where she burned crosses? It's called freedom of expression.
crazyfruitlady 17th-Oct-2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
Stamping on a cross is not religion intolerance. At worse it's desecration of religious symbols, which should only matter if you belong to that religion.
dothefrug 17th-Oct-2012 05:41 pm (UTC)
I sort of see what you're trying to say, though I don't entirely agree. She was a guest in a place where religion is very deep-rooted (a lot more than in the U.S.) and deliberately insulted people in their home. I wouldn't call it religious intolerance, but I wouldn't call it admirable either.

What is offensive to me (as a very non-religious person) is that she did it more for attention than for the sake of her beliefs or to take a stance against the church. I kind of feel like she is exploiting the whole subject just so she can get some publicity. People praise her a lot for being able to get attention, but she usually goes about it in such a cheap way. Like, no shit, you're going to get attention if you go a place full of religious people and do something they consider blasphemous. Congratulations?
diamond_dust06 17th-Oct-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
What should be the punishment for disrespecting a religious symbol?
shiiblee 17th-Oct-2012 09:53 pm (UTC)
Heh, I wish more people disrespected religious symbols so openly like Madonna. Religion deserves to be mocked, every day, every month, all fucking year long. And if people take offense (oh the horror) or find it be "religious intolerance"(which is bullshit) well tough luck, grow the fuck up.

Edited at 2012-10-17 10:01 pm (UTC)
yummyhead2toe 17th-Oct-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
lieueitak 17th-Oct-2012 04:11 pm (UTC)
She ignored threats of arrest, fines, and violence. She ignored the lawsuits when it was first brought to court. But I'm sure she'll give plenty of fucks about this summons.
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