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John Lennon's Letters: Beatle Was Quite The Curmudgeon

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John Lennon may have penned peace-loving classics like "Imagine," but he wasn't always the conciliatory type.

In a number of letters excerpted by Vulture from the forthcoming book The John Lennon Letters, the late Beatle rails against critics of Yoko Ono and even lambasts Paul and Linda McCartney. The full letters -- available in scans on Vulture -- are definitely worth a look, but here are five things Lennon actually wrote:

1. To a Lennon fan who disparaged Ono: "Yoko's been an artist before you were even a groupie."

2. To a critic who didn't like Ono's show: "I'd forgotten about people like you! Well, well -- you still exist, of course, in small towns across the world..."

3. To Linda and Paul McCartney: "I was reading your letter and wondering what middle aged cranky Beatle fan wrote it. I resisted looking at the last page to find out -- I kept thinking who is it … What the hell -- it's Linda!"

4. To Linda and Paul, continued: "I'm not ashamed of the Beatles -- we did start it all --but of some of the shit we took to make them so big -- I thought we all felt that way in varying degrees -- obviously not."

5. To George Martin, a producer: "Of course, George Martin was a great help in translating our music technically when we needed it, but for the cameraman to take credit from the director is a bit much."

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hellomeru 9th-Oct-2012 12:06 am (UTC)
this flop
one_hoopy_frood 9th-Oct-2012 12:08 am (UTC)
Fuck him.
andres01234 9th-Oct-2012 12:09 am (UTC)
He was an asshole, what else is new?
thetxbelle 9th-Oct-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
John Lennon was an overrated asshole imo.
winter_lace 9th-Oct-2012 12:10 am (UTC)
I can't tell if these are the words of a bitter man or a sassy man
thetxbelle 9th-Oct-2012 12:12 am (UTC)
a bitter abusive asshole
zemi_chan 9th-Oct-2012 12:14 am (UTC)
Abusive? (Pardon my ignorance.)
ch33rylips 9th-Oct-2012 12:13 am (UTC)
He wasn't sassy he was just an asshole.
thetxbelle 9th-Oct-2012 12:42 am (UTC)
Was going to reply with the reason but apparently other people did lol. I don't think it's that well known how he treated women but people on ONTD are apparently really aware
ch33rylips 9th-Oct-2012 12:12 am (UTC)


John was a fucking asshole brand new information.
thetxbelle 9th-Oct-2012 12:13 am (UTC)
LOL at all of us just calling him an ass, no one is saying anything nice about him
rhapsodeeinblue 9th-Oct-2012 12:31 am (UTC)
lol I'm going through the comments now and cracking up. It's glorious.
ishumy 9th-Oct-2012 12:14 am (UTC)
I feel like this is the post ONTD needed to vent about what an asshole he was. Finally
kukamine 9th-Oct-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
least favorite beatle
cerseilannister 9th-Oct-2012 12:20 am (UTC)
same
rhapsodeeinblue 9th-Oct-2012 12:31 am (UTC)
yeah
argyle_strikes 9th-Oct-2012 12:56 am (UTC)
yup
lolzerz 9th-Oct-2012 01:13 am (UTC)
totally. even though the world disagrees
miss_real 9th-Oct-2012 01:33 pm (UTC)
Ikr? I wish the world was like ONTD on this matter, I hate how people applaud him irl like he's this perfect flawless genious guy :/
time_ambassador 9th-Oct-2012 01:46 am (UTC)
agreed.

ringo
george
paul
john
pipsdixiechick 9th-Oct-2012 06:58 am (UTC)
THIS!
steph313 9th-Oct-2012 12:17 am (UTC)
Paul/Jane OTP.

That chick is classy as fuck. Still no good tell-all interviews or books written. And she's got stories!
lucifersam 9th-Oct-2012 12:25 am (UTC)
I'm super disappointed at pattie boyd's book. she held back imo. it makes sense I guess, but still.

Edited at 2012-10-09 12:25 am (UTC)
littlehayzay 9th-Oct-2012 12:15 am (UTC)
What an asshole.
steph313 9th-Oct-2012 12:16 am (UTC)
Sigh, I have to separate the artist and man when it comes to him. The dude had serious mental problems and some fucked up shit happen to him throughout his life to exacerbate those issues, and he never got the help he needed.
cerseilannister 9th-Oct-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
wut is this news. he was always an asshole. it is known.
maebytonight 9th-Oct-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
So glad to see all the Lennon hate.

There was a post back when The Beatles catalogue was new to iTunes and I said that as much as I stan for the Beatles, I fucking hate John Lennon and someone jumped on my back about how Lennon was a ~tortured artist~ and ~misunderstood~
maebytonight 9th-Oct-2012 01:45 am (UTC)
Was that the 1D post? The Beatles fanatic was cracking me up. I'm not a fan of 1D but they are very similar to the Beatles when you consider each band's first years.
time_ambassador 9th-Oct-2012 02:05 am (UTC)
lbr though he was a complex man. lots of early childhood emotional trauma, and the violent death of his mom had lasting effects and probably haunted him until his own death.

that doesn't excuse him being an abusive dickhole, and i certainly am no fan of his.
toilandblood 9th-Oct-2012 02:55 am (UTC)
jesus, i was never excusing his abusive behavior. I love his music and I think he had a lot of redeeming qualities but I wasn't denying that he had a dark side. He had an incredibly traumatic childhood and there's no way we can know who he really was. Of course he wasn't the hippie icon who preached "give peace a chance", he could be incredibly malicious and hypocritical. That said, he did express remorse for the way he treated women and did state regret over emotionally neglecting Julian. I can't defend the bad things he did, but he certainly wasn't "satan" or the "devil". holy fuck.
mushroom18 9th-Oct-2012 02:05 am (UTC)
I'm a big fan of the Beatles too, but John had serious issues. I admire him as an artist, but he's an asshole. Good thing about Yoko was that she was the one in power in the relationship, I think, and he stopped being too physically aggressive.
kriziasupernova 9th-Oct-2012 07:15 am (UTC)
I'm a big fan of The Beatles, but lol I never really liked him as a person. I liked George and Ringo way more.

His songs are really good though, so I still listen to them.
noxonesxlooking 9th-Oct-2012 12:24 am (UTC)
My mom met him and yoko ono in the late 70s and they talked for about 10 minutes. She said he was really rude to yoko and it made my mom feel super awkward haha
noonewears 9th-Oct-2012 03:27 am (UTC)
People love to act like Yoko and John were the Romeo and Juliet of the 70s but from what I have read John treated Yoko like shit and was emotionally abusive and controlling.
noxonesxlooking 9th-Oct-2012 04:03 am (UTC)
Yeah he was pretty horrible to her. My mom was/is a massive beatles fan but she never really liked john..despite the fact he was awesome to his fans
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